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Posted: Sun 01 Feb 2009, 11:42
by ttuuxxx
ok WhoDo its up now claws-mail-3.7.0-html-Cal-v2.pet <--- with the v2
I'll just continue my theming during the next release also :) I find the small icons they use are too small, like 16x16 with spaces around the images, 24x24 would look so much nicer. anyways I don't want to hold progress up, enjoy, also made it default mail this time :)
ttuuxxx

Posted: Sun 01 Feb 2009, 11:57
by pa_mcclamrock
WhoDo wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:Option 2 Claws mail + Html + Calendar plugin 1.7MB
claws-mail-3.7.0-html-Cal.pet
What tha' heck! Let's go the whole hog and install the full 1.7Mb!
Yes, indeed! And does the Calendar plugin also have a Contacts feature? If so, maybe it would be possible to dump Osmo 0.2.0 (650 KB), which is pretty limited in functionality compared to Osmo 0.2.4 (or whatever Osmo is up to now). For the later versions of Osmo (I've read) you need D-Bus, which would be really hard to squeeze into Puppy, would slow the system down, and overall would surely not be worth it.

Just be sure to make the Alpha3 ISO bootable, OK? I really want to try it out!

David McClamrock

Posted: Sun 01 Feb 2009, 12:39
by WhoDo
pa_mcclamrock wrote:Just be sure to make the Alpha3 ISO bootable, OK? I really want to try it out!
Done and tested ok. Not uploading tonight, though. Too tired. Gotta work early tomorrow. I think I'll turn in for the night :idea:

Posted: Sun 01 Feb 2009, 12:40
by WhoDo
01micko wrote:I need some test reports.Please :roll: . Is the analog clockfix for Pwidgets ok? I'm thinking so, better than the 'clickallovertheplaceandannoyyou' fix. Anyone?
Not working here, but I may have missed a step in the install process. I'll revisit tomorrow evening when I'm a bit fresher. :?

Posted: Sun 01 Feb 2009, 12:43
by WhoDo
ttuuxxx wrote:ok WhoDo its up now claws-mail-3.7.0-html-Cal-v2.pet <--- with the v2
Had a look at p1 and can't see a v2 version of Claws-mail. I'll look again tomorrow when I'm not quite so tired. Thanks for pushing so hard on this, Jeff. It is very much appreciated. 8)

Cheers

Posted: Sun 01 Feb 2009, 12:52
by 01micko
WhoDo wrote:
01micko wrote:I need some test reports.Please :roll: . Is the analog clockfix for Pwidgets ok? I'm thinking so, better than the 'clickallovertheplaceandannoyyou' fix. Anyone?
Not working here, but I may have missed a step in the install process. I'll revisit tomorrow evening when I'm a bit fresher. :?
Thanks for some feedback! :)

Posted: Sun 01 Feb 2009, 12:53
by ttuuxxx
WhoDo wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:ok WhoDo its up now claws-mail-3.7.0-html-Cal-v2.pet <--- with the v2
Had a look at p1 and can't see a v2 version of Claws-mail. I'll look again tomorrow when I'm not quite so tired. Thanks for pushing so hard on this, Jeff. It is very much appreciated. 8)

Cheers
No problem here's the link, I guess I forgot to hit submit
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... h&id=14553
ttuuxxx

Posted: Sun 01 Feb 2009, 14:35
by zigbert
Congrats with the first alphas.
I have made some brief testing, and looked through some posts on the forum. It VERY active around here.

HairyWill is right. The deepthought-jwm_tray package contains files (and scripts) like Globicons which overwrites existing. It must also be somewhere in another package and should be replaced in its origin location. There are 3 reasons why I packed it all together.
1) Easier testing on running systems.
2) I don't want to behave like a maintainer of all these scripts.
3) I don't know in what package they belong.
I have only tested the Deepthought package in an already installed Puppy. It will not be the same as buildning an iso. This is not my field, but if there are specific issues that still are not solved, I can do some digging. All my experience during the work with the DeepThought desktop has been put in the MAIN post of the forum thread 'Puppy 4.2 - Desktop and artwork'.

I'll go through all the news in Pwidgets, and release a new version.

Hopefully I can put my Puppy-energy into Pburn and Pmusic. JakeTake has also pointed a fix for Pschedule. There are issues that should have been solved until the stable Puppy 4.2.

