(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

DaveS wrote:Mark, do you think it might be possible to get Simple Mail to work? That would then be moving toward a very lightweight browser/mail app.

No, PuppyBrowser is a simple pure Gtk Application.
Simple Mail is a Firefox addon using the special firefox framework (XUL I think).
It is not possible to use extensions in PuppyBrowser, that's the price for the reduced, small backend.

Mark

Michalis wrote:If you want any more details or anything to test tell me.

thanks for your report!

PuppyBrowser is using a profile called "MU" from Seamonkey for the default settings.

You may test this, please:
run seamonkey.
When it starts, it should show the selection of a profile, "default" and "MU".
Choose "MU".
Then try if you can reproduce the errors there.
If yes, try to change language or font settings.
If that fixes your issue, exit and start PuppyBrowser.
Maybe it works correctly now.

Mark

Mark,

Bookmarks -> Manage Bookmarks -> Tools -> Export bookmarks creates an html file. Rather than trying to use the bookmarks in /root/.mozilla/ and so forth, it seems to me that it would be simpler to use that file. Also, I believe other browsers create the same sort of file to use for backing up and importing/exporting their bookmarks, so it would be a more general solution.

MU wrote:run seamonkey.
When it starts, it should show the selection of a profile, "default" and "MU".
Choose "MU".

It doesn't ask me anything. Also I went to: tools --> Switch Profile, and has only the deafault one, no MU.

I'm using seamonkey and puppy browser which come with 430 small. I'll try to find the MU profile in the system and copy it to the profile folder of seamonkey and report back.

Michalis wrote:

MU wrote:run seamonkey.
When it starts, it should show the selection of a profile, "default" and "MU".
Choose "MU".

It doesn't ask me anything. Also I went to: tools --> Switch Profile, and has only the deafault one, no MU.

I'm using seamonkey and puppy browser which come with 430 small. I'll try to find the MU profile in the system and copy it to the profile folder of seamonkey and report back.

So maybe it was left out, when Barry repackaged it for Puppy 4.3.
I must check this in detail later.
You could start seamonkey, and then create a new profile "MU".
Tools - switch profile - manage profiles - create profile.

I had used this e.g. to modify the
preferences - appearance - fonts.
There I had replaced all fonts with "Deja vu Sans", so instead of serife fonts you see sans-serif, what I prefer on a monitor.
Modifying the font settings you quickly can verify, that PuppyBrowser really is using that profile from seamonkey.

Mark

I made the MU profile. Now seamonkey asks me, when I open it, which profile I want. I symlinked the folder MU to /root/.puppybrowser/ .All the fonts in the MU profile are Dejavu Sans.

I think that don't bother at all, must be stupidity of hotmail (is it strange since it belong to microsoft?). I didn't notice such behavior in other forums and yahoo that I tested.

Any way just for the record, the problem with the accents is happening also in seamonkey with both profiles and is selecting the same letters accented in translated to greek words of the page. I mean words like: mail, reply, index and others. Of course strange behavior but is other problem of hotmail (most likely) or seamonkeys' library.

The other problem with the capital letter "Σ" looking as "Ζ" is happening only in puppybrowser and only in hotmail. My opinion is don't bother fixing it, except if you have more reports about it.

ok Michalis, thanks for checking it.
I will not be able to fix this.
Puppybrowser is a grafical interface built around the seamonkey code to display websites (using "gtkmozembed" to include it).
So that code is like a "black box", I can include it, but I cannot modify it.

A solution might be, to use instead one of the alternative gecko-engines.
On the first page with the downloads I added a link to "xulrunner". This is a different implementation of that code, maybe it does not have those issues.

I will not check this on my own, as the way this code is included (using gtkmozembed) is outdated, and Seamonkey 2 no longer supports it.
So instead it might be better, to focus on the webkit engine (from KDEs Konqueror/Apples Safari) instead.
But at moment, I have no time for this.
Also it would mean, that Puppybrowser will no longer be part of Puppy, because webkit is pretty huge.
So I am not certain at all, if there is a future for Puppybrowser.

On the other hand, Seamonkey 2 seems to have an improved performance, and so might make lightweight-solutions like Puppybrowser obsolete.
see first test results:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=46952

Mark

Hi mark I came across a small wysiwyg program that uses firefox or mozilla, ie. its not a plugin so it probably would work on seamonkey and your browser. The thing is that I think it was made on widows, when you load it up, it starts but there's a small error, when you look at the error its basically looking for C drive. It does look somewhat simple to fix and would be a great addon, because it does do css and html. The best part its only 400kb so the size is great. here's a link if you would like to look into it.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/pweditor/
ttuuxxx

Found an ultratiny htmlviewer script (1.2 kB):
http://kmandla.wordpress.com/2010/05/24 ... er-script/ It uses webkit and python- so not so tiny in he end, but if you have them installed anyways then the size of his script is unbetable.
Original site here:
http://www.tuxradar.com/content/python- ... 20-minutes

HTH, Christian

Hello,
I am trying to find a very basic/simple html reader/viewer (without any tool or search bar, even previous and next buttons) to let user display program help files (for example). I tried all what is possible to try following links of this thread... but didn't succeed in making anything work properly: Something is always missing or defective

The 1.2Kb python browser script mentioned by zenfunk seems to be very interesting but I don't know exactly how to install/make it work.
Could someone give me some help? (Puppy Racy 5.3)

Cordialement!

