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Quirky Xerus 8.6 (Aug. 16), Beaver 8.7.1 (Sept. 21), 2018
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ab12

Joined: 11 Oct 2017
Posts: 6

PostPosted: Thu 12 Oct 2017, 05:48    Post subject: Frugal boot from sdb partition, using Grub4Dos  

Hi,

Has anybody else had this problem. When I boot xerus64-8.3.1 from a fresh boot it sticks on the line creating zram. However, when booted from a reboot from any other distro on the the thumb-drive, it boots flawlessly. I've tried several xerus64 installations, i.e full and frugal, but does the same thing every time.

Many thanks for any advice or solutions on the matter.
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Philh

Joined: 17 May 2006
Posts: 146
Location: England

PostPosted: Sun 15 Oct 2017, 08:36    Post subject:  

How did you install it.
What format is your partition you installed to.

my grub
title Quirky Xerus64 8.3 frugal in sdb1 dir xer648v3
uuid DA72-4947
kernel /xer648v3/vmlinuz rw
initrd /xer648v3/initrd.q

I dont know if you need rootwait added.
vmlinuz rootwait rw
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ab12

Joined: 11 Oct 2017
Posts: 6

PostPosted: Mon 16 Oct 2017, 06:09    Post subject:  

Thanks for your response Philh.

Standard installation from DVD iso image
Partition format ext2

Grub supplied by Xerus during installation, cut and paste into Grub4dos, two options supplied, used both:

title Quirky Xerus64 8.3 frugal in sdb7 dir xerus64-8.3
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /xerus64-8.3/initrd.q
kernel /xerus64-8.3/vmlinuz rootwait rw
initrd /xerus64-8.3/initrd.q

title Quirky Xerus64 8.3 frugal in sdb7 dir xerus64-8.3
uuid 15187091-8ec2-4191-9d71-3d1d63a285de
kernel /xerus64-8.3/vmlinuz rw
initrd /xerus64-8.3/initrd.q

Both of these setups will boot on reboot from another puppy.
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Philh

Joined: 17 May 2006
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Location: England

PostPosted: Mon 16 Oct 2017, 10:42    Post subject:  

If you look in /boot/initrd-tree you could check the install_specs match your installation.
Maybe copy the Q_ID to your xerus64-8.3 folder though it shouldnt need it.
Have you tried a different usb port.
My flash drive is fairly slow but it boots ok.
Maybe try adding qfix=fsck to the kernel line.
But apart from that I dont know.
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Leon

Joined: 22 Jun 2005
Posts: 254

PostPosted: Mon 16 Oct 2017, 18:29    Post subject: Re: Frugal boot from sdb partition, using Grub4Dos  

ab12 wrote:
When I boot xerus64-8.3.1 from a fresh boot it sticks on the line creating zram.

Similar problem appeared when I moved Quirky Xerus frugal installation to another partition.

1. Old location

Hard drive, sda3, vfat

grub4dos menu.lst | Boot succeed

title Quirky Xerus64 8.3, sda3, qx6483
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /qx6483/initrd.q
kernel /qx6483/vmlinuz rootwait rw
initrd /qx6483/initrd.q

2. New location

Hard drive, sda5, vfat

a) grub4dos menu.lst | Boot process stops at creating zram

title Quirky Xerus64 8.3, sda5, qx6483
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /qx6483/initrd.q
kernel /qx6483/vmlinuz rootwait rw
initrd /qx6483/initrd.q

b) grub4dos menu.lst | Boot succeed

title Quirky Xerus 8.3, sda5, 0EE6-55A0, qx6483
uuid 0EE6-55A0
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /qx6483/initrd.q
kernel /qx6483/vmlinuz install_specs=UUID=0EE6-55A0:vfat:qx6483
initrd /qx6483/initrd.q

Determining boot partition’s UUID
Code:
# blkid /dev/sda3
/dev/sda3: LABEL="Quirky" UUID="0EE6-55A0" TYPE="vfat"
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ab12

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PostPosted: Thu 19 Oct 2017, 03:08    Post subject:  

Thanks for your responses. Tried them all, but no luck!
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lp-dolittle

