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Re: Pale Moon 27.7.0 available
Pale Moon version 27.7.0 is available. This is a major update with bugfixes, enhancements and security/privacy changes. The release notes are at http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml
Instructions for getting the mainstream release are at http://linux.palemoon.org/
The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/ Since the SSE build is not the mainline build it has to be installed manually as per instructions in the first post of thread https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530
Instructions for getting the mainstream release are at http://linux.palemoon.org/
The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/ Since the SSE build is not the mainline build it has to be installed manually as per instructions in the first post of thread https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530
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Re: Palemoon only 360p
After some experimenting, I think I've found the "magic incantation" for multiple resolutions on Youtube in 27.7.0 SSE in Lupu...sindi wrote:Total cpu usage for 360p is just about 100%, which makes for jerky video.
240p would fix things.
Tools ==> Preferences ==> Content
In the bottom left corner is "Video" setup...
- Checkmark "Enable Media Source Extensions (MSE)"
- DO NOT checkmark "Use MSE asynchronously"
- Checkmark "Enable MSE for MP4 video"
- Checkmark "Enable MSE for WebM video"
EDIT: These settings may cause problems for other web sites. You may be better off creating a separate "youtube" profile, and making these changes in only the "youtube" profile, and leaving other profiles at the default settings.
Last edited by Walter Dnes on Wed 17 Jan 2018, 18:31, edited 1 time in total.
There is also this from YouTube help.
This is for Firefox, but they say this applies to any browser.1) If you are logged in to your Youtube account, first sign off!
2) Go to Firefox settings and show all your cookies
3) Search for entries "youtube"
4) Here delete all entries for "youtube.com" (but leave "accounts.youtube.com" entries if you use an Youtube account!)
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected
YaPI(any iso installer)
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Re: Pale Moon 27.7.1 available
Pale Moon version 27.7.1 is available. This is a small emergency update to Pale Moon 27.7.0 to address website breakages as a result of an incomplete addition of a new feature in JavaScript. The release notes are at http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml
Instructions for getting the mainstream release are at http://linux.palemoon.org/
The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/ Since the SSE build is not the mainline build it has to be installed manually as per instructions in the first post of thread https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530
Instructions for getting the mainstream release are at http://linux.palemoon.org/
The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/ Since the SSE build is not the mainline build it has to be installed manually as per instructions in the first post of thread https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530
Problem with Addons/Extensions
Hi All,
Maybe it's just me. But, if it's not, the folks at Palemoon appear to not know what their left hand is doing. Or perhaps they're stuck with a situation not their choosing.
I recently did a new install of a Puppy which had palemoon builtin. As part of my setup routine, I ran Palemoon's updater and successfully updated to version 27.1. I then tried to install addons. As you know, you have two choices: the few maintained by Palemoon, itself, and those "firefox" extensions available from firefox's repo.
Unfortunately, selecting firefox takes opens to firefox's repo for those addons for firefox quatro versions. (a) There are, as yet, few of those; but more importantly, Palemoon has not been built against/from firefox quatro. Firefox's extensions will not install.
The message I received is "This add-on requires a newer version of Firefox (at least version 42.0). You are using Firefox 27.9."
I think --untested-- for now it may be possible to install extensions before upgrading. Alternatively, also untested, it may be possible if you are working with a couple of Puppies, to copy your profile which includes extensions to a safe place for use with other instances of Palemoon.
Other suggestions, work-arounds, are invited.
mikesLr
Maybe it's just me. But, if it's not, the folks at Palemoon appear to not know what their left hand is doing. Or perhaps they're stuck with a situation not their choosing.
I recently did a new install of a Puppy which had palemoon builtin. As part of my setup routine, I ran Palemoon's updater and successfully updated to version 27.1. I then tried to install addons. As you know, you have two choices: the few maintained by Palemoon, itself, and those "firefox" extensions available from firefox's repo.
Unfortunately, selecting firefox takes opens to firefox's repo for those addons for firefox quatro versions. (a) There are, as yet, few of those; but more importantly, Palemoon has not been built against/from firefox quatro. Firefox's extensions will not install.
The message I received is "This add-on requires a newer version of Firefox (at least version 42.0). You are using Firefox 27.9."
I think --untested-- for now it may be possible to install extensions before upgrading. Alternatively, also untested, it may be possible if you are working with a couple of Puppies, to copy your profile which includes extensions to a safe place for use with other instances of Palemoon.
