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#961 Post by peebee »

Browser updates: Iron, Slimjet & Min
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#962 Post by Marv »

slimjet_lxsc_spot_17.0.3.0.sfs updated to slimjet_lxsc_spot_18.0.2.0.sfs, running under latest LxPupSc. Shared Spot directory is on the EXT2 data partition with a symlink to it from each pup on the computer. Unload one SFS, load new one. Didn't skip a beat.

Edit: Ditto for LxArtfulPup, ArtfulPup and uPupBB on both the core 2 duo laptops and the i5 sandy bridge laptops.

Later: Spoke too soon!! Using Slimjet 18.0.2.0 on the i5. Looking at monitor specs/reviews on amazon, cnet, several other sites. LOTS of page failures! Snap or aw shucks :? Ebay, weather, several forums, news and economic sites had all been fine all day. Seems confined to the ad ridden commercials and occurs with or without the use of adblock plus. Identical behavior on the core 2 duo and under LxPupSc and uPupBB. Went back to 17.0.3.0 and no failures. When a failure occurs, the pages seemed to load initially and then failed when an ad or slider tried to load. It never crashed Slimjet but those particular pages were not usable. So for now it's still 17.0.3.0 as the workhorse. Alas.

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First try with LxPup-Sc-18.04T

#963 Post by davids45 »

G'day peebee,

I made a manual frugal from the iso (LxPupSc-18.04T-k64) on my old HP Smallform desktop. It took me a while to realise this is suitable for 'old-dog' 32-bitters like me :) .

I switched to the 'devil-I-know' JWM and added my usual applications in the form of my many pets composed of symlinks to my boot-mounted data partition. I then dragged each .desktop file to the pinboard for quick access (screenshot).

Some apps needed extra libs which I had already made as 'missing-lib' pets from trying my apps in earlier Slacko Pups.

My apps all work in this LxPupSc ... except the inkgui package that says it cannot find my networked printer (screenshot). Most other Pups (maybe not other Slackos - I haven't checked recently) have no problem with this very handy printer ink level app. The printer prints and its scanner scans so I'm puzzled (as usual).

I noticed my (27) drive icons are very, very slow to appear in turn across the bottom of the pinboard (check screenshot). Is there an option to say, only display mounted partitions, if this slowness is now unavoidable? Previous Pups seem not as slow.

Likewise, the 'Places' panel when I go to 'Open File' have all my partitions when all I need are the mounted partitions and /root (screenshot). Again some other Pups are free of this panel clutter. It is really my problem with so many partitions but I don't still know how to get rid of these unnecessary 'Places'.

My usual thanks for all your Puppies - great fun for me as a hooked user/addict.

David S.
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#964 Post by peebee »

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#965 Post by Marv »

Got slimjet sorted to my satisfaction for now, see 3 posts up. The site failures were due to the libffmpeg.so in the package (11.3MB, source?). I first built an 18.0.1.0 SFS using OscarTalks SFS as a base, adding libs for slackware and modifying the /usr/bin files to run-as-spot with --user-data-dir=/root/spot/. Runs fine, no failures. Then I swapped the libffmpeg.so from a fresh slimjet 18.0.2.0 download into peebees 18.0.2.0 package. No failures. Then I built an SFS from a fresh slimjet 18.0.3.0 download, keeping their libffmpeg.so and adding only libs needed for LxPupSc and the std. /usrbin files for run-as-spot. It is running fine, no failures to date on the sites that were problematic. I'll continue using that one but so far so good. I haven't played with any other libffmpegs. An aside, with all the libs in /opt/slimjet it seems to pick them up ok without the

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export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/slimjet:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
line in /usr/bin/slimjet. Runs in LxPupSc and no nags about libs anyway when run from terminal.

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#966 Post by peebee »

Hi Marv

Sorry I didn't update libffmpeg.so correctly....

slimjet_lxsc_spot_18.0.3.0.sfs is uploaded
with pepperflash-29.0.0.140
and
updated libffmpeg.so 0.29.3
see
https://www.slimjet.com/en/libffmpeg.php
and
https://github.com/iteufel/nwjs-ffmpeg- ... /releases/
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#967 Post by Marv »

Hi peebee,
Your slimjet_lxsc_spot_18.0.3.0.sfs downloaded and briefly checked (in uPupBB right now). Running fine on all sites now. Given what I do, I don't need the extra codecs but one of my users does so It's good to have them in overall.

