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XP Refugee
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#601 Post by XP Refugee »

eh, it was an old HP 16 gig someone gave me. Not so surprising I guess. I DID usta think they'd last forever, unlike tape where the coating wears off with each use and such.

Walter Dnes
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Pale Moon 28 beta works on Puppy 7.x

#602 Post by Walter Dnes »

Having gotten PM 28 beta building on CentOS 7.2 and working, I did some informal testing on various Puppy versions. On 6.3 and earlier Puppies, Pale Moon errored out about /usr/lib/stdc++.so.6 not having GLIBCXX 3.4.20. I assume this is due to the stdcxx-compat hack being depracated. On Slacko 7.0 (actually 6.9.9.9) and Xenial 7.0.6, Pale Moon works fine in the limited testing I did.

At Puppy 7.x, you're looking at 768 megs to a gigabyte of ram suggested for the Puppy OS to run comfortably. The 512 megabyte minimum ram size for Pale Moon should not be an issue if you're running Puppy 7.x (Xenial?) in the first place. SSE2 support will be required. See https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.ph ... 69#p142274 Note UXP == "Unified XUL Platform", which is Pale Moon's fork of Mozilla's XUL.

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#603 Post by watchdog »

I have tested working palemoon 28.0.0b2 in tahr64 6.0.6 and slacko64 6.3.2 which are the early 64 bit puppies I know.
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Re: Pale Moon 28 beta works on Puppy 7.x

#604 Post by darry19662018 »

Walter Dnes wrote:Having gotten PM 28 beta building on CentOS 7.2 and working, I did some informal testing on various Puppy versions. On 6.3 and earlier Puppies, Pale Moon errored out about /usr/lib/stdc++.so.6 not having GLIBCXX 3.4.20. I assume this is due to the stdcxx-compat hack being depracated. On Slacko 7.0 (actually 6.9.9.9) and Xenial 7.0.6, Pale Moon works fine in the limited testing I did.

At Puppy 7.x, you're looking at 768 megs to a gigabyte of ram suggested for the Puppy OS to run comfortably. The 512 megabyte minimum ram size for Pale Moon should not be an issue if you're running Puppy 7.x (Xenial?) in the first place. SSE2 support will be required. See https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.ph ... 69#p142274 Note UXP == "Unified XUL Platform", which is Pale Moon's fork of Mozilla's XUL.
I'll stick with 27 series - 512 meg ram thats pretty bad.

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#605 Post by Walter Dnes »

watchdog wrote:I have tested working palemoon 28.0.0b2 in tahr64 6.0.6 and slacko64 6.3.2 which are the early 64 bit puppies I know.
Interesting; 32-bit 6.3.2 doesn't work for me with PM28 beta. Please do me a favour;
  • Open a new tab in PM28
  • Go to URL "about:buildconfig" (without the quotes)
  • As text, copy+paste the the output, and post it here
I know that the output looks like gobbledegook, but it does make sense. I want to dig into this deeper, and check where my 32-bit test build differs from the 64-bit build. And hopefully get a 32-bit build that works under Slacko 6.3.2

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#606 Post by watchdog »

Walter Dnes wrote:Please do me a favour;
  • Open a new tab in PM28
  • Go to URL "about:buildconfig" (without the quotes)
  • As text, copy+paste the the output, and post it here

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Build platform
target
x86_64-pc-linux-gnu
Build tools
Compiler 	Version 	Compiler flags
/opt/rh/devtoolset-7/root/usr/bin/gcc -std=gnu99 	7.3.1 	-Wall -Wempty-body -Wignored-qualifiers -Wpointer-arith -Wsign-compare -Wtype-limits -Wunreachable-code -Wno-error=maybe-uninitialized -Wno-error=deprecated-declarations -Wno-error=array-bounds -flifetime-dse=1 -fno-strict-aliasing -ffunction-sections -fdata-sections -fno-math-errno -msse2 -mfpmath=sse -pthread -pipe
/opt/rh/devtoolset-7/root/usr/bin/g++ -std=gnu++11 	7.3.1 	-Wall -Wc++11-compat -Wempty-body -Wignored-qualifiers -Woverloaded-virtual -Wpointer-arith -Wsign-compare -Wtype-limits -Wunreachable-code -Wwrite-strings -Wno-invalid-offsetof -Wc++14-compat -Wc++1z-compat -Wimplicit-fallthrough -Wno-error=maybe-uninitialized -Wno-error=deprecated-declarations -Wno-error=array-bounds -flifetime-dse=1 -fno-exceptions -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-rtti -ffunction-sections -fdata-sections -fno-exceptions -fno-math-errno -msse2 -mfpmath=sse -pthread -pipe -g -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer
Configure options

