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The Debian-Stretch-Live Starter Kit
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rcrsn51


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PostPosted: Wed 21 Feb 2018, 10:54    Post subject:  The Debian-Stretch-Live Starter Kit  
Update: This is the 64bit Stretch-Live Starter Kit revisited. It combines the final "-71" release with the k4.19.0-6-amd64 kernel from DevuanDog. You get the stability of Stretch with the advantages of a new kernel. You can continue to use all of your current Stretch apps and tools.

Update: The Starter Kit project has been upgraded to Debian Buster here. If you are building a system from scratch, this is the better choice. Your best bet for booting off an eMMC drive is Buster with a "live-boot" install.

Introduction: This project is a light-weight Linux built on a layered filesystem with a frugal install, loadable modules and access to a mainstream repo. It follows the same principles as Puppy Linux, but uses the Debian Stretch code base. The hardware support for audio/video/network/print/scan is comprehensive. It runs equally well on ancient Pentium 4's and bleeding-edge cloudbooks.

1. Download http://www.mediafire.com/file/nw26f5sog47v9iv/DebLive_Stretch-4.19.0-6-amd64.iso/file.
Code:
602669cd30f8b195a43b2609e00b7d8b  DebLive_Stretch-4.19.0-6-amd64.iso

This is a barebones 64bit ISO with a k4.19.0-6-amd64 kernel. It does NOT contain any application software, but gives you full access to the Debian repos through apt-get or synaptic. Fred's repo here has many locally-developed packages.

2. Go here and get the debian-stretch-frugal-install tool. It can do frugal installs of the ISO onto hard drives or USB devices. This system is designed to use save folders, NOT save files. Your install must be on an ext partition.

3. Open the System Tools menu. Make desktop shortcuts for the Sakura terminal and the PCManFM file manager.

4. You will need a web browser. Here are two choices to get you started:

a. Get the Palemoon squashfs module here. For older hardware, read here.

Go into your frugal install and locate the "live" folder. Copy the module here. It will automatically load at bootup and appear in the Internet menu.

b. Get the latest Firefox.
Code:
wget --no-check-cert https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/69.0/linux-x86_64/en-US/firefox-69.0.tar.bz2

Use Right-click > Open With > Accessories > Unzipper (For now, ignore the message about helper apps. Repeat.)
Extract the file to /opt
Run Firefox-apulse from the Internet menu.

Recent Firefoxes should play most Youtube content without any modifications. But read here for more info about streaming content.

5a. Chromium users can build their own squashfs module. See below.
5b. For the Google Chrome browser, read here.
5c. For Opera/Slimjet/Iron browsers , read here.

6. For an office suite, read here.

7. For a basic media player, use
Code:
apt-get update
apt-get install peasymp3

Get VLC here. Get DeaDBeeF here. Get SMPlayer here. For an audio conversion tool, go here.

8. For print/scan, use
Code:
apt-get update #if needed
apt-get install cups sane-utils peasyscan
.
Then read here. For a printer management app, read here.

9a. Get a PDF viewer. Note: See here for a patch.
Code:
apt-get update #if needed
apt-get install evince

9b. For PDF editing tools, read here, here or here.

10a. For a graphics/paint app, use
Code:
apt-get update #if needed
apt-get install azpainter

10b. For more graphics tools, get peasyscale or peasyglue from Fred's repo via apt-get.

11. For file extracting, use Unzipper from the Accessories menu.

12. For a temperature monitor, get CPUtemp. For a battery monitor, get Batterup. For a screen snapshot tool, get Snappie or Xscreenshot.

13. Users who prefer a desktop launch bar/dock should read here.

14. For a CD/DVD burning tool, read here.

15a. Here are some network-related tools: PeasyPort, CamPhoneTab, Samba, SimplePythonHTTPServer, BT4Stretch, WlanMaker, vnstat.
15b. For a modem connection app (analog and cellular), get PeasyDial.

16. To manage your squashfs modules on-the-fly, get my-squash-loader.

17. For additional WiFi drivers, read here. For info about network driver firmware, read here.

18. Information about the nVidia graphics driver can be found here, here and here.

19. If you have an app that needs mesa accelerated graphics, read here.


For more details, read here. There are links to other useful info.

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ally


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PostPosted: Wed 21 Feb 2018, 11:42    Post subject:  
neat

'installation' went well, copied the generated grub entry and manually added to my grub4dos menu1st entry

booted easily, snappy and clean

sadly I need chrome, I just don't get on with firefox derivatives, no chrome so tried chromium but run as root not supported, no iron or opera either

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PostPosted: Wed 21 Feb 2018, 11:50    Post subject:  
Thanks for testing.

I have a separate set of instructions for building your own Chromium squash module.

