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Quirky Xerus 8.6 (Aug. 16), Beaver 8.7.1 (Sept. 21), 2018
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Billtoo


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PostPosted: Sun 11 Feb 2018, 01:10    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.4 for x86_64, released Feb. 9, 2018  
I installed to a 64gb flash drive for use on my HP desktop:

System: Host: QUIRKYPC14445 Kernel: 4.14.17 x86_64 (64 bit) Desktop: JWM git-976 Distro: Quirky 8.4 xerus64
Machine: System: HP product: 260-p029 serial: CNV6240BWP
Mobo: HP model: 81B4 v: 01 serial: PFPSK0BWJ301LW Bios: AMI v: F.04 date: 05/10/2016
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i3-6100T (-HT-MCP-) speed/max: 1013/3101 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel Sky Lake Integrated Graphics
Display Server: X.org 1.18.4 drivers: intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa)
tty size: 171x46 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Card-2: Realtek RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter driver: rtl8723be
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1063.3GB (0.9% used)
Weather: Conditions: 23 F (-5 C) - light snow Time: February 10, 11:56 PM EST
Info: Processes: 113 Uptime: 13 min Memory: 134.0/3879.8MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.2.35

I installed some applications with PPM.
It's working well so far,
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BarryK
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PostPosted: Sun 11 Feb 2018, 18:30    Post subject: Re: Quirky Xerus 8.4 for x86_64, released Feb. 9, 2018
Subject description: Initial test		  
ETP wrote:

3. Volume level is not preserved across reboots and always defaults to zero. That is a pain if running an
automatic startup sound and/or an Internet connection alarm as I do.
The script /etc/init.d/aumix is strange in that the comments at lines 17 & 18 state that it does not work
with alsa but the body of the script seems to have disabled provision to do so.

As a temporary fix I placed the following simple script in /root/Startup to set a safe level of 55%
Code:

#!/bin/sh
# This is /root/Startup/aumixvolfix
# Fix to give some sound volume at boot time - ETP 9th Feb 2018
aumix -v55



I found a simple fix: remove /etc/init.d/aumix entirely.

/etc/init.d/10alsa should take care of initial sound level setting, and reloading at bootup.
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PostPosted: Sun 11 Feb 2018, 19:11    Post subject: Re: Quirky Xerus 8.4 for x86_64, released Feb. 9, 2018
Subject description: Initial test		  
ETP wrote:

1. An error is logged due to the now unneeded presence of <Include>/root/.jwm/jwmrc-personal</Include>


It still is needed.

The history is that it was provided by package 'jwmconfig2', that was in all pups.

Radky developed JWMDesk and PupControl (which contains JWMDesk), assuming the existence of /root/.jwm/jwmrc-personal.

Quirky 8.4 has PupControl, and it still assumes prior existence of jwmrc-personal, and uses it.

I did put jwmrc-personal into some of my jwm PETs, given that jwmconfig2 is no longer used.

However, the PET used for Quirky 8.4, jwm-976-april64.pet, does not have it (yeah, I have rolled back to an old jwm, temporarily hopefully).

I have fixed this by creating rootfs-skeleton/root/.jwm/jwmrc-personal in woofQ. This will get overridden if any PET has it.
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PostPosted: Sun 11 Feb 2018, 19:37    Post subject: Re: Quirky Xerus 8.4 for x86_64, released Feb. 9, 2018
Subject description: Initial test		  
ETP wrote:
2. A possible issue for NVIDIA/nouveau users was the lack of Direct Rendering - i.e. hardware acceleration.
That was also evident in Chrome which I subsequently installed and was resolved using PKGget Package Manager
to install the MESA VDPAU acceleration drivers:
    mesa-vdpau-drivers_17.2.4|Mesa VDPAU video acceleration drivers
    libllvm5.0_5.0-3|Modular compiler and toolchain technologies runtime library


Aagh! I should have checked the deps.

Quirky 8.4 already has mesa-vdpau-drivers, however, has libllvm4.0.