Joined: 25 Apr 2016
Posts: 60

PostPosted: Sat 16 Dec 2017, 17:25    Post subject: data loss while running quirky xerus 8.3 final
Subject description: unexpected reaction to choosing the save shutdown option
 

unsure whether this thread is still active, I would like to put up for discussion the following issue

Running Quirky Xerus 8.3 final (frugal installation on an ext4 formatted partition), I wanted to download the recent Xenialpup64-7.5-uefi.iso, as well as the Xenialpup32-7.5-uefi.iso. Confused by the fact that the download-manager unexpectedly disappeared while downloading, I repeatedly restarted the download of Xenialpup32-7.5-uefi.iso, and finally realised that several download processes had been interrupted or were running simultaneously. In order to avoid corrupted data transfer, I decided to stop downloading, deleted the notifications in the download manager protocol and shot down Quirky Xerus 8.3, choosing the 'save' option.
To my surprise, next booting resulted in the QuickSetup first-run screen! All previous settings had disappeared. The QuirkyXerus64-8,3 folder and its sub-folders were still present, but the PPM showed no more entries (all previously downloaded pets and all the related data were lost!).

Any suggestion? Can anybody explain this reaction? Which was the relevant faulty manipulation that caused the data loss? Is there an unrecognised security risk?

thank you for feedback
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Leon

Joined: 22 Jun 2005
Posts: 254

PostPosted: Sun 17 Dec 2017, 17:40    Post subject: Re: data loss while running quirky xerus 8.3 final
Subject description: unexpected reaction to choosing the save shutdown option
 

lp-dolittle wrote:
Any suggestion? Can anybody explain this reaction? Which was the relevant faulty manipulation that caused the data loss? Is there an unrecognised security risk?

At first I would:

1. Check the size of free memory
2. Check the size of free space on the download destination drive
3. Try to download by using different download manager or browser

From my experience, Quirky Xerus 8.3 is one of the most reliable systems that I ever use.

I really like the option not to save a session if anything goes wrong.
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lp-dolittle

Joined: 25 Apr 2016
Posts: 60

PostPosted: Mon 18 Dec 2017, 06:58    Post subject:  

Thank you, Leon, for your response.

My actual problem is/was not the download. There was enough space, everything ok. My question relates to the data loss. I cannot figure out which of my manipulations made the installed pets (inclusive the related data) disappear. I do not know how to evoke this effect if I wanted to do it intentionally.
What happened in the mentioned situation (cancelled download after deletion of the fully or partially downloaded new iso-files) when I shot down Quirky Xerus 8.3 using the save option? Why did my manipulations affect the PPM?

kind regards
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BarryK
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Joined: 09 May 2005
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Location: Perth, Western Australia

PostPosted: Thu 08 Feb 2018, 21:56    Post subject:  

Quirky Xerus x86_64 version 8.4 is out!

Blog announcement here:

http://bkhome.org/news/201802/quirky-xerus-x8664-version-84-released.html

Have fune!

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Billtoo


Joined: 07 Apr 2009
Posts: 3632
Location: Ontario Canada

PostPosted: Fri 09 Feb 2018, 03:51    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.4 for x86_64, released Feb. 9, 2018  

I installed to a 32gb SDHC card:

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Fri 9 Feb 2018 on Quirky Xerus64 8.4 Linux 4.14.17 x86_64
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation ION VGA (rev b1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: MCP79 Board - hornet-0 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.18.4
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (373x231 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: ION/integrated/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3.0 NVIDIA 340.106

Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU 330 @ 1.60GHz
Core 0: @1599 1: @1599 2: @1599 3: @1599 MHz

I needed to use NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-340.106.run --no-unified-memory to
get the proprietary driver to compile.

That's it so far,
Thanks.
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Leon

Joined: 22 Jun 2005
Posts: 254

PostPosted: Fri 09 Feb 2018, 19:52    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.4 for x86_64, released Feb. 9, 2018  

Hello Barry,

Congratulations and thank you very much for another Quirky.

I made a manual frugal install of Quirky 8.4 to USB flash drive by keeping a savefile from Quirky 8.3 and everything works perfectly.

Thank you for upgrading a kernel. Version 4.14.17 is patched against Meltdown vulnerability according to
https://github.com/speed47/spectre-meltdown-checker/blob/master/spectre-meltdown-checker.sh

For me Quirky 8.3 was “the lucky build” that I was searching for to replace my previous distro for everyday use, fast and rock solid Dpup Wheezy 3.5.2.8 created back in 2013 by forum member pemasu.