- Thank you for a black rxvt
- If the clock skin is meant to be like the one in alpha2, it's no bug, but else you have not used the xonclock that was packed together with Pwidgets. In my opinion my skin fits better the outfit of the rest of Pwidgets (and it is much smaller too).


Sigmund

Posted: Sun 01 Feb 2009, 19:50
by Minnesota
ttuuxxx

:D :D
TWO Thumbs UP!!!!!
Thank you for the Pets... made life easy to load and test the printer.

Found it is necessary to set manually for default printer... not big, but will confuse some new folks.. all seemed right, but pressing print key in word processing, it went to to generic default printer, not newly assigned printer until I specified it as the default.

Did not try all options, printer prints test page in color, so all seems good. Cusp displays jobs active etc.. so all seems well.

Ran in first Alpha, will be happy to retest ver 3 :)

Great work all of you guys... neat!!!!

P.S. In Yuma at the moment, seems half of Canada and Ontario here.

pps. How do you respond to a msg with old message in new one?

Posted: Sun 01 Feb 2009, 21:33
by ttuuxxx
Thanks Minnesota glad to see things going uphill for puppy now :)
ttuuxxx

Posted: Mon 02 Feb 2009, 05:42
by ttuuxxx
GFTP

compiled and added the latest Gftp, the old one in the repo which wasn't that old was 231kb pet, The one I did today I managed to get it down to 152kb a savings of 79kb, not bad :) Thats like 3 parcellites, lol.
Plus it has a real nice default Tango theme, its no longer ugly
I noticed it had bookmarks, so I checked it out, WOW to my surprise there were tons of great direct FTP bookmarks, excellent!!!!
But hmmmm (LightBulb Goes on :idea: ) I figured that hey wouldn't it be nice if puppy linux repo at ibiblio.org and puppylinux.ca were in the bookmarks, hmmmm so I added them, but they were on the bottom of the list, well that won't do!!! So I edited the bookmarks file and place Puppy Linux on Top, where it should be :wink: So now if you want to get the unleashed tree, or latest release, its just a couple of clicks away. :)
enjoy ttuuxxx
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Posted: Mon 02 Feb 2009, 06:20
by Pizzasgood
Minnesota wrote:pps. How do you respond to a msg with old message in new one?
You mean like I just did? You use the quote button. On each post there's a quote button in the upper-right, which will bring up the reply window with the entire post quoted. If your reply is just to a portion of a long message (as in my case here) you can trim out the excess. Just make sure you don't accidentally remove the [ quote ] tags at the beginning and end, and don't alter the message, just trim it.

Another method is to hit "reply", and then copy-paste in the message you want quoted. Then highlight it and click on the button above the textarea that says "Quote" and it will add the quote tags for you. Or you can put them in manually.

WhoDo wrote:There doesn't appear to be any option on building for the file to be "renamed" - your createpuppy script always creates the isolinux.cfg file.
Yeah, createpuppy makes an ISO, so it uses isolinux.cfg. If you then boot that iso and run the universal installer and install to USB, it should automatically put syslinux.cfg onto the USB drive (assuming it's a vfat partition, otherwise it should use extlinux.conf, but I haven't tested that myself). They are all take from the same file, it's just renamed and then the final line is appended. I know you have a lot to take in, just trying to help.
zigbert wrote:HairyWill is right. The deepthought-jwm_tray package contains files (and scripts) like Globicons which overwrites existing. It must also be somewhere in another package and should be replaced in its origin location.
That would be the rox-filer package. WhoDo can go into the packages/ directory of Unleashed and run this command to track down any duplicates:

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find . -name "globicons"
It will return more than one, but some of them are in other rox-filer packages that aren't being included (there are several versions in the repo). Just worry about the ones that aren't in rox-filer packages.

If this was already stated somewhere, sorry. I haven't read this whole thread. I just kinda skimmed through it.

