Xenialpup64 CE 7.5 / 25 Nov 2017

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tutao
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boot up issue

#661 Post by tutao »

Download ISO image to usb flash then start up the computer from usb flash.
Could enter the 1st menu of Xenialpup.
Then choose an option. It showes to load Xenial pup linx but it will fail.

The error log shows can not find the puppy_xenialpup64_7.5.sfs.
Error is too critical, dropping out to conole....
Refer to the attached pictures for more details.
Some error log information is:

Feb 22 20:57:22 (none) kern.notice kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] 30310400 512-byte logical blocks: (15.5 GB/14.5 GiB)
Feb 22 20:57:22 (none) kern.notice kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
Feb 22 20:57:22 (none) kern.debug kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 45 00 00 00
Feb 22 20:57:22 (none) kern.notice kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: disabled, read cache: enabled, doesn't support DPO or FUA
Feb 22 20:57:22 (none) kern.info kernel: sdb: sdb1
Feb 22 20:57:22 (none) kern.notice kernel: sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
Feb 22 20:57:22 (none) kern.info kernel: clocksource: Switched to clocksource tsc
Feb 22 20:57:22 (none) kern.warn kernel: FAT-fs (sdb1): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck.
Feb 22 20:57:22 (none) kern.notice kernel: random: crng init done
Feb 22 20:57:35 (none) kern.warn kernel: FAT-fs (sdb1): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck.

It seems that sdb1 is mounted error in the puppy startup process.
Search the web and can not find a fix.

Then I made a frugal installation mannual by picking some files from ISO image. Start up it and will meet the same problem.

Any hints or suggestion? thanks.
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#662 Post by bigpup »

I would reformat the USB drive.
I assume you are formatting to fat32.
Hopefully that will make sure the file system is clean and not corrupted or fragmented.

Maybe do a fresh new download of the Xenialpup64 7.5 iso. To make sure it is good.

When you install to the USB it needs to have all the files that are in the Xenialpup iso installed on it.

You seem to understand how to do this, so will not explain.

Could try a different USB port to plug into.

Added info:
In the complete total Xenialpup files you installed on the usb flash drive.

I am not sure which boot menu is being used by your computer, so look in both of them.
grub.cfg
isolinux.cfg

open in a text editor.
Look for pmedia=cd in an entry that does a normal boot.
Change it to pmedia=usbflash

That tells the boot process stuff is on a usb flash drive. That may help.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
YaPI(any iso installer)

tutao
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#663 Post by tutao »

@bigpup, Thank you for your suggestions.

I tried some of your methods and did more investigations. Did find some interesting clues.

I actually met two issues with the same error information which are shoed in the earlier post.
I am using GRUB as the boot loader and config the menu.lst file.

1. Frugal installation.
I put all the xenial files in /xenialpup64-7.5/....
The relating menu.lst contentes are:
title Puppy xenialpup64 7.5 in sdb1 dir xenialpup64-7.5
find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /xenialpup64-7.5/initrd.gz
# kernel /xenialpup64/vmlinuz pmedia=usbflash pfix=fsck
kernel /xenialpup64-7.5/vmlinuz rootwait rw
initrd /xenialpup64-7.5/initrd.gz

Then I met issue when puppy is booting to find sfs file.

I tried moving puppy_xenialpup64_7.5.sfs and zdrv_xenialpup64_7.5.sfs to the root directory /.
I got supprising result. xenialpuppy could start up succesfully. xenialpup64save file was also
saved in the root diretory.

How did other people handle with the frugal instalation? Did I missed some parameters to load xenial
in configuration file?

2. ISO image.
The ISO image is corect. I tried burning it to the CD then it could boot the computer succesfully.
Originally I also put it to the USB and use GRUB to load ISO image directly by menu.1st.

title LIVE CDROM xenialpup64-7.5
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /cdrom/xenialpup64-7.5-uefi.iso
map --mem --heads=0 --sectors-per-track=0 (hd0,0)/cdrom/xenialpup64-7.5-uefi.iso (hd32)
map --hook
chainloader (hd32)

Then I could enter the xenial CD menu. But failed in the xenial linux booting.

Again, how did other people to install xenial using usbflash? Did I missed some parameters?

Thanks again.

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#664 Post by bigpup »

I am not so sure your grub menu entry is correctly made for how Xenialpup boots.

