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eccentric

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PostPosted: Fri 29 Dec 2017, 15:19    Post subject: key board help
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Thank you Billtoo for your prompt help.
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PostPosted: Mon 01 Jan 2018, 14:00    Post subject: Other Distros  

I did a full install to the 1st hard drive of my Compaq desktop pc:

System: Host: mx1 Kernel: 4.13.0-1-686-pae i686 bits: 32 gcc: 6.3.0
Desktop: Xfce 4.12.3 (Gtk 2.24.31) dm: lightdm Distro: MX-17_386 Horizon December 15, 2017
Machine: Device: desktop System: Compaq Presario 061 product: DQ182A-ABA S6700NX NA410 v: 0nB1411RE101COBRA10 serial: N/A
Mobo: ASUSTeK model: Cobra v: 1.xx serial: N/A BIOS: American Megatrends v: 3.28 date: 08/27/2004
Battery hidpp__0: charge: N/A condition: NA/NA Wh volts: NA
model: Logitech Wireless Mouse M215 2nd Gen serial: 401b-d0-dc-56-59 status: Discharging
CPU: Single core Intel Pentium 4 (-MT-) arch: Netburst Prescott rev.3 cache: 1024 KB
flags: (pae sse sse2 sse3) bmips: 5600
clock speeds: max: 2800 MHz 1: 2800 MHz 2: 2800 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] RV530 [Radeon X1600 PRO] bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:71c2
Display Server: x11 (X.Org 1.19.2 ) drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
Resolution: 1920x1080@60.00hz
OpenGL: renderer: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV530 version: 2.1 Mesa 13.0.6 Direct Render: Yes
Audio: Card Creative Labs CA0106/CA0111 [SB Live!/Audigy/X-Fi Series]
driver: snd_ca0106 port: bc00 bus-ID: 02:0a.0 chip-ID: 1102:0007
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.13.0-1-686-pae
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL-8100/8101L/8139 PCI Fast Ethernet Adapter
driver: 8139too v: 0.9.28 port: b000 bus-ID: 02:0f.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8139
IF: eth0 state: down mac: 00:0e:a6:79:5d:e4
Card-2: D-Link System AirPlus G DWL-G122 Wireless Adapter(rev.C1) [Ralink RT2571W]
driver: rt73usb v: 2.3.0 usb-ID: 001-003 chip-ID: 07d1:3c03
IF: wlan0 state: N/A mac: N/A
Drives: HDD Total Size: 320.1GB (2.6% used)
ID-1: /dev/sdb model: WDC_WD1600BB size: 160.0GB serial: WD-WMAL92648553
ID-2: /dev/sda model: ST3160021A size: 160.0GB serial: 3JS2YSBK
Partition: ID-1: / size: 144G used: 5.6G (5%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
ID-2: swap-1 size: 2.15GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sda2
ID-3: swap-2 size: 0.27GB used: 0.00GB (0%) fs: swap dev: /dev/sdb2
Sensors: None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Weather: Conditions: 0 F (-18 C) - light showers snow Wind: From the East at 6 MPH Humidity: 66%
Pressure: 30.36 in (1028 mb) Time: January 1, 12:40 PM EST (America/Toronto)
Info: Processes: 183 Uptime: 44 min Memory: 308.2/2273.2MB
Init: SysVinit v: 2.88 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Gcc sys: 6.3.0
Client: Shell (bash 4.4.121 running in xfce4-terminal) inxi: 2.3.53

I installed a few extra applications with synaptic, it's working well, about the same as Dpup Stretch 7.5
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PostPosted: Tue 02 Jan 2018, 15:33    Post subject:  

I know I've commented before on the smart-alecky and sarcastic error messages Salix sometimes throws up when you do something wrong, but today I saw one which truly took the biscuit. This was an actual message I got when trying to type in a password on an XFce terminal so that I could mount a USB drive;

"Your mind just hasn't been the same since the electro-shock, has it?"

I must admit I laughed, but I can well imagine that some people with a psychiatric history which involved highly invasive treatments like that one would be highly offended by that remark.

I'll continue to use Salix because for my money it's one of the best looking of all the Linux distros I've seen recently and it's stable and reliable, but it's my view that the devs of that distro presume heavily upon their users' tolerance.

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PostPosted: Mon 08 Jan 2018, 05:47    Post subject: A big Puppy Challenger --->AntiX-17 Frugal Persistence  

Hi all,

Going to use two posts here (given the murga 'number of pics' posting limit in one msg) to show you AntiX-17. It is so easy to install 'fully', or if you're like me and love 'frugal' installs, it is even easier to install it 'frugally'. In fact, Puppy has no longer anything on either AntiX and/or MX-Linux concerning frugal installs. But even better is the wealth of programs that come with AntiX/MX-Linux compared to pups, and the ease of use in choices, installing, etc. All I can say overall is this: do you love ease of use, a great Control Center app (pics provided, with an eample of "Popular Packages", yet you still have Synaptic & apt-get at your fingertips too). Have you ever wanted to run your apps in the secure, lockdown Firejail? And do this with the ease of one-click setup of any app? Do you want ease of one browser opened in Firejail and another not? (this is awesome!) Do you love combos of JWM-Rox-IceWM for your DE environment, all at one click setup (again, check the pics Wink )? How about gorgeous Themes? So many themes (63 currently) & customization options that it will leave you with a smile as you one-click choices (in pic, I've chosen an AntiX pumpkin, absolutely love it). How aboutsimple and clear remastering, with popup info boxes explaining every single thing (again, unlike any pup I know, which leaves you guessing most of the time).

