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Black Screen Upon Booting.....
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Aldroc

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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jun 2018, 12:50    Post subject:  Black Screen Upon Booting.....  

So yeah... I needed a persistent live USB as I don't have access to my laptop right now and needed to work off of other's systems and I figured Puppy would be the best. So I downloaded the 64-bit ver. of Xenialpup, and burned it onto a cd. I got into BIOS, changed the boot order and all and I figured I would be set but the only problem is... it doesn't boot. There is just a black screen.. nothing else. I bought a new cd and tried it, but it still doesn't work. I used standard Windows Disc Image Burner and I think it has burned properly(it looks like it anyway). And since I can't boot from the cd, I can't prepare the USB.... so I'm kinda in a pinch here. I'm currently on an HP laptop(if that matters) and may or may not switch systems(depends on situation). So I would love a bit of help over here... Thanks in advance! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jun 2018, 12:57    Post subject:  

In the BIOS boot order, is the CD on top (first on the list)?
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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jun 2018, 13:02    Post subject:  

It is 2nd... right after USB.. is that a problem?
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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jun 2018, 13:05    Post subject:  

CD drive functional?
perhaps try the 32 bit version of xenial pup burn it again....you are using Windows and a Windows program to burn the CD...it should be okay...boot the 32 bit and create the USB with the 64 bit Xenial....

totally black screen after the BIOS messages?
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Aldroc

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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jun 2018, 13:10    Post subject:  

rockedge wrote:
CD drive functional?
perhaps try the 32 bit version of xenial pup burn it again....you are using Windows and a Windows program to burn the CD...it should be okay...boot the 32 bit and create the USB with the 64 bit Xenial....

totally black screen after the BIOS messages?

Yup... The CD drive is functional
Also, will try that... Thanks for the help! Very Happy
And yes... completely black and nothing else...
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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jun 2018, 13:24    Post subject:  

see how it goes and let us know how you make out...we should be able to hammer out a working USB drive Xenial 64 bit..... I have seen the same before...just a blinking cursor....
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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jun 2018, 13:46    Post subject:  

Aldroc wrote:
It is 2nd... right after USB.. is that a problem?

If you have any USB drive or thumb-drive connected, with any kind of
OS on them, or if this USB drive is labelled "boot", the answer is yes.

Put your CD really on top of the BIOS list, as the very 1st device to
boot from.

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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jun 2018, 13:51    Post subject:  

rockedge wrote:
see how it goes and let us know how you make out...we should be able to hammer out a working USB drive Xenial 64 bit..... I have seen the same before...just a blinking cursor....

I burned the 32-bit ver. and tried to boot... but it's still the same. Just a black screen, not even the above mentioned cursor...
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musher0 wrote:
Aldroc wrote:
It is 2nd... right after USB.. is that a problem?

If you have any USB drive or thumb-drive connected, with any kind of
OS on them, or if this USB drive is labelled "boot", the answer is yes.

Put your CD really on top of the BIOS list, as the very 1st device to
boot from.

IHTH

Yup.. will do that Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jun 2018, 14:33    Post subject:  

First, need to make sure the CD is burned correctly.

Whatever burning program you use.
Make sure you are selecting burn iso image or something like that.
That will unpack the Xenialpup.iso and place it's contents on the CD.
When completed, you should see a bunch of files on the CD.

So, make sure that is what is on the CD.
Not the Xenialpup.iso

You can install Puppy to a USB flash drive by using Unetbootin program running in Windows.
https://unetbootin.github.io/

Most computers have an optional boot device screen you can access at bootup.
Just as it boots hold down F8 or F12 key.
(my computer it is F8.)
Release the key when the boot device screen pops up.
Should see a menu of devices to select to boot from.

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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jun 2018, 15:40    Post subject:  

I agree it must be the way the CD is being burned. when the CD is finished being burned open it and see if these files are on it.
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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jun 2018, 18:12    Post subject:  

this may be worth a look:
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=113527
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mikeslr


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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jun 2018, 19:31    Post subject:  

Hi Aldroc,

It's been a while since I last burned a Puppy ISO to a CD. But rockedge's post with screenshot reminded me that often Windows CD burning programs screwed things up. Linux is case sensitive and Windows programs sometimes changed the small letters used by Linux into Capital letters, e.g. puppy_xenialpup_7.5.sfs would be written as PUPPY_XENIALPUP_7.5.SFS. Or they did something else Linux didn't understand.

You used Windows Disc Image Burner. Suggest you try burning the CD with BurnCDCC which you can find here: https://yepdownload.com/burncdcc Unlike many CD burning programs it doesn't have many options. There's no chance of choosing the wrong settings. It does only one thing but does it well. It properly burns ISOs to CDs.

There were a couple other CD burner programs which used to be recommended. But, off-hand, I don't recall their names.

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PostPosted: Sat 02 Jun 2018, 22:50    Post subject:  

For Windows, I used to use DeepBurner. Never a dead platter.

SORRY, Wrong "Black Screen thread". Removed.

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Aldroc

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PostPosted: Sun 03 Jun 2018, 02:13    Post subject:  

The screenshot posted checks out.... there are multiple files in the cd and not just the iso. I will be checking out the various burning softwares specified. And i'm sorry but this:
8Geee wrote:
I did find some drivers in Slacko5.7

/usr/lib/xorg/drivers/ati_drv.so
/usr/lib/xorg/drivers/radeon_drv.so
/usr/lib/xorg/dri/r300_dri.so
/usr/lib/xorg/dri/radeon_dri.so

I have packed these up as a tgz zip file. Please refer to the pathways shown here or in the Read1st text file included.
When asked to extract, change the location according to the files above. It will either be

/usr/lib/xorg/drivers/
OR
/usr/lib/xorg/dri/

Regards
8Geee

went way over my head Rolling Eyes
Thanks for all the help!Very Happy
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