Edit: Also checked in the current LxPupSc.

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#968 Post by peebee »

BIG +3 delta
ea74048dcce9f6d609e70a5bc4137dbd LxPupSc-18.04+3T-k64.iso

- Complete Slackware Current rebuild as of Thu Apr 19 01:04:06 UTC 2018

- Kernel 4.16.2 64 bit GCC-7.3.0 build
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LxPupSc-18.05T-k64

#969 Post by peebee »

LxPupSc-18.05T-k64 is a 32-bit woof-ce 'testing' branch build with a 64-bit kernel (therefore only compatible with 64-bit capable processors)

LxPupSc-18.05T-k64.iso {devx} - (devx does not include kernel sources or headers) {kernel 4.16.6-lxpup64 sources}

iso md5 = a5bb70da0f0083bc42dd20914fed57d5

Interim delta updates and newer kernels may be available.

Delta from 18.04T is available

- kernel 4.16.6 64-bit built with GCC-7.3.0
(alternative 32-bit kernels 3.16.x 4.4.x & 4.9.x also available - all need firmware in the fdrv)
- Made from Slackware-Current as of Tue May 1 20:43:20 UTC 2018
- BUILD_FROM_WOOF='testing;bf6a9a76;2018-05-01 23:22:38 +0800'
- web browser in adrv is light-48.0
- firmware is in fdrv
- alternative fall-back xorg is in ydrv (no need to install unless needed)

**N.B. the 64-bit kernel means that any kernel drivers have to be built in a true 64-bit system - LxPupSc64 with it's own devx is suggested but use the kernel sources above

Woof-CE build repository is: http://smokey01.com/peebee/slackocurrent/

Chromium, Firefox, Palemoon and Seamonkey are in the repository and installable via Internet -> Get Web Browser

The versions of the browsers as of 01-may-2018 with their md5sums are:
chromium_66.0.3359.139+pepper_29.0.0.140 RUN-AS-SPOT :af1a0c80840fb64c3762c44283dd59b3
firefox-52.7.4esr :199c994574b0aa89d8d02c0a21cfe2f5
palemoon-27.9.0 :cc80e0e325fdf73259129db186adb0ec
seamonkey-2.49.2 :20db44d39fe0baef6d8ad4a222f31bc7
firefox-59, iron, slimjet, vivaldi and min are also available
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#970 Post by peebee »

Interim delta +3 is available....

iso md5: bb197ab34502c58e638828ee248a5807 LxPupSc-18.05+3T-k64.iso

Lots of Slackware-Current updates (to Thu May 10 21:01:11 UTC 2018) due to the upgrade to openssl-1.1.0h

PcManFM & libfm are also updated to v1.3.0 - but NOTE: .desktop files are handled differently and this affects the panels....if you get annoying popups you've probably got files in your savefolder that either need to be deleted or both edited (attached with -false.gz):
/root/.config/lxpanel/LXDE/panels/panel
/root/.config/lxpanel/LXDE/panels/top1.panel
to remove the path:
/usr/share/applications
from all items:

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Button {
id=/usr/share/applications/*.desktop
}
Kernel 4.16.8 is also available and
there are new versions of chromium, firefox, palemoon and seamonkey
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#971 Post by Marv »

18.05 frugal install on i5 based laptop updated to 18.05 +1. SNS wifi connection, overall look and feel, sound, video setup & speed etc survives the update ok. PCManFM oddities noted. Editing /root/.config/lxpanel/LXDE/panels/panel per the post above does get rid of the extra dialog box. Sylpheed returns the following error and will not start.

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# sylpheed
sylpheed: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libsylph-0.so.1: undefined symbol: SSL_library_init
More testing later...

Edit: Pristine boot tested. Same Sylpheed error as above. SNS connection, sound, video resolution and speed fine. slimjet_lxsc_spot_18.0.3.0.sfs working perfectly in both pristine and update.