Overall, I cannot urge you enough to give antiX a spin with 'frugal' persistence set up (or even full install if you want). If you go the 'frugal' route, you'll be amazed that inside the Control Center, all 'frugal' and 'persistence' choices are there to set up the very first time you run the ISO. You just click your choices! I mean, holy crap, it is fantastic. There's no muss and no fuss, Additionally, you can set up just a "home" directory persistence while leaving root untouchable. This is something no Pup is even approaching right now.

Imho, AntiX-17 is the best thing going in the Linux universe at the moment. I've tested it across my laptops, AMD and Intel, across very old and not so old machines, and it just runs with aplomb and verve, and the family loves it. Hope you enjoy the pics. :
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Jan 2018, 05:49    Post subject: antiX-17 continued  

...the rest of the pics Wink ....
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Jan 2018, 06:34    Post subject:  

And no Systemd.......if it matters......
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PostPosted: Mon 08 Jan 2018, 16:03    Post subject:  

backi wrote:
And no Systemd.......if it matters......


I think it's good to have the choice. I've recently done a distro-upgrade on MX-16, which is based on AntiX, and it's working really well.

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PostPosted: Fri 12 Jan 2018, 08:11    Post subject:  

backi wrote:
And no Systemd.......if it matters......
I think you are wrong. This release is based on MX Linux, which does have systemd - lots of it. Just like Debian - its parent distro. There's a difference, hoever: MX uses sysvinit as its init process and Debian uses systemd. But you can easily switch between the two.
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Jan 2018, 09:07    Post subject:  

anikin wrote:
backi wrote:
And no Systemd.......if it matters......
I think you are wrong. This release is based on MX Linux, which does have systemd - lots of it. Just like Debian - its parent distro. There's a difference, hoever: MX uses sysvinit as its init process and Debian uses systemd. But you can easily switch between the two.


backi is right and you are the one who is wrong. antiX does not have systemd, libystemd nor any shims.
Look at the package list from here if you want to check.

https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=antix&pkglist=true&version=17#pkglist

Also you have it back to front. MX is based off antiX!
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Jan 2018, 09:41    Post subject:  

anticapitalista wrote:
anikin wrote:
backi wrote:
And no Systemd.......if it matters......
I think you are wrong. This release is based on MX Linux, which does have systemd - lots of it. Just like Debian - its parent distro. There's a difference, hoever: MX uses sysvinit as its init process and Debian uses systemd. But you can easily switch between the two.


backi is right and you are the one who is wrong. antiX does not have systemd, libystemd nor any shims.
Look at the package list from here if you want to check.

https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=antix&pkglist=true&version=17#pkglist

Also you have it back to front. MX is based off antiX!

My knowledge was based on MX, which did have systemd and I have never been a fan of antix:
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MX Linux ships with systemd present but disabled by default. The MX Linux team strongly urges users to remain with this configuration which uses sysvinit instead. This page simply provides information for those interested in the question.
https://mxlinux.org/wiki/system/systemd
... Now that MX is married to antix, you must have purged systemd. Congratulations! ... and no need to get hysterical.
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PostPosted: Fri 12 Jan 2018, 10:51    Post subject:  

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jan 2018, 09:21    Post subject:  

Based on the good things said about AntiX here, I gave it a whirl. It looks great but there's a deal breaker: it won't adjust to a comfortable resolution for me. I use an hdmi cable into my Sony Bravia TV. Puppy automatically adjusts everything to a comfortable size on my resolution of choice, AntiX wouldn't. Everything is microscopically small or stretched off the screen Sad

Is MX worth a go or will it likely be the same outcome?
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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jan 2018, 18:05    Post subject:  

I've just installed the beta of Absolute 15, which is based on Slackware although it has IceWM as its standard manager. It's working well and although it doesn't have the full complement of software it ised to have you can easily install extras such as Midnight Commander from the slack files using installpkg.

I feel it's not for people who want to be "wowed" with a vibrant colour scheme and artwork though; the themes which are provided are all very understated and, with the possible exception of the Earth-from-space shot on the Linux World wallpaper, I don't think the wallpapers supplied are up to much.

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PostPosted: Sun 14 Jan 2018, 18:14    Post subject:  

redandwhitestripes wrote:
Based on the good things said about AntiX here, I gave it a whirl. It looks great but there's a deal breaker: it won't adjust to a comfortable resolution for me. I use an hdmi cable into my Sony Bravia TV. Puppy automatically adjusts everything to a comfortable size on my resolution of choice, AntiX wouldn't. Everything is microscopically small or stretched off the screen Sad

Is MX worth a go or will it likely be the same outcome?


Dedoimedo's just given MX-17 a very positive review on his blog;

https://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/mx-17.html

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PostPosted: Mon 15 Jan 2018, 17:50    Post subject: OpenBSD --current checksum errors  

Just updated openbsd 6.2 --current for the new Intel firmware security patches and after trying several of the mirrors I got the same checksum mismatch errors for a number of the .tgz's. Suspect that will wash in a day or two's time.
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