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# kernel /xenialpup64/vmlinuz pmedia=usbflash pfix=fsck
That (#) is keeping this line from loading.
xenialpup64 is not the name of the directory you are using.

The second kernel line

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kernel /xenialpup64-7.5/vmlinuz rootwait rw
That is actually being used.
It should look like this to be correct.

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kernel /xenialpup64-7.5/vmlinuz pmedia=usbflash pfix=fsck
However, that may not be all that is wrong with the Grub menu entry.

If you just put all the files that are in the Xenialpup64 7.5.iso on the USB flash and not have them in a directory(folder) it should boot just like the CD.
Have no added boot loader.
The boot loader is already one of the files in the iso.
That is a live usb install.

If you are going to do the install inside of a directory.
That is a frugal install.
You will need a boot loader and it's menu.

The Grub4dos bootloader config, that is in any Puppy, will install the Grub4dos boot loader that is specially made to work with Puppy installs.
You could run it from the live CD you made.
When you run Grub4dos config select the USB as the device to install on.
Select search only within this device.
(all other settings are good as they are)
OK.
OK.
OK.
Done.

This is a typical Grub4dos menu entry for a frugal install on a USB flash drive.
Example:
The usb is sdd and Xenialpup is installed on partition sdd1.

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title Puppy xenialpup64 7.5 (sdd1/xenialpup6475uefi)
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /xenialpup6475uefi/initrd.gz
  kernel /xenialpup6475uefi/vmlinuz   psubdir=xenialpup6475uefi pmedia=usbflash pfix=fsck
  initrd /xenialpup6475uefi/initrd.gz
That name you are giving to your directory could be a problem.
Notice in the example xenialpup6475uefi is the name used.
Keeping the name specific to the Puppy version and simple is best.
If the boot process has to search for stuff. It is looking for a specific directory name that is kind of coded into the initrd.gz.

If you did the frugal install using the Puppy Universal Installer, it would know what to name the directory the frugal install is in.

I have a USB flash drive with several frugally installed Puppies on it.
Grub4dos boot loader installed on the USB and an entry to boot each Puppy.
Works great.
Add or delete a Puppy.
Just rerun Grub4dos config to adjust the boot menu to the change.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
When I was a kid I wanted to be older.... This is not what I expected :shock:
YaPI(any iso installer)

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Etcher.io Tool to write a .ISO File to a USB Flash Drive

#665 Post by WB7ODYFred »

The internal format of the xenialpup64-7.5-uefi.iso file has a buggy MBR partition format information. Maybe the GPT table is not correct either.

Could someone check the MBR boot sector and partition table information on the present xenialpup64-7.5-uefi.iso file dated November 24, 2017 330M in size
http://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/puppy-xenial/64/

Using Command line

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dd if=xenialpup64-7.5-uefi.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M conv=sync
Produces the following error with a direct byte by byte copy from file to a usb flash drive.
fdisk -l /dev/sdb
WARNING: GPT (GUID Partition Table) detected on '/dev/sdb'! The util fdisk doesn't support GPT. Use GNU Parted.

Disk /dev/sdb: 15.7 GB, 15664676864 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1904 cylinders, total 30595072 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x63374e06



Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdb1 * 0 675839 337920 0 Empty
/dev/sdb2 116 8307 4096 ef EFI (FAT-12/16/32)
Partition 1 at /dev/sdb1 does not have a partition format ID Type

Reading ArchLinux Wiki USB Flash installation media document for inspiration, they have you create the partitions table first then copy over the files to the newly created partitions.

So how do you create a USB Flash drive for XenialPup 7.5?
What is the official method from Windows to create a bootable flash drive for XenialPup 7.5?


Arch Linux Docs USB Flash Installation
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/US ... tion_media

Note Windows and Linux documentation for writing USB Flash with tools in the above Arch Docs



FatDog flash docs instructions

http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/fa ... ystem.html
http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/fa ... drive.html
http://distro.ibiblio.org/fatdog/web/fa ... rive2.html

Ted Dog and Cat&Dog instructions to make a bootable UEFI USB Flash Drive
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 727#818727
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 706#865706


Chromiums OS disk format design docs
https://www.chromium.org/chromium-os/ch ... isk-format Chromium OS details the information for creating a GPT disk and has some visual charts.

