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How to suppress boot messages?
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Pete


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PostPosted: Wed 27 Apr 2016, 13:10    Post subject:  How to suppress boot messages?
Subject description: And stop the barking
 

Hi all

Anyone know how/where to suppress all those messages whilst Puppy is booting up?

Ideally I would like to see logo.16 at first then screen can go blank until X has loaded.

Thanks.
Pete
(Slacko 6.3 32 bit)
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Apr 2016, 15:22    Post subject:  

Never mind, completely forgot about kernel boot options.
Loglevel fixed it.
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Pete


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PostPosted: Wed 27 Apr 2016, 16:55    Post subject:  

Ooops no, loglevel=0 made hardly any difference.
How does one suppress all those messages like loading xxx.sfs.....DONE and so on?

Ah and also, that ridiculous barking?
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Apr 2016, 17:13    Post subject:  

I don't know the answer to your questions but it might help if you told us which version of Puppy and how you're using it -- boot from CD with Save file, frugal install, full install on hard drive etc... Also, perhaps something about the hardware.
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Apr 2016, 17:19    Post subject:  

Flash wrote:
I don't know the answer to your questions but it might help if you told us which version of Puppy


In my original post (Slacko 6.3 32 bit)

Flash wrote:
and how you're using it -- boot from CD with Save file, frugal install, full install on hard drive etc...


booting directly from iso on USB stick.

Flash wrote:
Also, perhaps something about the hardware.


Surely that has no bearing as it should be the same across all compatible hardware?
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Apr 2016, 17:34    Post subject:  

Very Happy Hello,
/usr/share/audio/2barks.au
/usr/share/audio/2barks.wav

As for the boot logging, you could leave it at a splash, but why?
Nice to see any boot errors before they become a problem.

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Pete


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PostPosted: Wed 27 Apr 2016, 17:41    Post subject:  

Hi puppyluvr

puppyluvr wrote:


As for the boot logging, you could leave it at a splash, but why?
Nice to see any boot errors before they become a problem.


I agree and I always leave them on for me, but they are very intimidating
for a typical Windows user.

The less they see of all the "Linux -speak", the more chance of them giving it a try.

You won't believe how many Windows types see all that text flying by and are immediately put off.
Keep in mind that in the Windows world, you see nothing unless you select safe mode and 99% of users don't even know it exists.

puppyluvr wrote:

/usr/share/audio/2barks.au
/usr/share/audio/2barks.wav


Thanks, I nuked the whole lot.
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Apr 2016, 19:32    Post subject:  

Pete wrote:
I agree and I always leave them on for me, but they are very intimidating
for a typical Windows user.

I disagree. I bought a laptop for $20 that came with Lubuntu and it just hanged at a black screen for about a minute before the desktop appeared, which made it seem broken, and many would not wait that long to know if the laptop was working or not and just throw it in the trash bin. Replacing Lubuntu it with Slacko fixed it. Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Apr 2016, 19:33    Post subject:  

Pete wrote:

The less they see of all the "Linux -speak", the more chance of them giving it a try.


Well spoke!
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LazY Puppy


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PostPosted: Wed 27 Apr 2016, 20:32    Post subject:  

Quote:
The less they see of all the "Linux -speak", the more chance of them giving it a try.


As far as I can say, the only way to suppress the boot messages is to edit the init script in intrd.gz plus some more files like: /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit and /etc/profile in the puppy main sfs. Probably there are a few more...

Search those files for >/dev/console or even > /dev/console and change it to >/dev/null.

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Apr 2016, 21:39    Post subject:  

Hi, pete.

Careful with those log level messages. If you ask for more verbose, your /tmp/xerrs.log
file will fill with megs of useless messages in no time, and if you specify less verbose,
Puppy may jam (it needs a minimum amount of message logging to operate properly).

Just saying (from experience, actually; although I'm not at the level of "Lazy_Puppy"
or "puppyluvr").

IIRC, the error-level log (verbosity) is defined only once for all the Puppy operations.
Whether it be for checking the boot-up or when playing xemeraldia (a game).

If I may suggest an air-head solution (I have my moments!): if you don't like those
messages... don't look at them?! Smile Look elsewhere?

BFN

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Apr 2016, 22:27    Post subject:  

Quote:
You won't believe how many Windows types see all that text flying by and are immediately put off.

This is Linux not Windows.
If they can not or will not understand that simple fact.
They do not need to use Linux.

That is not the only thing in Puppy that is not like Windows. Shocked

That windows 10 does not look like Windows 3.1.
I do not want to use it.
Come on!! Shocked Rolling Eyes

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She shifted from 1st to 2nd and into 3rd gear.
She asked me:
"You have to do that every time?"

I guess I should of said:
"No, only when you want to."

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PostPosted: Wed 27 Apr 2016, 22:37    Post subject:  

There are Linux distributions that cater for the crowd that doesn't want to know what's going on under the hood. Puppy was developed by an artist who likes to tinker with what's under the hood, so Puppy gives a lot of feedback and Puppy runs as root. That's why I like Puppy. But I can see why the boot-time messages might be off-putting to someone who's just trying Linux for the first time.
There should be a middle way, not a screen that stays blank for a whole minute, but not a constant flood of cryptic and alarming messages either. Perhaps something like the bouncing cursor that says a program is working, so just be patient.
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Apr 2016, 22:48    Post subject:  

Sometimes in BIOS there is an option to display a splash-screen. Quiet boot is the option to use (enabled= splash-screen).
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PostPosted: Wed 27 Apr 2016, 23:51    Post subject:  

Ok.

I gave this a quick shot. Tested in tahr 6.0.2 - was just a three minutes task. This post has taken some more minute after completion and re-reading it for typos.

As suggested above I had edited the init script in intrd.gz plus /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit in the puppy main sfs.

File /etc/profile does not have /dev/console.

Searched those files for /dev/console and change it to /dev/null.

Here is what appears on the screen when booting:

- the dots, when it searches for puppy files (incl. 'done')
- message about gtk-icon-cache (the full line as usual)
- messages from 'xwin' flashing very short before X appears on the screen.

Currently running this testing tahr 6.0.2 and am posting from it!

However:

To replace all /dev/console by /dev/null is NOT recommended as -at least- those messages like 'kernel panic' or 'sfs not found, dropping out to console' and similar error messages should be kept as echoed to /dev/console - otherwise you will not see anything, if something's going wrong!

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