Posted: Mon 02 Feb 2009, 06:47
by WhoDo
Pizzasgood wrote:
WhoDo wrote:There doesn't appear to be any option on building for the file to be "renamed" - your createpuppy script always creates the isolinux.cfg file.
Yeah, createpuppy makes an ISO, so it uses isolinux.cfg. If you then boot that iso and run the universal installer and install to USB, it should automatically put syslinux.cfg onto the USB drive (assuming it's a vfat partition, otherwise it should use extlinux.conf, but I haven't tested that myself). They are all take from the same file, it's just renamed and then the final line is appended. I know you have a lot to take in, just trying to help.
No problem. I like to know these things so they don't bug me when I can't work them out! :P
Pizzasgood wrote:
zigbert wrote:HairyWill is right. The deepthought-jwm_tray package contains files (and scripts) like Globicons which overwrites existing. It must also be somewhere in another package and should be replaced in its origin location.
That would be the rox-filer package. WhoDo can go into the packages/ directory of Unleashed and run this command to track down any duplicates:

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find . -name "globicons"
It will return more than one, but some of them are in other rox-filer packages that aren't being included (there are several versions in the repo). Just worry about the ones that aren't in rox-filer packages.

If this was already stated somewhere, sorry. I haven't read this whole thread. I just kinda skimmed through it.
Heck, don't apologize Jeremy! That's a great tip for someone like me who would otherwise be inclined to manually search through each package directory to find out why my changes in one place were being overwritten in another. 8)

Posted: Mon 02 Feb 2009, 10:09
by cthisbear
WhoDo :

I have only used Puppy 4.2 Alpha 1 so far.

Mostly pretty smooth etc.

But I hate that top bar...menu whatever.

One thing I would really like is that m4a play
straight away. That's Apple format ...right.
Because it's a real pain to play those files.

Ironic that many Windows use Apple.
I made it work with Gxine....but chasing that
icon to drop in is stoneage.

No offence. Great things hoped for and achieved here.

Chris.

Going to PM you.

Posted: Mon 02 Feb 2009, 12:06
by HairyWill
cthisbear wrote:But I hate that top bar...menu whatever
you are at least the second person to express a dislike for it. Maybe it should include an option to turn itself off. Having the top tray means that jwm is out of sync with icewm. The functionality could be replicated in the icewm buttons or quick launch (apologies if I got the name wrong).

Posted: Mon 02 Feb 2009, 12:28
by ttuuxxx
As The Top Bar Goes, I never used it, It doesn't bother me at all, But I have no need for it, some might, I guess I'm neutral. Doesn't bug me if it stays or goes, or finds its way into a quick launch on IceWM & JWM. Or Like how we had at one time, enable, disable Conky in the menu, could do the same for the menu bar, have it disabled by default and click in the menu and it turns on and stays enabled on next reboot, until its shut off again. That would be easy to do in IceWM with the start up script, just have 2 of them. Or even a pet package with it in it, say placed in root and people could just install the pet.. Or we could could put it on the 3rd tab of the shutdown menu, LOL kind of reminds me of the clash song 'Should I stay?, Or Should I go?'
ttuuxxx

Posted: Mon 02 Feb 2009, 13:47
by zigbert
Optional Ptray

I guess if someone could add the option in the 'JWM confuguration' gui it would be very simple. /root/.jwmrc calls the original .jwmrc-tray file before it calls Ptray (.jwmrc-tray-top). If the last line is removed from /etc/xdg/templates/_root_.jwmrc, Ptray is gone after a fixmenus.

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<Include>/root/.jwmrc-tray</Include>
<Include>/root/.jwmrc-tray-top</Include>
But after all I don't see the problem since it's not visible. If you don't use it, you don't see it. - And it should not bother you :?


Sigmund

Posted: Mon 02 Feb 2009, 14:31
by Minnesota
Pizzasgood
......
Another method is to hit "reply", and then copy-paste in the message you want quoted. Then highlight it and click on the button above the textarea that says "Quote" and it will add the quote tags for you. Or you can put them in manually.
Thank you, one time I saw a quote on a post, don't know where... but I am in other operating system and Firefox, if that makes any difference, and with tri focals am either blind or just can't see. I managed to get copy past to work... so thank you very much. Not sure I am using correct reply your note implies a button.. I use the button on the bottom of the entire screen to log in.... Sorry for these basic questions... kind of new to blogging :))

Greg

OK must be timing issue... now that I sent msg, I see quote button...

Posted: Mon 02 Feb 2009, 19:37
by Caneri

Alpha 3

Posted: Tue 03 Feb 2009, 12:08
by Minnesota
Seems to be broken items in ALPHA 3.
This version not seeing wireless network on an IBM laptop.
Pet for gutenprint did not give message of completion
Pet for cups seems to load, menu item exists but gives 404 error
Icons for all devices on the desktop
Tried to add weather to widgets never showed, even after x-restart
:(