Other suggestions, work-arounds, are invited.
mikesLr
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Yes, Palemoon is based on Firefox 24ESR so addons for that version (or 24-28, I guess that's what it means by 27.9) will probably work best. A substantial amount of work has been done to get newer things in Firefox working on websites in Palemoon, though I doubt that includes addons, probably part of the "go blow yourself Australis/FF29" motto. Sometimes Palemoon has it's own version of addons too. I don't use many addons but you might find this site useful: https://addons.palemoon.org/incompatible/
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Long story... up until recently Firefox supported XUL extensions, so several Firefox extensions were compatible with Pale Moon, Firefox has now deprecated XUL in favour of WebExtensions. So current "Firefox-compatable" extensions will no longer run on Pale Moon. From the Pale Moon roadmap page https://www.palemoon.org/roadmap.shtml "Pale Moon is not Firefox, and will never be again."
Another issue ssems to be Firefox's version numbering and "user-agent-sniffing". Firefox seems to follow Chrome in boosting the version number by whole integers where a 0.1 boost would be more appropriate. That's why Firefox is at 58 and Pale Moon is at 27. A hack around user-agent-sniffing is to lie to the web site. E.g. in "about:config" set
general.useragent.override.addons.mozilla.org
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.9) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.9 (Pale Moon)
Given that Mozilla has deprecated XUL extensions (except for ESR) it may not be useful to look at Mozilla addons much longer.
Another issue ssems to be Firefox's version numbering and "user-agent-sniffing". Firefox seems to follow Chrome in boosting the version number by whole integers where a 0.1 boost would be more appropriate. That's why Firefox is at 58 and Pale Moon is at 27. A hack around user-agent-sniffing is to lie to the web site. E.g. in "about:config" set
general.useragent.override.addons.mozilla.org
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.9) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.9 (Pale Moon)
Given that Mozilla has deprecated XUL extensions (except for ESR) it may not be useful to look at Mozilla addons much longer.
I have only one extension, Easy Copy 2.7.0, which lets me copy for example forum link and title in one click. Simply useful.
It would be smart to save a copy of your favorite add-ons/extensions for later, many of them will simply disappear, as time goes by...
It would be smart to save a copy of your favorite add-ons/extensions for later, many of them will simply disappear, as time goes by...
True freedom is a live Puppy on a multisession CD/DVD.
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Re: Pale Moon 27.7.2 available
Pale Moon version 27.7.2 is available. This is a security and stability update to the browser. The release notes are at http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml
Instructions for getting the mainstream release are at http://linux.palemoon.org/
The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/ Since the SSE build is not the mainline build it has to be installed manually as per instructions in the first post of thread https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530
Instructions for getting the mainstream release are at http://linux.palemoon.org/
The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/ Since the SSE build is not the mainline build it has to be installed manually as per instructions in the first post of thread https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530
I just updated to 27.7.2SSE per the instructions: delete the old "palemoon" directory, then unpack the new 27.7.2 tarball. This worked fine except that the "new" browser still identifies itself in Help->About as 27.7.1SSE. Is this just a typo? EDIT: Sorry, false alarm. After a reboot, the browser identifies as 27.7.2SSE.
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OpenBSD have pulled Palemoon due to licensing issues https://www.reddit.com/r/openbsd/commen ... ts_due_to/
Moon Child does seem to be a apt choice of name
Moon Child does seem to be a apt choice of name
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A reboot should not be necessary. Linux does not really delete a file if a program is still accessing it. "ls -al" may not show it, but it's still there, taking up space. If you had a minimized window running during the update, that might explain things. To be sure you've shut down all instances and windows of Pale Moon, issue the command...6502coder wrote:I just updated to 27.7.2SSE per the instructions: delete the old "palemoon" directory, then unpack the new 27.7.2 tarball. This worked fine except that the "new" browser still identifies itself in Help->About as 27.7.1SSE. Is this just a typo? EDIT: Sorry, false alarm. After a reboot, the browser identifies as 27.7.2SSE.
Code: Select all
killall palemoon
New Moon 27.8 (for XP) also needs MSE adjusted
New Moon is the XP fork of Pale Moon. On a 2004 DELL Inspiron 600M (1.6GHz), with the usual dead USB ports and wifi slot, New Moon in XP, like Pale Moon in Wary or Lucid Puppy (or later Puppies on older laptops) only provides 360p resolution unless you change MSE settings (uncheck top of three listings under content, check bottom one).