--enable-application=palemoon --enable-update-channel=unstable --enable-jemalloc --enable-default-toolkit=cairo-gtk2 MAKE=/bin/gmake --disable-accessibility --disable-crashreporter --disable-eme --disable-gamepad --disable-necko-wifi --enable-official-vendor --enable-optimize=-O2 --disable-parental-controls --enable-strip --disable-tests --disable-webrtc --with-branding=application/palemoon/branding/unstable --with-pthreads --x-libraries=/usr/lib64

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#607 Post by Walter Dnes »

Thanks. I'm doing an experimental build right now. I see a few differences in the parameters. I don't know which ones are significant.

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#608 Post by Walter Dnes »

I think it's a problem at my end. An extension that works with the official 64-bit build doesn't work with my homebrew build. Hopefully, there's an official 32-bit beta soon.

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#609 Post by quirkian2new »

Does anyone have a copy of palemoon v27 beta1 or beta3 (32bit) ?

I googled but failed to find a copy. I want to download and make use of it for some special reason (I already have 64bit version but dont have 32bit version) .

Thanks.


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Re: Pale Moon 27.9.4 available

#611 Post by Walter Dnes »

Version 27.9.4 is available for downloading. This is a security/stability update. The release notes are at http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml

Instructions for getting the mainstream release are at http://linux.palemoon.org/

The SSE-only build for Pentium3-class machines is available at URL ftp://contrib:get@ftp.palemoon.org/SSE-Linux/ Since the SSE build is not the mainline build it has to be installed manually as per instructions in the first post of thread https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=13530

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#612 Post by Walter Dnes »

Some time ago, I mentioned that PM 28 didn't build on stock CentOS 6. CentOS 6.10 was released approx a month ago https://blog.centos.org/2018/07/release ... nd-x86_64/. There is also a separate EPEL (Extra Programs for Enterprise Linux) addon that updates the build toolchain https://copr.fedorainfracloud.org/coprs ... toolset-7/ E.g. instead of the native gcc-4.7.4 it runs gcc-7.3.1. The EPEL update is for the entire build toolchain, of which gcc is just one part.

Net result is that I've successfully built PM 28 beta 5 on CentOS 6.10 and done some compatability testing on it. Using a modified CentOS 6.10 build environment pushes the PM 28 compatability frontier back versus CentOS 7.2. Note, the following results are for MY BUILD VIA MY CENTOS CHROOT The final official 32-bit build may differ.

First, what doesn't work. Lucid Puppy (5.2.8.7) doesn't launch. Slacko 5.3 on Youtube; missing h264 support; "fullscreen" doesn't work; it's unstable and freezes a lot; 5.3 is not recommended.

Slacko 5.4 and upwards seem to work fine in the little testing that I've done. I don't know if 5.3/5.4 Wary/Racy are equivalant to those versions in Slacko.

PM 28 beta 5 does not have GPU acceleration enabled, so I had to dial down the resolution on Youtube. Since this is beta, some stuff may change before the official release.

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Pale Moon 28.0.0 released

#613 Post by Walter Dnes »

Pale moon 28.0.0 has been released. Release notes are at http://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml

Beware that 28.0.0 changes profile format. This is one-way, and you can't go back to 27.x with the modified profiles. If you want an escape hatch back to 27.x, back up the

".moonchild productions"

directory first, and restore when returning to 27.x. Preliminary testing indicates that PM 28 works as far back as Slacko 5.4. This would rule out Slacko 5.3 and Lucid (5.2.8.7). Sorry, no SSE-only version.

