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Unable to boot on Asus UX51VZ [SOLVED]
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bigpup


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PostPosted: Tue 23 Jan 2018, 06:57    Post subject:  

If the above gets it working.

Installing the Nvidia driver and using it may get Optimus working.

The Linux kernel in Xenialpup, I think, is Optimus ready.

Really, not much has been done with Puppy, to get everything working for Nvidia Optimus graphics.

Someone with a laptop with this setup is going to have to do the testing and tweaking.

But, people with Optimus in their laptops do report Puppy works OK with the Intel graphics part of it.

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PostPosted: Tue 23 Jan 2018, 17:34    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
But, people with Optimus in their laptops do report Puppy works OK with the Intel graphics part of it.

I have such a machine and you are right bigpup. Puppy just uses the intel driver and the intel graphic card. I did not have to do anything for that, not in bios (Optimus is still on) and no boot parameter to add. It is possible that some Puppy chose modesetting/nouveau/nv at first, which worked also. I changed the driver to intel in xorg.conf (device section) or with xorgwizard. For Tahr I had to add
Code:
Option      "AccelMethod"  "uxa"
in the Device section of xorg.conf, otherwise I got some tearing.
When I run windows I suppose it runs in Optimus mode.
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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jan 2018, 04:32    Post subject:  

This from the Xenialpup thread:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331&start=633
Could it be KMS?
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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jan 2018, 07:19    Post subject:  

KMS
Why not try and see what happens.

foxpup,

Do we have a Nvidia Optimus Puppy support developer volunteer? Laughing Idea

Always use computers in a room that has no windows.
Well, unless you need a new window! Laughing

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PostPosted: Wed 24 Jan 2018, 11:17    Post subject:  

bigpup wrote:
foxpup,

Do we have a Nvidia Optimus Puppy support developer volunteer? Laughing Idea
When I find the time, I will try it. But my skills may not be enough. But then there is always this forum to help ... Smile
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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jan 2018, 03:25    Post subject:  

Hello all,

Sorry for the delay, I've been traveling.

- No luck with LxPup, same behavior, black screen or stuck on png splash screen

- No luck with placing the .sfs files on my hard drive and pointing to them in the grub.cfg

- I have no option concerning my graphic card in the bios, however the Asus UX51VZ indeed uses Optimus technology.

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jan 2018, 09:28    Post subject:  

U have separate vcard : NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 650M 2 GB GDDR5
May u need set console mode with simple boot parameters:

puppy nouveau.modeset=0 vga=776

You look the kernel loading line ? or when menu off, you get freeze?
Sometime BIOS settings get kernel panic and freeze , may enought if u set it to default ...

Note: I was Desktop pc and the default bios settings is make kernel panic i get it with vector problem ... i goes to bios and set anything , then after i set HT = Hyper treading to disable , and puppy was boot perfect without kernel panic Smile

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jan 2018, 10:31    Post subject:  

daviddem

Quote:
the Asus UX51VZ indeed uses Optimus technology.

So, it probably is using the Intel hardware to run the computer.

Did you try the i915.modeset=0 option added to the kernel line in the grub.cfg boot menu entry?

Are we having fun yet Laughing

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jan 2018, 10:54    Post subject:  

The SITE saying :
Quote:
...the notebook features a dedicated Nvidia GeForce GT 650M. Nvidia's Optimus technology switches between the two graphics options depending on requirements so power consumption and battery life are always optimized...

If optimus = power saving mode , may need acpi=off boot parameter...

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PostPosted: Tue 30 Jan 2018, 12:36    Post subject:  

The problem with Optimus is Puppy does not have the support for Optimus built in.
Puppy does not have the needed software.

So, Puppy just uses the Intel hardware.
The Nvidia hardware is not used.

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PostPosted: Sun 04 Feb 2018, 05:56    Post subject:  

I pretty much tried all combinations of kernel parameters at this point and always end up with the black screen... my last attempt was with:
Code:
linux /vmlinuz nomodeset pmedia=usbflash i915.modeset=0 nouveau.modeset=0 acpi=off pfix=nox


I am running SLacko on my old laptop now, and might end up opting for Antergos or Neon for my bootable USB on the UX51VZ.

Still interested in trying to make Puppy work on the UX51 though, if you have other suggestions.
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PostPosted: Sun 04 Feb 2018, 06:33    Post subject:  

Looking at it from the start.
Are you still making your usb stick according to the link in the first post? Maybe you do something wrong there.
You could try to do it with the command dd. Take the xenialpup64-7.5-uefi.iso and in console/terminal you do something like
Code:
# dd if=xenialpup64-7.5-uefi.iso of=/dev/sdc
where sdc is the usb to boot with. Not /dev/sdc1, but /dev/sdc without any number.
Try to boot that.
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PostPosted: Sun 04 Feb 2018, 13:49    Post subject:  

If this is still how the install on the usb was done.
http://blog.puppylinux.com/?viewDetailed=00009

Code:
linux /vmlinuz nomodeset pmedia=usbflash i915.modeset=0 nouveau.modeset=0 acpi=off pfix=nox

This will not work at all.

Try this:
In grub.cfg
Code:
linux /vmlinuz pmedia=usbflash i915.modeset=0
initrd /initrd.gz

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PostPosted: Mon 05 Feb 2018, 00:03    Post subject:  

I've been using the method of the first post (boots just fine on other machines).

I do have the initrd /initrd.gz line in grub.cfg, I only posted the kernel line to show the various kernel options I tried (some of them, all of them... always same result)

I have also tried burning the .iso with Rufus, including using the Rufus dd method. Boots fine on other machines but not the UX51.

Just tried also making the USB with the dd command:
Code:
# dd if=xenialpup64-7.5-uefi.iso of=/dev/sdb

Got the Grub menu but again black screen after that.

Also tried with these two kernel options only, no dice:
Code:
linux /vmlinuz pmedia=usbflash i915.modeset=0
initrd /initrd.gz


Is there any way to force the writing of a boot log file to the USB or hard drive to see where the boot process actually stalls?
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PostPosted: Mon 05 Feb 2018, 00:32    Post subject:  

Just to try it and see what happens.

At boot access the bios setup.
Just as it boots and before Grub boot loader takes over.
Usually press and hold F2 key will bring up bios setup.
Look for something about disable secure boot.
Disable secure boot.
See if that helps any.

Could have legacy boot enable as an option.
That should work also.

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