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darry19662018 · #421 Post by **darry19662018** » Tue 05 Jun 2018, 17:51

Hi Wanderer.

I went to Smokey's site and could not see your iso's listed.
http://smokey01.com/devs.html

Terry H · #422 Post by **Terry H** » Wed 06 Jun 2018, 00:09

darry19662018 wrote:Hi Wanderer.

I went to Smokey's site and could not see your iso's listed.
http://smokey01.com/devs.html

Smokey01 has done the setup, no iso's have been loaded yet:

http://smokey01.com/wanderer

wanderer · #423 Post by **wanderer** » Wed 06 Jun 2018, 02:25

thanks terry h

i couldnt figure out how to access the site

i'll post one as a trial this week

thanks again guys

wanderer

wanderer · #424 Post by **wanderer** » Thu 07 Jun 2018, 01:42

hi all

i have downloaded 3 isos to smokey01's site as a test
these are the 3 tinycore official isos that i began work on
they are

core 6.4.1
tinycore 6.4.1
coreplus 6.4.1

each is core or core + additional extensions

tinycore is now up to core 9
but everything that i have done can be applied to core 9 as well

if anyone wants to get a feel for the system
they can download these isos and play with them

i will now get the corepup iso ready
and load it as soon as it is ready

i think you will find this system is very elegant and powerful

as i have said merging puppy and tinycore
will make a system that capitalizes on the strengths of both

use the link in terry h's post above
since i haven't figured out how to put links in yet

cheers

wanderer

musher0 · #425 Post by **musher0** » Thu 07 Jun 2018, 02:11

Hi wanderer,

Thanks for the files.

CorePlus is at v. 9.0. Q.v.: http://www.tinycorelinux.net
Yours is at v. 6.4.1. Any particular reason for the lag? Easier to work with,
perhaps, from a Puppy standpoint? (This is not a criticism, I'm just asking.)

BFN.

wanderer · #426 Post by **wanderer** » Thu 07 Jun 2018, 02:48

good question

the difference in the versions is not relevant to the modifications
they can be applied unchanged to both versions

i work on both tc 6.4.1 and tc 9
but i have set up a more complete system on 6.4.1
since i have downloaded all the tcz i want for it over time

tc 9 has a newer kernel
thus will work on some newer hardware
some apps are updated
some scripts are tweaked
but they are essentially identical

that is the one of the wise choices tinycore has made
each version is just an improvement of the last
a continuous flow
things are not changed just to change things
if they are tested and proven to be superior over time
they are kept even if there is a newer version

also because of its modular design
applications can be swapped simply and easily
just by adding or removing a tcz (the equivalent of a puppy sfs)
they can even be added or not added
each time tinycore is booted
or when desired when tinycore is running

the core.gz ramdrive is only 6 megs
and can be opened and closed easily by cpio
and tcz are symlinked to it after it is loaded
it doesn't use a union fs

it uses busybox init
and a file tc-sysconfig which is equivelent to puppy's init file
all very simple
easy to access and modify
easy and straightforward to add to

play with and examine it
and you will soon see how well designed it it

wanderer

wanderer · #427 Post by **wanderer** » Thu 07 Jun 2018, 03:58

hi all

i have also downloaded the official tinycore version 9 isos
it is human nature to think a newer version is better
as i said i am working on both 6.4.1 and 9
and also worked on the versions between

if you compare them you will see they are equivalent
the same system
newer kernel
updated apps
tweaked scripts

when they are ready
i will download the corepup variants
for both tc 6.4.1 and tc 9
as i said the modifications are interchangeable

wanderer

wanderer · #428 Post by **wanderer** » Thu 07 Jun 2018, 04:02

musher0

if your looking for a project to play with
i could use the help
it would be appreciated

let us all work together for the common good

wanderer

wanderer · #429 Post by **wanderer** » Sat 09 Jun 2018, 15:22

hi all

another stupid question

i would like to put a link to the isos
like terry h has on his post
on the first post of this thread
but i dont know how

any suggestions would be appreciated

wanderer

fredx181 · #430 Post by **fredx181** » Sat 09 Jun 2018, 15:42

Hi wanderer,
You need to put the http adress between url tags like ....
So for your Core-6.4.1.iso replace the .... above with: http://smokey01.com/wanderer/Core-6.4.1.iso

BTW, don't know what browser you use, I use a modern firefox and it's easier to just select the http adress and click on the URL button above, then it's done automaticlly.