Distros should have updates soon. If you want to install from the tarball, see http://linux.palemoon.org/download/mainline/ Make sure that you select the proper version
32 bit ==> x86
64 bit ==> x64

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#614 Post by watchdog »

Palemoon 28.0.0 works in my frugal installs in precise and slacko 5.3.3 without tweaks. I have built a package glibc219tweaked for wary and racy which I have summarily tested working. I propose it for your testing:

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No go for me in lucid e puppy4.

EDIT: palemoon-28.1.0-glibc219tweak.pet for wary-racy:

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EDIT2: palemoon-28.2.1-glibc219tweak.pet:

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EDIT3: palemoon-28.2.2-glibc219tweak.pet:

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EDIT4: palemoon-28.3.0-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QjtL6j ... sp=sharing

EDIT5: palemoon-28.3.1-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1RrysZ- ... sp=sharing

EDIT6: palemoon-28.4.0-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1IsurVz ... sp=sharing

EDIT7: palemoon-28.4.1-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1E3iCvK ... sp=sharing

EDIT8: palemoon-28.5.0-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xhJ9X- ... sp=sharing

EDIT9: palemoon-28.5.2-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1dWzOf7 ... sp=sharing

EDIT10: palemoon-28.6.0-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jzDKUG ... sp=sharing

EDIT11: palemoon-28.6.1-glibc219tweak.pet:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/19At749 ... sp=sharing

EDIT12: sorry I uploaded a wrong version of palemoon-28.6.1-glibc219tweak.pet. I have reuploaded it.
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jss83

#615 Post by jss83 »

The updater will no longer work I guess, this was one of the reason I kept using palemoon, it was easier to install/update/remove. Time to leave palemoon.. :?
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#616 Post by ntamas »

The Linux installer shown on the image is an old version.
Last actual linux installer version: (Latest version): 0.2.4.
But this is also unavailable, see the original but error message link now.
https://linux.palemoon.org/installer-release-notes/

Install the new v28 version manually, before you retrieve the old version's profile directory, then install the new version with a completely clean installation.
Sorry, bad englis ..

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#617 Post by norgo »

ntamas from skami linux forum ?

welcome ;-)

jss83

#618 Post by jss83 »

You mean manually like shown here? http://linux.palemoon.org/help/installation/

I am pretty sure I'd mess up the whole thing, this is why I always used the installer. I am just going to use the current version which I have installed as long as I can without any problems. Looking for alternatives already.

I don't know why would they remove the installer when it was working perfectly, even if the new version would update itself. At-least let the installer be used to install/update to latest version.

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#619 Post by a_salty_dogg »

jss83 wrote: I am pretty sure I'd mess up the whole thing
There's nothing to it (even I can do it! :wink: ).

Just download the tarball from here, making sure you choose the correct version for your OS (32 bit or 64 bit), then extract it over your existing Palemoon directory, normally to be found in "/opt".

If you're replacing the directory with another one of identical name, it shouldn't affect any existing menus, desktop links, or launch buttons you have set up.

Though in this one case it sounds like, before updating to version 28.0.0, you firstly need to copy your existing config directory, to be found at "~/.moonchild productions", to a different safe location (possibly also do the same with the Palemoon directory to avoid having to find and download it again if needed). Otherwise you'd never be able to revert to a 27.x.x version with all your personal settings intact if you ever wanted or needed to.

Note that the browser needs to be closed while performing any of the above copying operations.

Whole process only takes a couple of minutes!
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#620 Post by rockedge »

yes it is easy......I renamed /opt/palemoon to /opt/palemoon-27

then downloaded the tarball extracted to /opt and that's it.

all the menu and defaultbrowser icon work still.

I didn't even save/copy the /root/.moonchild productions

the installer program will not work anymore and is deprecated

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