But before going down that road, it would be nice if someone would at least confirm that the other browsers work.
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Feb 2018, 12:06    Post subject:  
brb...
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Feb 2018, 12:13    Post subject:  
ok, posting from palemoon 27.7.2 using sfs load gui from Ddog special menu

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PostPosted: Wed 21 Feb 2018, 12:19    Post subject:  
How to make your own Chromium squashfs module

You will need the repo2sfs tool attached below. It is a general-purpose script that pulls an app and its dependencies from the Debian repo and converts it into a squash module.

Extract the script and copy it to /usr/local/bin.

Before trying Chromium, do a test run.
Start in an empty folder. Open a terminal (F4) and run the script: repo2sfs
Select the app "asunder" with extra package "lame".
Build and test the squash module. It appears in the Audio/Video menu.

Now for Chromium - the latest versions prefer a non-root user:

In the System Tools menu, run Add New User
Create a user named "guest" with password "guest"
Accept the default list of groups.

Extract the chromium-guest-setup script attached below. Copy it to your work folder.

Run repo2sfs and select "chromium"
Update: Include the Extra package: chromium-sandbox
Stop at Pause B for "fix anything in /tmp/repo2sfs".
Open another terminal and run the chromium-guest-setup script.

Finish the build.
Load the module and run Chromium from the Internet menu.
chromium-guest-setup.tar.gz
Description  Extract this. It is NOT a fake .gz file.
Updated for Buster Starter Kit
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Filename  chromium-guest-setup.tar.gz 
Filesize  526 Bytes 
Downloaded  75 Time(s) 
repo2sfs.tar.gz
Description  Extract this. It is NOT a fake .gz file.
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Filename  repo2sfs.tar.gz 
Filesize  1.03 KB 
Downloaded  93 Time(s) 

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PostPosted: Wed 21 Feb 2018, 12:27    Post subject:  
now posting from firefox 58.0.2

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PostPosted: Wed 21 Feb 2018, 12:34    Post subject:  
asunder created ok, didn't understand much of what the script was doing however, trying chromium now...

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ally


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PostPosted: Wed 21 Feb 2018, 12:48    Post subject:  
chromium buit and I'm posting from it now, however it appears faulty, I am unable to sign in

I tried uploading to the archive but it failed with error decoding json file, it gets scanned during upload

I've put it on my gdrive here:

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1PexyCMaSIgSa0vWtldVcMC_AYSZuwxda

also how to install flashplayer? and how to set country code?

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PostPosted: Wed 21 Feb 2018, 13:13    Post subject:  
Palemoon squashfs working fine for me.
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Feb 2018, 13:45    Post subject:  
ally wrote:
chromium buit and I'm posting from it now, however it appears faulty, I am unable to sign in

Please explain. I can run Chromium-guest from the Internet menu and sign into this forum.

Quote:
also how to install flashplayer?

At the moment, you would have to do it manually from https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/. I will put up some instructions.

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and how to set country code?

From the System menu, run PeasyClock.
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Feb 2018, 14:12    Post subject:  
Hi Bill, nice initiative !
Good to see different continuation of Stretch-Live.

Posting from Firefox according to your instruction in first post, only thing: no audio yet.
Maybe add info (or link to) about how to make audio work with apulse ?

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also how to install flashplayer?

At the moment, you would have to do it manually from https://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/. I will put up some instructions.


This works OK from what I tested;
https://fredx181.github.io/StretchDog/i386/Packages/Included/flashplayerchoice_1.0.3_all.deb
Appears as "Flashplayer Choice" in category Internet

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PostPosted: Wed 21 Feb 2018, 14:18    Post subject:  
sorry, I wasn't very explicit, I am unable to sign into chromium itself to import my account specs

thanks for the peasyclock info

@fred - thanks

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PostPosted: Wed 21 Feb 2018, 16:44    Post subject:  
Thanks Fred.

I updated the Firefox instructions above to include the latest security.sandbox modifications for Youtube audio.

Also, how do you set a different locale? I know that you can do it in your Dogs, but there is nothing in the System menu that comes out of my mklive build.

Bill
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PostPosted: Wed 21 Feb 2018, 16:59    Post subject:  
rcrsn51 wrote:
Thanks Fred.

I am looking for a recent post that has the about:config settings for Firefox audio. Do you have one?

Also, how do you set a different locale? I know that you can do it in your Dogs, but there is nothing in the System menu that comes out of my mklive build.

Bill


You can put it in a user.js file in the directory that has the Firefox profile. 32 bit and 64 bit are different. This is what I have for 64 bit.

Code:
// for using apulse with latest firefox 64 bit
user_pref("security.sandbox.content.level", 2);
user_pref("security.sandbox.content.write_path_whitelist", "/dev/snd/");
user_pref("security.sandbox.content.syscall_whitelist", "16");
user_pref("security.sandbox.content.read_path_whitelist", "/dev/snd/");


edit: See this post for Fred's 32 bit version.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=982503#982503
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