Every new release that I tried, that was created after Dpup Wheezy 3.5.2.8 and based on Woof-CE toolkit, had a bug that obviously became a feature and is a show stopper for my frugal installs on vfat and fat32 partitions.
The bug was described in 2015 by forum member “keyboard”.
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=96177&start=345&sid=4d0fba6e7baf3cf2561094a5a3645d8e

Quirky became a distro that we, old fans of manual frugal install was waiting for, because:

- Work at flash speed even on older computers.
- Saving session is optional.
- Having no worries about a savefile running out of space.
- Having just one single savefile with no need for additional sfs files.
- I can installed it and booted even from 1 GB Canyon USB flash drive made back in 2006, with enough additional free space for save data out of the savefile on one single vfat partition.
- Hard disk can be spinned down to minimize the power use and heat generated by the hard disk.
- It works from every computer I had a chance to install to, from more then 10 years old laptops to newer ones like Gigabyte BRIX Mini-PC.
- It is compatibile with Ubuntu Xerus Xenial Repositories and security updates with Long Term Support.

This distro is really a pleasure to use.
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ETP


Joined: 19 Oct 2010
Posts: 1117
Location: UK

PostPosted: Sat 10 Feb 2018, 12:44    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.4 for x86_64, released Feb. 9, 2018
Subject description: Initial test
 

Hi Barry,

Thanks for 8.4 which seems to improve upon 8.3 and is very responsive with a low memory footprint.
The 8GB image was installed to a 32GB USB3 stick using using 7-Zip and Win32diskimager in Win10.

In addition to the upgrades mentioned above by @Leon I have witnessed no ethernet connection
problems caused by the link detection & DHCP changes in earlier kernels.

A couple of minor issues that have been reported previously, do however persist:

1. An error is logged due to the now unneeded presence of <Include>/root/.jwm/jwmrc-personal</Include>

2. A possible issue for NVIDIA/nouveau users was the lack of Direct Rendering - i.e. hardware acceleration.
That was also evident in Chrome which I subsequently installed and was resolved using PKGget Package Manager
to install the MESA VDPAU acceleration drivers:
    mesa-vdpau-drivers_17.2.4|Mesa VDPAU video acceleration drivers
    libllvm5.0_5.0-3|Modular compiler and toolchain technologies runtime library

3. Volume level is not preserved across reboots and always defaults to zero. That is a pain if running an
automatic startup sound and/or an Internet connection alarm as I do.
The script /etc/init.d/aumix is strange in that the comments at lines 17 & 18 state that it does not work
with alsa but the body of the script seems to have disabled provision to do so.

As a temporary fix I placed the following simple script in /root/Startup to set a safe level of 55%
Code:

#!/bin/sh
# This is /root/Startup/aumixvolfix
# Fix to give some sound volume at boot time - ETP 9th Feb 2018
aumix -v55


Complete list of items so far installed & tested:
    flashplayer-28.0.0.161-x86_64|Adobe Flash Player browser plugin and Preferences
    ListDD-2.1|List dynamic dependencies
    GetLatest64bitChromeVersionWoofQ-MK2.5|Get Latest Chrome Version
    lockstate-1.5-x86_64_ETP|CapsLock, NumLock, ScrollLock tray indicator app
    google-chrome-stable_current_amd64|Access the Internet (Version 64.0.3282.140 (Official Build) (64-bit))
    adwaita-icon-theme_3.18.0|default icon theme of GNOME small subset
    humanity-icon-theme_0.6.10.1|Humanity Icon theme
    libgtk-3-bin_3.18.9|programs for the GTK+ graphical user interface library
    ubuntu-mono_14.04+16.04.20171116|Ubuntu Mono Icon theme
    adwaita-icon-theme-full_3.18.0|default icon theme of GNOME
    mesa-vdpau-drivers_17.2.4|Mesa VDPAU video acceleration drivers
    libllvm5.0_5.0-3|Modular compiler and toolchain technologies runtime library
    libimlib2_1.4.7|image loading rendering saving library
    wbar_2.3.4-5|light and fast launch bar
    wbar-config_2.3.4-5|GUI tool to configure wbar
    libguess1_1.2-1.1|high-speed character set detection library
    librubberband2v5_1.8.1|audio time-stretching and pitch-shifting library
    libsdl2-2.0-0_2.0.4+dfsg1|Simple DirectMedia Layer
    libsndio6.1_1.1.0-2|Small audio and MIDI framework from OpenBSD runtime libraries
    mpv_0.14.0|video player based on MPlayer/mplayer2
    PupShutdown-3.0|PupShutdown manager
    PupSnap-2.6_Scrot-0.8_64Bit|PupSnap screen capture (screenshot)
    Thunderbird64_release_channel-52.1.1|Thunderbird mail reader (Updated to 52.6.0)
    Firefox64_Quantum_Portable-etp|Firefox Web Browser (58.0.2)
    FbBox-5.0_64Bit|FbBox desktop environment
    startup_sound-mk3|Provides Startup sound(s) plus Internet connection alarm