Gentoo Wiki Installation Disks
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:A ... tion/Disks
Good information on Gentoo Wiki
Related Information:


How I ,Fred, made a bootable USB flash with Puppy for UEFI
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 913#983913
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... f33ee0a2fa

LIfeWire Master Boot Record MBR article
https://www.lifewire.com/what-is-a-mast ... br-2625936[/url]
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#666 Post by ktvsoft »

can puppy support XFS, then i can mount xfs volume

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#667 Post by ktvsoft »

can puppy support XFS, then i can mount xfs volume

april

#668 Post by april »

I notice when right clicking the network icon , disconnect works but reconnect does not.

EDIT ..strange I see that now I dont have a reconnect at all in the right click menu
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#669 Post by rerwin »

april wrote:I notice when right clicking the network icon , disconnect works but reconnect does not.
I find that this can occur with frisbee as the active connection manager if both a wifi and wired ethernet connection are active.

I fixed that in frisbee-1.4.7. Now, the first 'disconnect' will kill the wifi connection; a second 'disconnect' kills the remaining connections and puts 'reconnect' in the network tray menu.

SNS and network_wizard don't allow multiple connections to be active, so should not have the problem.
Richard

jss83

#670 Post by jss83 »

Trying to use gparted to check a partition on my hdd and it is giving me this error :

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What can I do to fix this? :shock:

april

#671 Post by april »

Get a newer version of e2fsck perhaps?

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#672 Post by 666philb »

jss83 wrote:Trying to use gparted to check a partition on my hdd and it is giving me this error :

Image

What can I do to fix this? :shock:
hi jss83,

i've added an updated e2fsprogs, quickpet >>> xenialpup updates
see if it works then
Bionicpup64 built with bionic beaver packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114311
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331

jss83

#673 Post by jss83 »

Hi 666philb, long time no see :)

I updated and then rebooted to test it but gparted isn't working anymore .. :? when running from start menu, the window to select which drive to scan shows up but nothing happens after selecting any/all of them. I ran it through terminal and it shows this :



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april

#674 Post by april »

Yeh I updated too and get the same

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#675 Post by 666philb »

hopefully fixed this time :D
Bionicpup64 built with bionic beaver packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114311
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331

jss83

#676 Post by jss83 »

Works like a charm now. Thanks so much! :D

Edit: one more thing I noticed in Xenialpup different from Tahrpup, changing the icon theme does not changes the folder icons.

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#677 Post by 666philb »

jss83 wrote:one more thing I noticed in Xenialpup different from Tahrpup, changing the icon theme does not changes the folder icons.
hi jss83,

in xenialpup, ROX uses the 'puppy standard' icon theme by 01micko
you can change this in ROX's options >>> Types >>> icon theme. and setting it to ROX for the folders to match the desktop theme.

(ROX options can be accessed by right clicking in an open window)
Bionicpup64 built with bionic beaver packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=114311
Xenialpup64, built with xenial xerus packages http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=107331

jss83

#678 Post by jss83 »

Thanks :D

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#679 Post by bigpup »

Keyboard layout problem that is not fixed by doing this:
There is a script in /startup/disabled called:

keyboardlayoutfix.

You just drag that to the startup directory.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=113243

It is stated that this was not an issue in Tahrpup.
The things they do not tell you, are usually the clue to solving the problem.
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#680 Post by Gem1964 »

Hi,

I have an old Asus X552C laptop. It has only two usb connectors, so I prefer optical media instead of using usb flash drive. Just to spare usb connectors.

I booted Xenialpup64 7.5 from DVD+RW, made the custom-puppy-uefi.iso, burned it to DVD+RW (multisession) and installed some stuff like Chrome browser. While saving the session I noticed the warning message which said that laptop CD/DVD-drives are not suitable for saving the session.

I saved the session (or tried to) anyway.

Then, while booting the computer with that very DVD, booting hangs when it is "loading folder ...blah... from CD/DVD". Also, seems that there is no pup_save.2fs file in the DVD.

Does that mean that with my laptop DVD drive I cannot save the session and that's why the booting fails?

One more problem with my desktop computer (Asus P8P67 Deluxe). When I boot with Xenialpup64 DVD I end up to Xenialpup desktop OK, but my mouse or keyboard won't work at all. Keyboard is connected to usb connector and mouse is connected to ps/2 with adapter. There's nothing else to do but shut down the computer with hardware power button.

Both keyboard and mouse work nicely with bios setup and Windows 10. But not with Xenialpup64 or the new Bionic Beaver Puppy 18.05.

Changing bios setting USB Legacy to Auto or enabled won't help.

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