Argolance wrote:a very basic/simple html reader/viewer (without any tool or search bar, even previous and next buttons) to let user display program help files (for example).

Why not take that?
See it in action with
menu > setup > CUPS Printer > Do you want to add a new printer? > Yes

Hello L18L,
Thank you!
This is exactly what I am looking for and didn't know such a tiny browser was already present in Puppy! But where? What is the name of this application?

Cordialement!

Sorry, I found it: basichtmlviewer!
Thanks.

basichtmlviewer will launch
- /usr/local/PuppyBrowser/PuppyBrowser
or
- /usr/bin/surfer

Thank you!

Hello,
=> This very tiny browser called "Links" is very interesting too...

Cordialement.

Yes
and this would be even better if it worked
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 485#652485

I uploaded version 0.6, this is a pet containing binaries for puppy-sap (the puppy for the Raspberry Pi).

The sourcecode is included, too. it can be compiled with:
I made some changes to the sourcecode, so that it can be compiled in Vala 0.12.
The funcionality is the same as in version 0.5, there just might be a bug in tab-handling now, but I'm not certain. Will investigate this in the next two weeks on holiday.

The pet also contains "Kompozer" in /usr/local/PuppyBrowser. It is 26 MB extracted.
While the Web-Editor Kompozer itself segfaults on my Raspberry, the included files can be used as an old mozilla based browserengine embedded in Puppybrowser. So you need no additional Seamonkey or Xulrunner to run Puppybrowser on the Raspberry Pi.

Kompozer is actually the only remaining browser offering the "gtkmozembed.so" library in Debian Squeeze (The system Puppy-Sap is based on).

I can open many tabs in Puppybrowser, while Google Chrome gets very slow with several tabs open (even on my 512 MB version of the Raspberry).
Puppybrowser has no support for https and HTML5 though, so for some websites you still will need a newer browser like google chrome.

Download (PuppyBrowser and Libgee):
http://dotpups.de/puppy-sap6/dotpups/Internet/


Sidenote for porting:
if someone wants to turn the pet into one for other architechtures, you can compile libgee-0.15 and Puppybrowser, and then replace Kompozer with the binaries available for your system.
http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/sources/ ... 1.5.tar.gz
(./configure --prefix=/usr && make && new2dir make install)
There are also pets around for this libgee.

Note that in /usr/local/PuppyBrowser/kompozer/lib/defaults/prefs/all.js this line 575 must be commented, or you cannot click on links in the browserengine:

before: after: Mark

This pet 0.6 also works in "Zap6", the Debian Wheezy based Puppy fpr Raspberry Pi (http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=79786).
The only thing you need in addition is this deb (Download and click on it to install it):

http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/armel ... d/download

I actually run zap6 with the default start.elf, so I just have 128 MB, and PuppyBrowser works quicker than Iceape (Seamonkey).

Mark

Hi Mark !
seeking for a tiny and fast browser (esp. .swf files):
got success trying to run Puppybrowser-0.5.pet on wheezy-3.5.2.5 (having firefox installed),
installing:
- Puppybrowser-0.5.pet
- sfs4 converted PuppyBrowser02-seamonkey-1.1.8-no_mailnews_412.sfs and renamed to PuppyBrowser02-seamonkey-1.1.8-no_mailnews.sfs
- libgee_wheezy-0.1.5-i386.pet (libgee-0.1.5.tar.gz downloaded somewhere in this thread, and compiled on wheezy-3.5.2.5)
- libgtkembeddedmoz.so + libxpcom.so +libxpcom-core.so copied from a compatile version of kompozer)perhaps from herehttp://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... e0212a8d1a
and to allow the present libflashplayer to display shockwave-flash .swf files using seamonkeys stuffs
- (*) libnss3-1d_3.12.8-1+squeeze6_i386.deb from debian squeeze repo
+ symlink /usr/lib/libnss3.so to /usr/lib/seamonkey-1.1.8/libnss3.so
- libnspr4-0d_4.8.6-1_i386.deb from debian squeeze repo (maybe no necessary...)

(*) maybe also try symlink to existing libnss3.so to /usr/lib/firefox/libnss3.so, as also for libnspr4.so; but not sure as seamonkey asks for version 3.12 ...?

puppybrowser is fast and tiny but needs some more MB-sized-
libgtkembeddedmoz.so and -PuppyBrowser02-seamonkey-1.1.8-no_mailnews.sfs ...


cheers, charlie