(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

raymondjackso25 wrote: is there a thread that explain how to install the things like icewm cuz that doesn't work either.

this needs updating
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/WindowManagers

raymondjackso25 wrote: Can somebody walk me through the installation of enlightenment.

I think Enlightenment may require you to be using Xorg rather than XVESA. You can change that using the Setup X Video Wizard.

heres the thing, ive downloaded a big file from the enlightenment site, and some other things that it says to download with it. I just don't know where to unpack all this stuff, how it works or anything.

I made a Dotpup especially for Puppy, please read the first message.
Mark

im using enlightenment in puppy2.01... i noticed that the menu or icons on the left is not updated... how can i edit them? thanks...

the menu:
To add own entries:
left-click on desktop, Puppy -> E16 -> menueditor.

To update the imported Jwm-menu:
left-click on desktop, Puppy -> E16 -> reload Puppymenu

To edit the icons:
left-click on desktop, Puppy -> E16 -> MU-e16-tools -> edit iconbar.

Mark

wow... everything was made so easy... thanks for the work! just have a question... when im trying to maximize a window it will only extend at the bottom of the epplets and not cover the whole screen... how can i fix this? also i cant find how to change the color of the title bars...

Middle-click -> Settings -> window-placement-settings -> ignore struts

Alternatively right-click the title-bar -> remember
That will remember size and position of the current window, when you restart.

I think colors can not be changed easily.
You can switch Themes with a middle-click.
But to customize a theme, you would have to edit it in a texteditor.

/root/.enlightenment/themes/Winter2-p/colormodifiers.cfg or so.
Unfortunately that is solved different in some themes, so you must try to examine these files yourself.

Mark

ok.. thanks for the replies... just wondering... in my 1028x768 resolution, the icons are somewhat large... is there a way to make them smaller by not changing the resolution?

E 17 - not soon.
I had a cvs-version last august.
It still missed several things, and was quite huge. (40 MB stripped down and without themes, packed!).

And one thing I don't like so much, is that it is based on binaries.
Every configfile is a binary, so you need a tool to modify it.
Then in the enlightenment-news you read again and again that the menugenerator (...) is no longer compatible with the current cvs-snapshot.

Maybe this has become better meanwhile, but I don't see enough advantages yet.
Animated titlebars are cool -ok, but that was the only thing that really makes it different from other desktops. And scalable epplets are nice - but no "must have" for me

Currently I even use Jwm more often than e16, it is just so fast and practical (form follows function - taskbar + some tools in it).

Mark

To scale the icons, you would have to edit
/root/.enlightenment/ibar

But as I made them themable, you would have to scale down several pictures, too.
The default-pictures are in
/root/.enlightenment/ibar/ibarimages/deskbuttons

But some themes use their own ones.
Originally they were just part of one theme (aztekr2000), I added some symlinks and class-definitions then to the other themes, so that this iconbar can be used by them all. Was kind of tricky...

But you can hide them with a middle-click on the first small button on top of the screen.

Mark

ok... thanks for the help... sorry for editing some my questions... i thought it just so silly to ask... thanks again!

no, that's not silly
It is important to communicate experiences/ideas someone has.
There are meanwhile so many programs for Linux, that I easily loose overview.

Often I just see new ones, because people talk about them in boards

time to go asleep now...

Mark

here i go again....

how can i remove the icon bars? the one that sticks to left side of the desktop?

middle-click on the first button on the screen to hide them.

To disable it, rename the folder
/root/.enlightenment/ibar
to
/root/.enlightenment/ibar--

Then middle-click -> maintainance -> purge all caches
and start another theme to activate the changes.
Mark

i have another question...

can i also see the freememapplet on the enlightenment? the one thats being used by jwm? or are there any other options or epplets? and is there a website or faq somewhere that list what the epplets do? thanks...

no, I think they don't work.
You can start the enlightenment-epplets with left-click -> epplets.
Be shure to have OpenGL installed, if they don't start
http://dotpups.de/dotpups/XServer/DRI/OpenGL-B.pup

To find more, google for "e16 eppletts", but I think there are not many more.

If they should look "broken" (strange colors), write again please.

Mark

I'm stoked to have enlightenment, thanks. I had seen it a while ago and liked it.

I'm unable toget the epplets to work. I followed the suggestions in the short thread on just this from a few months back, and the preceeding suggestions as well (openGL, openGL-B, and adding and using the startenlightenment script, but when I call from the menu I just get no response, thouoghj I have seen it crash my whole computer a few times - I think when I called the clock epplet from the command line - didn't try others yet.

Any ideas?
Running Puppy 2.01 with a number of additions but nothing removed.
Thanks
fitzhugh

Ok, had assumed it was no longer missing it cause I'd added the openGL pups as suggested but running from console gets:

sh-3.00# E-Clock.epplet
E-Clock.epplet: error while loading shared libraries: libGLU.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
sh-3.00#

not full crash like I remembered. That was before adding openGL-B I think. However, still missing libGLU. Not clear on how to get libs (I assume that meanslibraries - let me know if wrong) that aren't in a pup or get, though clearly they are cause it works for others. Do I need to find and compile them or are they something that can be dropped in place?

Thank you
Fithzugh

--added: I also am unable to find the .get Mark refers to in the other thread for adding libGL.

try
xwin startenlightenment

If you don't have startenlightenment (did I miss to add it?), create it yourself:

Save it as
/usr/bin/startenlightenment

and make it executable with this command:
chmod 755 /usr/bin/startenlightenment

Does this fix your problems?
Mark