Screenshot:

Please press F11 to toggle into full-screen then click on link;---

https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=11xQH_MpX-Renb1IX87wu0v1-IEoK1wWD

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Leon

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PostPosted: Sat 10 Feb 2018, 19:17    Post subject: Re: Quirky Xerus 8.4 for x86_64, released Feb. 9, 2018
Subject description: Initial test
 

ETP wrote:
3. Volume level is not preserved across reboots and always defaults to zero. That is a pain if running an
automatic startup sound and/or an Internet connection alarm as I do.

I made a patch that solves the problem for frugal install.

Script /usr/sbin/savesession, inserted line 46

Code:
[ -f /etc/asound.state ] && alsactl -f /etc/asound.state store && echo alsa saved && sync
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roadkill13

Joined: 10 Aug 2011
Posts: 149
Location: United States

PostPosted: Sat 10 Feb 2018, 22:14    Post subject:  

Full install:

Quote:
inxi -F
System: Host: QUIRKYPC31236 Kernel: 4.14.17 x86_64 (64 bit)
Desktop: JWM git-976 Distro: Quirky 8.4 xerus64
Machine: System: Hewlett-Packard (portable) product: HP Pavilion dv6 Notebook PC v: 0593110000204610000620100 serial: 2CE14809C9
Mobo: Hewlett-Packard model: 17FC v: 10.5A serial: PCKWF2B2E1T20O
Bios: Hewlett-Packard v: F.1A date: 06/22/2012
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i5-2430M (-HT-MCP-) cache: 3072 KB
clock speeds: max: 2401 MHz 1: 818 MHz 2: 850 MHz 3: 876 MHz
4: 801 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 80x24 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Audio: Card Intel 6 Series/C200 Series Family High Definition Audio Controller
driver: snd_hda_intel
Sound: Advanced Linux Sound Architecture v: k4.14.17
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller
driver: r8169
IF: eth0 state: down mac: 08:2e:5f:7d:89:81
Card-2: Intel Centrino Wireless-N 1030 [Rainbow Peak]
driver: iwlwifi
IF: wlan0 state: up mac: ac:72:89:f7:03:41
Drives: HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (0.9% used)
ID-1: /dev/sda model: ST9500325AS size: 500.1GB
Partition: ID-1: / size: 459G used: 4.1G (1%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1
RAID: No RAID devices: /proc/mdstat, md_mod kernel module present
Sensors: None detected - is lm-sensors installed and configured?
Info: Processes: 113 Uptime: 3:11 Memory: 116.4/3900.6MB
Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35


    Sound state not preserved across boots.
    Significant delay in drawing backgrounds and window content for numerous applications. (The windows themselves snap right open but are then blank for some time, Some apps open with window and background drawn but no content.
    This does not apply to all apps. For instance Iron browser snaps right open and speeds across the information highway effortlessly.)
    GUI freezes with any real hint of multitasking. This will occur most often when more than one window is created by an application during the completion of a specific task such as updating the package manager or setting up the network from first boot setup dialogue.
    Processes often complete in the background after a period of time and the GUI unfreezes and everything appears normal.
    Occasionally a hard reset is required when the GUI freezes.
    Although the Iron browser will run very effeciently it will also freeze the GUI during similar circumstances such as download dialogue at mediafire opening and prompting the download location window from the browser while slinging a pop under ad into the mix


These issues occur predictably and frequently.
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