Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

thinkpadfreak · Joined: 17 Oct 2016 Posts: 68

Hello.
I have been trying tazpup since Alpha 13.

I think tazpup sets hwclock in utc. On the other hand, windows assumes that the hardware clock is in local time.

I have some puppies installed on my PC in addition to windows, and all the puppies set hwclock in local time. The setting of tazpup affects the other puppies and windows.

As for tazpup, is it possible to choose between localtime and utc?

Regards.

mistfire · Joined: 04 Nov 2008 Posts: 1144 Location: PH

@thinkpadfreak for the meantime just delete the TZ file in /etc. type unset TZ in terminal and press enter. And use hwclock -l to set the system time to local only. Im trying to fix this system time problem.

Right now I will try to prepare the first beta release of TazPup.

thinkpadfreak · Joined: 17 Oct 2016 Posts: 68

mistfire wrote:
> for the meantime just delete the TZ file in /etc. type unset TZ in terminal and press enter. And use hwclock -l to set the system time to local only.

Thank you for response.
I suspect that, though the procedure above makes hardware clock equal system time, ntpd or something writes utc into hardware clock. As a result, system time is different from localtime.

I think that, if we have the file /etc/localtime, system time will be corrected. But hardware clock will remain in utc.

Anyway, I am looking forward to the beta version.

s243a · Joined: 02 Sep 2014 Posts: 1882

zagreb999 · Joined: 11 Apr 2014 Posts: 445 Location: Yugoslavija

this one works
tzclock_3.0.6-1_i386.deb

thinkpadfreak · Joined: 17 Oct 2016 Posts: 68

s243a wrote:
> Related to time, there should be something to set lets you set time from the internet.

Adjustment of the hardware clock by "ntpd" is OK, but the hardware clock has to be in localtime for the compatibility with Windows. Ntpd seems to set the hardware clock in utc, which causes a problem.

Edit:
In order to keep the hardware clock in localtime, one might either stop ntpd or, issue a command before shutdown such as:
# hwclock --systohc --localtime

zagreb999 wrote:
> this one works
> tzclock_3.0.6-1_i386.deb

Thank you for your advice.
However, my concern is not how to set the time zone correctly but how to set the hardware clock as we wish (localtime or utc).

mistfire · Joined: 04 Nov 2008 Posts: 1144 Location: PH

Tazpup Alpha 17 released:

* Improved system clock (puppy algorithm is now applied)
* utc and localtime can now selected on configure timezone

Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1FdWZvrfLwZM9-HXa_BNLfS_F09sUO_GA/view?usp=sharing

Build kit
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1N0tuuS2-HIk22_3DMblihje41-51Sxho/view?usp=sharing

thinkpadfreak · Joined: 17 Oct 2016 Posts: 68

I am using Alpha 17 under Japanese environment. The clock issue seems to have been mostly fixed.

One of the members in Puppy Linux Japanese Forum suggests a setting as follows:

/etc/daemons.conf
NTPD_OPTIONS="-nqp pool.ntp.org"

This way, ntpd quits after clock is set. (It does not run as a daemon) This setting seems to help prevent the hardware clock being re-written in the way we don't expect.

P.S.
urxvt does not function properly. Some commands cannot be executed, probably because it is a cut-down version.

s243a · Joined: 02 Sep 2014 Posts: 1882

mistfire · Joined: 04 Nov 2008 Posts: 1144 Location: PH

Hello there

Can you help me about this problem.

I noticed that pristine slitaz triggers /etc/init.d/rc.shutdown when going to shutdown or reboot while in tazpup does not but it is defined in /etc/inittab in both slitaz and tazpup. Any ideas how to get it work on tazpup?

s243a · Joined: 02 Sep 2014 Posts: 1882

s243a · Joined: 02 Sep 2014 Posts: 1882

So I couldn't figure out why I was deleting files and wasn't freeing up any space. After some time of incessant deleting I finally figured out all the files were being moved to:

/mnt/home/.Trash-0/files

The trick is to open /mnt/home/ as root. This option is available by right clicking the folder.

After one navigates to the above path, one must highlight all the items in the folder then in the edit menu (located on the menu bar) select "remove". This removed most files except for ldlinux.sys, basesfs.msh, blank.png, boot.msg, elp.msg, savefile.msg, startnet.msg.

s243a · Joined: 02 Sep 2014 Posts: 1882

You use to be able to right click on the desktop and select logout. This no longer work on TazPup Alpha 17. This is relevant, because sometimes when you install packages the taskbar disappears. I also noticed that if you logout by:

/etc/init.d/slim stop

that

/etc/init.d/slim start

doesn't restart the desktop. This isn't a problem to me because it makes sense to have logging in and starting the desktop as to separate functions. However, I need to know the command to start the desktop.

mistfire · Joined: 04 Nov 2008 Posts: 1144 Location: PH

Hello

I sucessfully make the slitaz shuts down like a puppy by redirecting /etc/rc.d/rc.shutdown output to /dev/tty1 instead of /dev/console. However it requires some refinements and tweaks to make got it work. Also I will try to get work it on non-acpi computers.

mistfire · Joined: 04 Nov 2008 Posts: 1144 Location: PH

TazPup alpha 18 released

Changes
* Overhauled shutdown (it works like puppy)
* Improved boot scripts
* Some tweaks on ntp (thanks thinkpadfreak)
* Some tweaks on shutdownconfig

Download: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Xa0awTVLMLtJ1JttXzd0oJvp8H-dzidv/view?usp=sharing
Build kit: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1HBgVlPMIviJxpd5obk2wJTVjtpfQHRve/view?usp=sharing

For SliPen Developers this latest build kit is highly recommended.