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Install and run GIMP 2.10 in Bionicpup 18.05
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rockedge


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PostPosted: Sat 28 Apr 2018, 12:52    Post subject:  Install and run GIMP 2.10 in Bionicpup 18.05  

I have been able to build and install GIMP 2.10 by using Flatpak 0.11.4 on a Bionic Pup 18.05......

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mikeslr


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PostPosted: Sat 28 Apr 2018, 15:48    Post subject: Re: GIMP 2.10 in Bionicpup 18.05 using Flatpak  

Hi rockedge,

rockedge wrote:
I have been able to build and install GIMP 2.10 by using Flatpak 0.11.4 on a Bionic Pup 18.05

Did you install Flatpak? or figure out how to unpack it?

Either way, if you're so inclined, it would help those of us who are technically challenged if you could write up a "How To" perhaps in the "How To" section; unless, of course, it was as simple as plugging "Flatpak" in Bionicpup's Puppy Package Manager's Search Box. In that case, an answer here would suffice.

Thanks,

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PostPosted: Sat 28 Apr 2018, 17:09    Post subject:  

I installed a.deb file of flakpak I found version 0.11.4 BUT on the PPM
is flatpak 0.11.3 which should be okay.
I think I installed the .deb then I tried to run flatpak from the command line to see if it would go. I think there were one or two libs needed that I installed with the PPM to get flatpak to run.
then on the command line I used ->
Code:
# flatpak install https://flathub.org/repo/appstream/org.gimp.GIMP.flatpakref


then to start GIMP I made a small script
Code:
#!/bin/sh
flatpak run org.gimp.GIMP

which I dragged to the desktop and gave a nice GIMP icon.

that is what I did...I think ....I flew through it and was sort of surprised when GIMP started right up!!

Now I am looking into what it will take to convert it to an SFS or PET

Flatplak 0.11.4 -> http://ppa.launchpad.net/alexlarsson/flatpak/ubuntu/pool/main/f/flatpak/libflatpak0_0.11.4-flatpak1~bionic_i386.deb
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mikeslr


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PostPosted: Sat 28 Apr 2018, 19:47    Post subject:  

Hi rockedge,

Thanks for the detailed explanation.

Since flatpaks serve the same purpose as SFSes --providing the ability to use applications without installing them-- I think that primary reasons to extract their contents would be converting them to pets when only pets will do, or modifying them to run under operating systems which can't use flatpaks. As far as I can tell, OSes before Xenial Xerus and Slackware 14.2 could not use them. Using their content to construct pets or SFSes for pre-Xenialpup or Slacko 700 may also require accounting for later glibcs and gtks. That may require more work than trying to build the applications from source, or binaries. But when I use the word "may" always remember I'm guessing. Rolling Eyes We won't know until someone makes the effort. Smile

Hope these posts contain information helpful in that effort:

https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/issues/126
https://github.com/flatpak/flatpak/issues/687

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rockedge


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PostPosted: Sat 28 Apr 2018, 23:19    Post subject:  

update on the process to use flatpak to add applications using GIMP 2.10 as an example.

Code:
~# flatpak --version
flatpak: error while loading shared libraries: libappstream-glib.so.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
~# flatpak --version
flatpak: error while loading shared libraries: libostree-1.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
~# flatpak --version
Flatpak 0.11.4


added these libraries using the Puppy Package Manager (after repo update)
Code:
libappstream-glib
libostree-1