Fred

wanderer · #431 Post by **wanderer** » Sat 09 Jun 2018, 16:06

thanks fredx181

i use firefox

will try that

wanderer

wanderer · #432 Post by **wanderer** » Sat 09 Jun 2018, 17:25

success thanks fredx181

now back to working on my iso

wanderer

futwerk · #433 Post by **futwerk** » Sun 10 Jun 2018, 20:51

2 versions

wanderer · #434 Post by **wanderer** » Mon 11 Jun 2018, 01:04

wow futwerk

absolutely awesome

beautiful work

i will put them in the iso

thanks a lot

wanderer

nosystemdthanks · #435 Post by **nosystemdthanks** » Mon 11 Jun 2018, 01:29

fredx181 wrote:BTW, don't know what browser you use, I use a modern firefox and it's easier to just select the http adress and click on the URL button above, then it's done automaticlly.

these features are often sacrificed by people who speed up their browsing by turning javascript off whenever possible.

and lots of people forget the url tags since most modern forum software automatically converts urls-- sometimes doing a good job, other times using url tags produces a better effect (with long or complex urls.)

i understand that corepup is not just puppy minus extras? it has other things added to it?

wanderer · #436 Post by **wanderer** » Mon 11 Jun 2018, 02:34

corepup is a tinycore base
with modifications and puppy and other stuff added to it
hopefully combining the advantages of both

the reason is that tinycore
is a minimal and modular system
that allows modifications to be snapped in and out like leggos

puppy is great
but its system is difficult and time consuming to modify

especially with woof-ce
that takes a guru and many hours even to use

even the remaster programs take quite a bit of time
and lump everything together
so components are all intertwined
and cant be snapped in and out after they are meshed

corepup is for people that want a
simple and fast alternative to building a puppy like distro

components can be added and removed in seconds
rather than hours
and stay modular so they can be worked on independently
and reinserted later

thats why i started this project
so that the puppy community can be made aware
that there is an alternative system to build "puppies"
or whatever you want to call them

look at and play with one of the tinycore isos
in the link in the first post
and you will soon see what im talking about

well back to playing with corepup

good luck

wanderer

nosystemdthanks · #437 Post by **nosystemdthanks** » Mon 11 Jun 2018, 02:45

my apologies; i knew there was a tinycore-based pup, but i forgot it was called corepup. yes, it should be obvious...

congrats on corepup; i used dsl and was told about tinycore by robert personally. i think i heard of your tinycore pup a year or two ago, and its a great idea.

thats why i started this project
so that the puppy community can be made aware
that there is an alternative system to build "puppies"

cool!

AndresC2 · #438 Post by **AndresC2** » Mon 11 Jun 2018, 03:33

Hi Wanderer

"corepup is for people that want a
simple and fast alternative to building a puppy like distro"

Cool!

but where is corepup?
only tinycore-6.4.1 o 9 are in this link.

http://smokey01.com/wanderer/

good luck.

nosystemdthanks · #439 Post by **nosystemdthanks** » Mon 11 Jun 2018, 03:34

oh, i hope you make it by downloading tinycore and then running a script.

AndresC2 · #440 Post by **AndresC2** » Mon 11 Jun 2018, 04:50

Hi nosystemdthanks

I posting from tinycore-9 using dillo

but my tinycore-9 is from oficial repo tinycore.

but if I download tinycore-9 from http://smokey01.com/wanderer/

then this tinycore-9 come with a script for built corepup?

thanks.

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