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Running the new Alpha on my Pi. Unlike all the other distros I have tried, this one works with my (ath9k_htc) wireless usb.
This is brilliant as the router isn't in my room and it's been a major hassle getting online!
thanks Barry.

Barry

First off you have done a fantastic job with the Alpha versions so far. Alpha 3 is working nicely. Here are a few suggestions that maybe should be in the default install or be very easy to install.

Have an SSH daemon available on the Pi that would allow ssh, scp and ssh -X from a remote (more powerful machine) I think dropbear would suffice?

Install the omxplayer because it shows off the power of the Pi's GPU (mp4 graphics accelerator)

Very Holly Grail -- Consider linking up with the Raspbian developers to have a future Puppy that takes advantage of the "Hardware floating point processor"
and the OPENssl assembly optimizations. [
http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewt ... =66&t=8433
among others.

Questions: I am running Puppy from /root on an external USB drive to improve performance. I also have a swap partition on the external drive, how do I make Puppy use it?

I modifed the cmdline.txt to /dev/sda1 which then uses /root on the USB external drive. It would be nice if there where a way to have the cmdline.txt wherewithal ask which device has the /root and swap partitions (probably not possible?). I plan to boot three ways exclusively from the SDHC card, have /root & swap on a USB stick and finally with /root & swap on an external USB spinning/SSD drive. Modifying the cmdline.txt file would work to switch between these boot options but is not very elegant.

Regards, Ron

Alpha 3 looking great.
On 1st bootup waited over two minutes at "recognising media devices ... optical input."
I rebooted without mouse (Standard wired type) and it booted fast. Popped in mouse and it instantly recognised it.
Connected to wired internet no problem. The odd second or so freeze when browsing the net.
Nice one Barry and others..

The sound problems are going to be awkward. Can anyone give me an idiot's guide to the story so far? I don't seem to have alsa working.

HDMI in alpha 2
- working for some (with some break up)
- noise from HDMI monitor but not recognizable (that was my condition)
- no sound from HDMI (Barrys monitor)

HDMI in alpha 3
- not working for me at all now for HDMI, even when changing settings in config.txt
modprobing etc
- sound from headphone socket is the new default for alpha 3? If so I have not tested

Hi Guys

First boot up = slow
Known
being addressed by Barry in Beta 1
Second boot up was way too fast . . .[if such is possible] however I may have had part of Puppy in memory, after a quick restart, so will report again after a few more boots.

Firewall symbol lost on iconbar (it was present in alpha 2)
New audio mixer not running from command line

On menu there is a GTKaria (I think that is right - under graphics) that is not working Alpha 2 and 3 - never heard of that before . . .

Which programming languages are in devx? Not tried in any SAP.

Sorry to hear woof not yet producing SLR - the better drivers would make a difference, same for a Puppi based on Arch

My initial impressions of Alpha 3 were of improvements in the internals (something I am not able to gauge as well as others)

It may interest you to know I was able to produce a pie (or pi) chart in gnumeric. Beautiful and useful piece of software.
Invaluable for documenting your ARM powered cyber k9's
or other plans

I make use of notecase (under personal). Working well.
This kind of support structure makes Puppy versatile.

Being kind to trees - we all need friends - I am largely paperless. Unable to test Cups. Any more feedback?

Anyone planning on plugging in phones, ipads, USB hardrive (own power supply), tablets? I am in the future [so to speak]

Our first general purpose PARM (Puppy on ARM) is here.
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/PARM

Amazing.

I wrote a little gui for setting the sound to auto/analog/HDMI.

Should make it super easy. The radio buttons reflect the current state.

My sound (analog) was working ootb, still, anything played through aplay is no good.


NOTE: this will not display if the sound module is not loaded! (will show an error in terminal)

01micko wrote:I wrote a little gui for setting the sound to auto/analog/HDMI.

Thanks micko!

By the way, my Python / Pygame pet does work. I just hadn't been thorough enough about dependencies. It requires: libpng, libjpeg (dev versions) and the dev versions of the sdl elements (sdl itself, mixer, sound, image, ttf).

Python Arm pet

I may re-compile in the new Alpha, just for kicks!
mark

Hi,

I got a new problem with alpha3, not being able to use german keyboard layout.
In Quicksetup I select No matter I restart X or reboot, typing in a terminal allways shows no change. I guess that it's us keyboard layout.
Restarting Quicksetup again shows de-latin1. I can change it to de, but running again, it shows again de-latin1 (and in terminal still us layout)

Firewall setup:
I get the message: Sound is per default analog. No prolem to hear mp3 with PlayMusic. Sound is good but with "scratches" about every 30sec., more or less. Maybe of interest, after a song is finished, PlayMusic allways try to play the next file. If this is a avi or mp4 movie, MPlayer opens and plays it (more or less).

No problem to change sound to HDMI (even during playing a song ), no scratches. So for normal usage, HDMI seems to be the best for me.

Will test gmome mplayer, gxine, omxplayer, pi_subsound_set, sws and more, soon.

@rrolsbe
IIRC Puppy detects all swap partitions and mounts it, but i don't know the order it uses these partitions. With alpa2 I just deleted the swap partition of the sd card and Sap6 automatically used the swap partition of the usb hd. You can also unmount a swap partition via command line, but I haven't tested in Sap6 and don't remember the command .