Code:
~# flatpak install https://flathub.org/repo/appstream/org.gimp.GIMP.flatpakref
This application depends on runtimes from:
  https://dl.flathub.org/repo/
Configure this as new remote 'flathub' [y/n]: y
Installing: org.gimp.GIMP/i386/stable
Required runtime for org.gimp.GIMP/i386/stable (org.gnome.Platform/i386/3.28) is not installed, searching...
Found in remote flathub, do you want to install it? [y/n]: y
Installing: org.gnome.Platform/i386/3.28 from flathub
error: While pulling runtime/org.gnome.Platform/i386/3.28 from remote flathub: Error resolving “dl.flathub.org”: Temporary failure in name resolution
~# flatpak install https://flathub.org/repo/appstream/org.gimp.GIMP.flatpakref
Installing: org.gimp.GIMP/i386/stable
Required runtime for org.gimp.GIMP/i386/stable (org.gnome.Platform/i386/3.28) is not installed, searching...
Found in remote flathub, do you want to install it? [y/n]: y
Installing: org.gnome.Platform/i386/3.28 from flathub
[####################] 10 delta parts, 77 loose fetched; 222268 KiB transferred in 791 seconds
Installing: org.freedesktop.Platform.ffmpeg/i386/1.6 from flathub
[####################] 1 delta parts, 2 loose fetched; 2783 KiB transferred in 11 seconds
Installing: org.gnome.Platform.Locale/i386/3.28 from flathub
[####################] 5 delta parts, 120 loose fetched; 95009 KiB transferred in 416 seconds
Installing: org.gimp.GIMP/i386/stable from flathub
[###################=] Downloading: 50.9 MB/51.8 MB (235.7 kB/s)               
error: While pulling app/org.gimp.GIMP/i386/stable from remote flathub: Error resolving “dl.flathub.org”: Temporary failure in name resolution
~# flatpak install https://flathub.org/repo/appstream/org.gimp.GIMP.flatpakref
Installing: org.gimp.GIMP/i386/stable
Installing: org.gimp.GIMP/i386/stable from flathub
[####################] 3 delta parts, 2 loose fetched; 896 KiB transferred in 5 seconds
Installing: org.gimp.GIMP.Locale/i386/stable from flathub
[####################] 2 delta parts, 1 loose fetched; 7114 KiB transferred in 27 seconds
~# flatpak run org.gimp.GIMP
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don570


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PostPosted: Mon 30 Apr 2018, 20:19    Post subject:  

There is an appimage available but I'm not sure it will run in puppy
https://github.com/aferrero2707/gimp-appimage/releases
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mikeslr


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PostPosted: Mon 30 Apr 2018, 22:04    Post subject: Gimp 2.10 AppImage (64-bit)  

Thanks don570 for reporting about Gimp 2.10 AppImage. Haven't done anything beyond downloading, changing permissions, and clicking it to load. It loaded in Xenialpup64. As it includes its own glibc libraries I expect similar results in Tahrpup.

This is a 161 Mb package. On my quad-core with 8 Gbs of RAM it took two minutes to open. Before deciding that you need the "latest and greatest", I'd suggest reading the release notes for 2.10 and see whether anything you actually need has been added since Gimp 2.9x or even 2.8x. These weigh in at about 65 Mbs, and open in about 20 Seconds. I didn't check, but have to wonder how much more RAM 2.10 uses, leaving less RAM for actually accomplishing anything.

Edit: This post shortly before 2.10's release reveals the significant changes. Do you have a need for these? https://www.gimp.org/news/2018/03/26/gimp-2-10-0-rc1-released/

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thl04

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PostPosted: Tue 01 May 2018, 20:17    Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.10 AppImage (64-bit)  

mikeslr wrote:
These weigh in at about 65 Mbs, and open in about 20 Seconds.
I dunno if this might be relevant (I am just a linux beginner and ought not to be posting in an advanced region !) but first runs of Gimp in windows are warned to be slow at first run while gimp finds its bits&bobs, brushes etc, suggesting that it builds a ref.table (or some such thing) somewhere and that subsequent runs will be quicker, might this apply to Linux flavours also ?

I have only just now got gimp implemented in my puppy so have not done any test/comparisons
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PostPosted: Tue 01 May 2018, 20:20    Post subject: Re: Gimp 2.10 AppImage (64-bit)  

oops dupe (cant see a delete button Sad ? )
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PostPosted: Sun 06 May 2018, 16:28    Post subject:  

It appears to load faster the second time I use it. Laughing

I have solution for gmic plugins if you have trouble with these.

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?p=990962#990962

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