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#972 Post by peebee »

Marv wrote:Sylpheed returns the following error and will not start.

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# sylpheed
sylpheed: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libsylph-0.so.1: undefined symbol: SSL_library_init
Thanks Marv

That's a consequence of the openssl update and means that sylpheed needs to be rebuilt.....I wonder how many other apps (that I don't use) will be similarly affected?

DON'T use +1 if you need sylpheed OR other web related apps that need security = openssl until you've tested.

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#973 Post by peebee »

Hmmmm - well neither Sylpheed-3.7.0 nor 3.5.1 will build under the new openssl.....

Slackware have provided:
openssl10-solibs-1.0.2o-i586-1.txz: Added.
Added compatibility libraries for binaries that need to remain compiled
against openssl-1.0.2
so it looks like that will have to be added to the build for sylpheed - tested and sylpheed-3.5.1 does start when the old libs are installed.

+2 coming up....
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#974 Post by peebee »

+2 is available....

23995ebd7898ed7adfca9f3930e35bfc LxPupSc-18.05+2T-k64.iso
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#975 Post by Marv »

+2 applied, Sylpheed now ok here. I did have to manually accept a cert, see attached. Everything I use routinely seems ok now.
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LxPupSc-18.05+2

#976 Post by davids45 »

G'day peebee,

Thanks for all your work with Slack and recent Ubuntu Pups.

I've made a new LxScPup (switched to JWM & Rox but used the existing 18.05 savefile) and it works very well as before (earlier post of my 18.04 install) but I again have minor issues with a couple of packages.

I think these could be woof-related and hope by raising these, fixes could be made where possible.

'Open file' 'Places' panel still cluttered in this series (screenshot) - Bionic Pups are not affected if that helps identify what's happening.

Simple printer ink level monitors do not work - again Bionic and most other Pups are fine to tell me how much ink is in my networked Epson printer (terminal screenshot shows errors for two ink packages).

Rox-Filer - I'd like to re-order the columns I need to check/use toward the centre of the details screen. In a very few Pups this is easily done by a drag'n'drop (e.g. xenialpup-7.5). Could Rox-Filer be amended to have this capability?

Thanks again,
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#977 Post by Sage »

Why the preoccupation with Sylpheed? Claws is preferred by many serious emailers! Broadly, they are compatible, the latter being the more developed spin-off.

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#978 Post by peebee »

Updated 15-may

delta +3
d788577c307bbe251785557a1bd5359f LxPupSc-18.05+3T-k64.iso

Notice: these drivers may a. not work & b. may disappear in the future....
Sat May 12 00:28:18 UTC 2018
Where possible, the driver packages for X11 have been recompiled. However,
there were some (xf86-video-geode, xf86-video-tseng, xf86-video-sis,
xf86-video-savage, xf86-video-s3virge, xf86-video-rendition, xf86-video-r128,
and xf86-video-mach64) that would not compile against xorg-server-1.20.0 and
for which no patches seem to be available. Is anyone still using those, or are
they finally obsolete? I'll hold off on removing them until I can find out one
way or the other.
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#979 Post by peebee »

Hi @davids45

Your use-case is somewhat unusual.....LxPup is meant to be primarily an LXDE based system although JWM/Rox are retained in the build for "emergency purposes".... + you have "more than the average" number of partitions on your system....

On your 3 comments:
1. this could be gvfs related - does LxPupBionic have the same issue?
2. no idea I'm afraid - does slacko-6.9.9.9 have this issue?
3. there are many variants of Rox around with different patches....the one in LxPupSc comes from slacko and is adequate for its intended purpose - you could try the one in upupbb:
http://www.smokey01.com/peebee/upupbb/e ... 6_s704.pet
or you could try the experimental one from woodenshoe-wi:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 140#990140

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#980 Post by Marv »

Sage wrote:Why the preoccupation with Sylpheed? Claws is preferred by many serious emailers! Broadly, they are compatible, the latter being the more developed spin-off.
Hi Sage, My email needs are rudimentary & Sylpheed is in most pups and just works for my simple institution supported IMAP. I've run Claws but slightly prefer the Sylpheed display format. Truth be told I still pine for Eudora :wink:
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