Posted: Sun 14 Mar 2010, 15:50
All fixed. See no data loss. Thanks to everyone.
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As I described before, there are deliberate on-going attempts to exploit systems where Norton AV protection has expired. Avast! is reasonable protection, but far from foolproof. I've seen one system which was clobbered on which it was up-to-date and working. I'm not sure I'd depend on any single company for protection, if my business depended on running Windoze.obxjerry wrote:I'm still writing back after a quick read through My son blamed all of this on his Norton AV expiring and going to free Avast on my recommendation (it runs faster). His old machine is now being stored as a spare. He's using mostly Puppy and some Ubuntu...
Because even modern versions of Windoze support enough old programs to inherit vulnerabilities. Support for older versions was dropped because it was uneconomical. Both systems you mention are extremely vulnerable.Our ME and 98se machines are going to lose their ability to connect to the internet while running W*****s. There just isn't enough virus protection for them. If their AV doesn't work with the old OSs why are they vulnerable to the current viruses?
On Windoze systems you absolutely, positively must have a firewall, and the one that comes with the factory version is very poor. On Puppy, I use the default firewall all the time, unless I need to turn it off to set up a network.The plan is evolving for the 2 remaining 2 XP machines. I can see that they will be unsupported, out-dated systems in the near future. We are new to Linux and we were already using box stock Puppy 95% of the time. I do see Linux users use firewalls so firewalls are in my future.
I don't know exactly what you've done, but I would bet on there being something in the boot block. You may also have a floppy which has been infected, but not formatted. When you scan for malware, enable any option to scan boot blocks. If you boot a separate system and scan from that, you completely avoid risks to your Windoze system. That's why we use things like that Avira Rescue CD.It still is in my mind that I should be able to find the virus on the floppies. Is that possible? Is there a safe way to do it? I did see there is a bit of data on a floppy that normally is not written over but can carry a virus. So, what they are saying is a formated floppy is still not completely safe.
The big problem with the old systems is that you can't update Firefox past 2.x (which is no longer supported by many sites).obxjerry wrote: Our ME and 98se machines are going to lose their ability to connect to the internet while running W*****s. There just isn't enough virus protection for them. If their AV doesn't work with the old OSs why are they vulnerable to the current viruses?
Yup. Some of the newer tools do a fair job of keeping the registry in order, but eventually the only solution is to scrub the system and do a fresh install (or to restore from your backup that you made, shortly after you did your last reinstall ).Hugh wrote:What an incredibly interesting discussion!
All of us who've used Windows have experienced
very similar mysterious 'crashes.' While our first
inclination is to believe we've been infected with
some dread virus, in truth, such crashes are in
fact nearly 'normal' for Windows.
I always called it "Windows Inertia". It accumulates "mass" until it simply cannot move...As Windows is used it slowly 'grows' and accumulates
numerous odds and ends that it eventually is
unable to sort out and goes 'berserk.'
To keep you in practice, by continually reinstalling the OS?...Many believe it is all part of the 'design.'