More later,
Rolf

rrolsbe wrote:Questions: I am running Puppy from /root on an external USB drive to improve performance. I also have a swap partition on the external drive, how do I make Puppy use it?

You find a variable in /etc/rc.d/BOOTCONSTRAINED that you can comment-out. Though, that will also cause the swap partition on the SD card to load.

So, I recommend run:

# dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/mmcblk0p3

to wipe the swap partition on the SD card.

Lobster wrote:

The sound problems are going to be awkward. Can anyone give me an idiot's guide to the story so far? I don't seem to have alsa working.

HDMI in alpha 2
- working for some (with some break up)
- noise from HDMI monitor but not recognizable (that was my condition)
- no sound from HDMI (Barrys monitor)

HDMI in alpha 3
- not working for me at all now for HDMI, even when changing settings in config.txt
modprobing etc
- sound from headphone socket is the new default for alpha 3? If so I have not tested

Please read the Release Notes.

There is a script that runs at bootup, /etc/init.d/11alsa_raspi that sets sound to the analog output.

Change the properties of that to non-executable then it won't run at bootup. Or, edit it to set sound o/p to HDMI.

Thanks Barry - I was focussing on getting Python / Pygame installed, but I will use your instructions to get the sound to go via HDMI.

Great work by the way! I am a very happy Puppy!


I've posted on the RPi forum about the success with my wireless dongle.
I know the editors of the MagPi magazine pretty well (I did an article on Scratch for them last time). They seem pretty focussed on Debian at the moment. But I am going to try to persuade them to do something on Puppy soon.
mark

New audio mixer not running from command line

Ignore the idiot crustacean (that would be me)
Too many arms and not enough neurons.

The Mixmos s running just not doing anything useful so far . . .
About to try Micko's sound GUI pet - pretty cool to have pets (Barry produced some but did not test them) Sorry

Puppy second boot is pretty speedy (by the time I have found the remote and turned on HDMI TV I am in Puppy - no pseudo sudo passwords required)

Puppi Linux
Rock and Raspberry Roll

Barry

What about /etc/init.d/11alsa_raspi reading a config file? Say.. /etc/rapsi_alsa.conf? Default could be "0" or "1" or "2" or whatever the consensus is and my little gui could be used to change that.

just a thought.

@Lobster, when you fire up that gui, the default should be the "Analog" option radio button. If analog (headphones or external speakers) work for you leave it else try out the other 2. HDMI doesn't work for me, but I think it's the el cheapo gear I have. I might plug in my raspi to the 40" Samsung, (when wifey is at work on Sunday )

Mick the the GUI locked up my Pi
now all my icons are gone. (fixable)


The HDMI worked (well sound of raspy static - not actual sound) for me but not analog or auto
- the pet is in setup
gonna reboot and try to run from command line for better feedback.

found your pet code in
/usr/sbin/pi_sound_set.sh

in case anyone else wants a look

Now that you guys have this long experience of using RPi.

Was it true that you needed to buy new kind of Sd cards that the old ones
where the wrong type and that the new ones are special kinds of SD
that maybe is not sold everywhere and have to be bought online from some
other country?

What is referred to SD anyway How big are there? Those I have already
in my many Smartphones are like the nail of a thumb or so.
Say 14mmx10mm and can be put into an adapter that is maybe 23mmx30mm
One SD I have is named Zap microSD 512MB could that then be not compatible being too old and slow?

nooby wrote: One SD I have is named Zap microSD 512MB could that then be not compatible being too old and slow?

"micro" is no good, need the standard SD size. Sure, there is an adapter but that I see as another bottle neck. We try to avoid those .

Are you getting a raspberry pi nooby? If not you can test with qemu. There is a nice "howto" by our friend jamesbond .(See the "How To" section)

Edit; there you go! Link in below post.

rrolsbe wrote:Have an SSH daemon available on the Pi that would allow ssh, scp and ssh -X from a remote (more powerful machine) I think dropbear would suffice?

See here, second post.

buy new kind of Sd cards

The Rpi Foundation recommend Class 4 and above (10 is the highest)
If no class number it will probably not work.
Barry recommends Class 6 as a minimum and I would agree.
Even the same brand of Class 4 can be temperamental.

The Rpi Foundation or someone who gets through a lot recommends Transcend brand SD cards.

As far as I am concerned all SD cards are overpriced and not as reliable as solid state devices should be. However I do not hear complaints from phone and camera users? Are we stressing them more?
Barry is trying to minimise their read writes.

Lobster wrote:Barry recommends Class 6 as a minimum and I would agree.
Even the same brand of Class 4 can be temperamental.

The other thing is that the different releases (due to firmware I guess??) work with different ranges of cards.
Puppy and Arch work on cards that the Debian Squeeze release will not tolerate.
I believe the way to go is to move the filesystem to a usb flash drive (or equivalent) and alter the commandline text file accordingly. This is how I do it with my Arch set up (using a USB3 Kingston Elitestick).

So far I am running Puppy off a card, but I might splash out on another high-speed usb flash stick thingy.

@ Lobster - if you are in the mood for some pets, this does work, but getting the "deb" - endencies in place might take a while!

antiloquax wrote:Here's a link to my Python and Pygame pet. You'll need tcl and tk plus dev versions of sdl, sdl-image, sdl-mixer and sdl-ttf, linpng, lipjpeg, smpeg. In the Debian repos they are listed as "libsdl" whatever.

Python Arm pet

mark

And here's a little test program, if you want to see if it works.