As I have built from the Ubuntu 16.04.x "updates" repository, there is a change of dependency. mesa-vdpau-drivers now requires libllvm5.0

Thanks for reporting that, it is fixed, for upcoming 8.4.1.
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PostPosted: Sun 11 Feb 2018, 19:46    Post subject:  
roadkill13 wrote:

    Sound state not preserved across boots.
    Significant delay in drawing backgrounds and window content for numerous applications. (The windows themselves snap right open but are then blank for some time, Some apps open with window and background drawn but no content.
    This does not apply to all apps. For instance Iron browser snaps right open and speeds across the information highway effortlessly.)
    GUI freezes with any real hint of multitasking. This will occur most often when more than one window is created by an application during the completion of a specific task such as updating the package manager or setting up the network from first boot setup dialogue.
    Processes often complete in the background after a period of time and the GUI unfreezes and everything appears normal.
    Occasionally a hard reset is required when the GUI freezes.
    Although the Iron browser will run very effeciently it will also freeze the GUI during similar circumstances such as download dialogue at mediafire opening and prompting the download location window from the browser while slinging a pop under ad into the mix


These issues occur predictably and frequently.


Oh dear, something is very wrong. For me, Quirky 8.4 is very fast.
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PostPosted: Sun 11 Feb 2018, 23:18    Post subject:  
BarryK:

I finally installed your latest version and I must say; you've outdone yourself!

A few items: The getflash GUI seems to take its time coming up when using the menu icon. Much faster from terminal.

Duplicate MP Console Editor under Menu --> Document


I noticed you left out MPlayer. I know it's just a matter of choice; I have it running via terminal and a YAD script from your old Xerus packages and from RU Xerus.

Is the new firewall setup (from Puppy) more secure than the prior script? I don't care for the interface as much (still personal choice, I guess).

Great to see the Dropbox package in the menu. MikeB did a great job on that one.

Temperature box: Nice touch.

No YAD so I added it in. Again, a matter of choice, I guess.

Installed Quirky using .img file for the first time. I didn't use easydd because I made a script a few months back called img2sd that has a YAD gui on top of dd. I specifically made if to burn img's to the Raspberry Pi but it worked with the usb stick as well.

I plan on giving this version a workout over the next week; so I should have some feedback as to items that may not be working properly.

Overall, seems to run quicker than the older Xerus x86-64 versions.

Thanks!

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PostPosted: Mon 12 Feb 2018, 00:06    Post subject:  
BarryK:

Did you reprogram the function keys? F12 used to take me to the Menu, which was quite useful in times when the mouse froze up on me.

Kind regards,

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PostPosted: Mon 12 Feb 2018, 03:14    Post subject: Quirky Xerus 8.4 for x86_64, released Feb. 9, 2018  
I installed to a 64gb flash drive for use on my Lenovo ThinkCentre
desktop:

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Mon 12 Feb 2018 on Quirky Xerus64 8.4 Linux 4.14.17 x86_64
0.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GF108 [GeForce GT 430] (rev a1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: GF108 Board - 1071v0p1 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver: nvidia
X.Org version: 1.18.4
dimensions: 3200x900 pixels (883x251 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation
OpenGL renderer string: GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2
OpenGL core profile version string: 4.5.0 NVIDIA 390.25

Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz
Core 0: @2394 1: @2337 MHz

Installed the devx and kernel source pets, applications with petget,
installed the proprietary Nvidia driver.
Setup wireless with the Network Wizard.
Easy 7.0 would freeze now and then on this pc but haven't had that
happen so far with Quirky 8.4.

It's working well,
Thanks.
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Feb 2018, 05:32    Post subject:  
slavvo67 wrote:
BarryK:

Did you reprogram the function keys? F12 used to take me to the Menu, which was quite useful in times when the mouse froze up on me.

Kind regards,

Slavvo67


Not intentionally. It is because of a missing file, see this earlier post:

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=982792#982792

Should be releasing a 8.4.1 Service Pack tonight, to fix it.
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Feb 2018, 06:55    Post subject:  
BarryK wrote:
Not intentionally. It is because of a missing file, see this earlier post:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=982792#982792
Should be releasing a 8.4.1 Service Pack tonight, to fix it.
Whatever you fix, PLEASE do not reassign the F12 key! I consider this a configuration mistake. JWM should have no business to assign straight function keys. These keys should be left to programs. Programs are unable to use them if the file manager highjacks these keys. Letting JWM take the F12 key will - just as an example - prevent the use of mtpaint's F12 shortcut. JWM already provides a keyboard shortcut for the main menu (Alt+F1), there is no reason to use a second key for this function.
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Feb 2018, 11:09    Post subject:  
MochiMoppel wrote:
BarryK wrote:
Not intentionally. It is because of a missing file, see this earlier post:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=982792#982792
Should be releasing a 8.4.1 Service Pack tonight, to fix it.
Whatever you fix, PLEASE do not reassign the F12 key! I consider this a configuration mistake. JWM should have no business to assign straight function keys. These keys should be left to programs. Programs are unable to use them if the file manager highjacks these keys. Letting JWM take the F12 key will - just as an example - prevent the use of mtpaint's F12 shortcut. JWM already provides a keyboard shortcut for the main menu (Alt+F1), there is no reason to use a second key for this function.