The latest non-SSE Pale Moon does not work in Wary - something missing. Which is one reason Walter continues to compile the SSE version to support older libraries. Many thanks.
New Moon uses less CPU in XP than does Seamonkey 2.49 (which will be the last version to work in XP).,
In XP, with New Moon, at 1.6GHz, with Radeon 9000, 360p works well. 480p (auto in Seamonkey) works badly - goes over 100% CPU usage often. Slower CPU and/or GPU would need 240p. The 1.5GHz 600M was a bit jerky at 360p.
The latest non-SSE Pale Moon does not work in Wary - something missing. Which is one reason Walter continues to compile the SSE version to support older libraries. Many thanks.
New Moon uses less CPU in XP than does Seamonkey 2.49 (which will be the last version to work in XP).,
In XP, with New Moon, at 1.6GHz, with Radeon 9000, 360p works well. 480p (auto in Seamonkey) works badly - goes over 100% CPU usage often. Slower CPU and/or GPU would need 240p. The 1.5GHz 600M was a bit jerky at 360p.
palemoon language, hungarian Puppies
palemoon language, hungarian Puppies are delivered wit palemoon hungarian version, for people understanding English just change preferences by clicking as below.
Hungarian Artfulpup and artful-stretch HU : ok
addon language switcher
omni.ja : nothing to do with Japan, it's a .jar file (JRE Java)
Hungarian Artfulpup and artful-stretch HU : ok
addon language switcher
omni.ja : nothing to do with Japan, it's a .jar file (JRE Java)
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dttenergy outage map not working with latest Palemoon
http://dteenergy.com/map/outage.html
Map of SE Detroit power outages (21,000 customers) appears with Firefox 45 ESR (in Lupu kernel 2.6) but not with Palemoon - just says 'loading'.
Also when I entered a description of the problem it would not accept more than one line of text and I could not even backspace, though I could submit.
I checked and there was plenty of free memory.
Our very wet snow has been pulling power lines off poles.
Palemoon freezes up when using Dpup Stretch kernel 3.16 on a laptop with 1GB RAM and no swap file. No such problem with Wary 5.5. (Lupu cannot handle the video or something on here). The drive is too full to make a swap file. I have to kill Palemoon.
Walter, thank you for making my older laptops usable with Puppy Linux for browsing. Firefox uses too much memory on most of them (512MB total).
Map of SE Detroit power outages (21,000 customers) appears with Firefox 45 ESR (in Lupu kernel 2.6) but not with Palemoon - just says 'loading'.
Also when I entered a description of the problem it would not accept more than one line of text and I could not even backspace, though I could submit.
I checked and there was plenty of free memory.
Our very wet snow has been pulling power lines off poles.
Palemoon freezes up when using Dpup Stretch kernel 3.16 on a laptop with 1GB RAM and no swap file. No such problem with Wary 5.5. (Lupu cannot handle the video or something on here). The drive is too full to make a swap file. I have to kill Palemoon.
Walter, thank you for making my older laptops usable with Puppy Linux for browsing. Firefox uses too much memory on most of them (512MB total).
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Re: Pale Moon 27.8.0 available
Version 27.8.0 is available for downloading. Pale Moon has been updated to v27.8.0, a major development update with new and improved functionality and some bugfixes. The release notes are at http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml
Instructions for getting the mainstream release are at http://linux.palemoon.org/
The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/ Since the SSE build is not the mainline build it has to be installed manually as per instructions in the first post of thread https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530
Instructions for getting the mainstream release are at http://linux.palemoon.org/
The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/ Since the SSE build is not the mainline build it has to be installed manually as per instructions in the first post of thread https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530
new palemoon works with electrical outage map
DTE Energy outage map works with the latest Pale Moon.
I think I was allowing all javascript before but maybe not.
I think I was allowing all javascript before but maybe not.
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Re: Pale Moon 27.8.1 available
Version 27.8.1 is available for downloading. This is a small update to address some breaking issues introduced in the previous release. The release notes are at http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml
Instructions for getting the mainstream release are at http://linux.palemoon.org/
The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/ Since the SSE build is not the mainline build it has to be installed manually as per instructions in the first post of thread https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530
Instructions for getting the mainstream release are at http://linux.palemoon.org/
The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/ Since the SSE build is not the mainline build it has to be installed manually as per instructions in the first post of thread https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530