Just checking, looking in jwmrc-personal...

Code:
<Key mask="A" key="Tab">next</Key>
<Key mask="A" key="F4">close</Key>
<Key mask="A" key="F10">maximize</Key>
<Key mask="A" key="F6">minimize</Key>
<Key mask="A" key="#">desktop#</Key>
<Key mask="A" key="F1">root:3</Key>
<Key mask="A" key="F2">window</Key>


...what does that mask="A" mean? The ALT key?

No F12 there, so I don't know why F12 should eba ny different from earlier Quirkies.
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Feb 2018, 11:16    Post subject:  
Quirky Xerus 8.4.1 is released:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/amd64/releases/xerus-8.4/

If you are already running 8.4, when you run the Package Manager, it should automatically offer to install the 8.4 to 8.4.1 Service Pack.

Or, go to the menu "Filesystem -> Quirky Version Upgrade Manager"

...er, but that doesn't work. Hmmm.

Well, here they are:

http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/amd64/packages/pet_packages-xerus/service_pack-8.4_TO_8.4.1-xerus64.pet

http://distro.ibiblio.org/quirky/quirky6/amd64/packages/pet_packages-xerus/devx_service_pack-8.4_TO_8.4.1-xerus64.pet
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Feb 2018, 11:27    Post subject:  
BarryK wrote:
..what does that mask="A" mean? The ALT key?
yes

Quote:
No F12 there, so I don't know why F12 should eba ny different from earlier Quirkies.
slavvo67 misses the shortcut, you wrote that you didn't change anything intentionally, so i figured that it was included in Quirky at some point as it is included in all recent Puppies. May be in .jwmrc, in my Slacko it's in jwmrc-personal:
Code:
<!-- Key bindings -->
<Key key="Up">up</Key>
<Key key="Down">down</Key>
<Key key="Right">right</Key>
<Key key="Left">left</Key>
<Key key="h">left</Key>
<Key key="j">down</Key>
<Key key="k">up</Key>
<Key key="l">right</Key>
<Key key="Return">select</Key>
<Key key="Escape">escape</Key>   
<Key key="F12">root:3</Key>             <== Here !

<Key mask="A" key="Tab">next</Key>
<Key mask="A" key="F4">close</Key>
<Key mask="A" key="F10">maximize</Key>
<Key mask="A" key="F6">minimize</Key>
<Key mask="A" key="#">desktop#</Key>
<Key mask="A" key="F1">root:3</Key>
<Key mask="A" key="F2">window</Key>
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Feb 2018, 12:10    Post subject:  
Well, even if you don't add the F12; from the messages above I should be able to add it myself.

FYI, there was no alt with the F12 in previous versions; just F12.

Update: BarryK: Your jwmconfig2-20160402.pet does, in fact add the F12 feature back in.

Mochi, you make a good point and after looking at the jwmrx-personal and personal2 files, it explains why certain applications have certain keys that do not behave correctly. So this file does, in fact, override specific key setups that other applications try to use. - Thank you for that one, Mochi.
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PostPosted: Mon 12 Feb 2018, 16:33    Post subject: installed 8.4.1  
I just installed Quirky Xerus 8.4.1. I did a fresh manual frugal install of 8.4 and installed the sevice pack pet for 8.4.1. I rebooted. Xorgwizard seemed to come up; it guessed everything right automatically for my new laptop.

For wifi it behaves like all other Quirky's and Easy's on this machine: no connection on startup with SNS, saved profile does not seem to work and frisbee does not find anything at all. I installed the .pet rerwin recently (20180209) offered on the Easy thread and that fixes everything.

Otherwise everything I tried seems to run fine.
I have the impression the CPU temperature keeps low, around 30°C, where I usually have around 36°.
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