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Lite

but no Browser.but being live that is kind of futile one lose it
when one reboot.

rokytnji, Lite is too light for me

I tested Antix and it did not allow me to mount the HD.

But the sad thing is that Debian varieties are very much at it
with protecting the user in ways that one need to be very good at
understanding computers for to use Debian at all if using a Live distro
in frugal install on a NTFS HD.

And some 90 % of all sold home computers are NTFS
and you need to be very good at resizing the NTFS
for to do full install. And one need Ms Win for to upgrade
the Smartphone and you need it for games that does not exist
on Linux and for ID Certification when you show IRS who you are
and Bank may use such Certification that does not work on linux.

Sure one can buy two computers and use one for linux?

Or boot using USB or to switch out the HD and use another Hd
in it's place but very few ordinary users that are not into Linux
would do such things.

My former work mate is better at using computers than what I am
and he still has not tested Linux despite me have nudged him
since 2006 and despite Linux rescued him when ms win acted up.

So I feel very concerned about the way Debian and it's varieties
treat the majority of computer users. They force us to do full install.
That is not nice behavior. Both Knoppix and Puppy and Slax show
that one can do frugal installs on NTFS. Not ideal but it works.

try Minino root-pass: minino
or maybe Leafy-Linux

Minino works using isobooter on USB
but the Midori does not have a modern version
of Adobe Flash so youtube and local TV refuse
to show videos.

those distros that works on isobooter
and does have working adobe flash
AFAIK MintLXDE, Solyd Linux, Solus linux,
Zorin Linux, ChrunchBang linux.
Which of them to prefer have no idea
so I keep all of them just in case

I installed the 64 bit version of Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail on my
intel imac.
It is booting either OSX or Ubuntu from the hard drive + I can also
boot a puppy live cd with a save file on a partition of the hard drive
or a SDHC card.
This 64 bit version is fast!

Billtoo wrote:I installed the 64 bit version of Ubuntu 13.04 Raring Ringtail on my
intel imac.
It is booting either OSX or Ubuntu from the hard drive + I can also
boot a puppy live cd with a save file on a partition of the hard drive
or a SDHC card.
This 64 bit version is fast!

Is intel imac very different from MacBook Pro?

Hideho has a thread where he ask how to get Puppy
booted on his machine. Maybe your success can help him?

link to his thread none has suggested any answer.
Macbook Pro / grub 2 errors -any ideas
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=85875

Lubuntu 13.04 ......as far as I can tell the last official buntu to still fit on a cd.

http://lubuntu.net/

Can someone help me understand SystemRescueCD?
How does one look into sda1 using the file manager
it ask for some kind of command. What can that be about.
Could it be root and toor or whatever?

I made a frugal install on NTFS HD

SystemRescueCD is based on Gento
which is rather big OS I downloaded it from Sourceforge?
You can read about it at several places.
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distri ... stemrescue
http://www.sysresccd.org/Download

I took the grub4dos from their own text
but had to change it a bit.

here is their original?
title SystemRescueCd from hard-disk
root (hd0,0)
kernel /sysrcd/rescuecd subdir=sysrcd setkmap=us
initrd /sysrcd/initram.igz

But I could not find any rescuecd file but instead found
rescue64 and rescue32 and guessed them had same purpose
and my computer is 64bit so I ended up like this for sweden.

title SystemRescueCd from the NTFS disk
root (hd0,0)
kernel /sysrcd/rescue64 subdir=sysrcd setkmap=se docache
initrd /sysrcd/initram.igz

But being lazy I copied these file out to the Dir and did not let them
be in their original subdirs like isolinux
so if you are less lazy add a subdir there
and see if it works.

Midori but now Adobe flash .

Just installed Mageia 3 RC, the open source successor of Mandriva. It looks good but I haven't figured out yet how to add any software to it.

I've also installed Descent OS recently, which used to be based on Ubuntu 12.04 and is now based on Debian though with the MATE desktop. It's a lot like Mint but with different, somewhat darker colour scheme and decorations. Seems to work well but I'm not sure yet what advantages it offers over "vanilla" Ubuntu.

Can I get a hot tub!?



http://arpinux.org/livarp/help_center/index.html

http://arpinux.org/livarp/index.html

No, I haven't tried it yet. Antix 13 beta 3 came out today instead and testing reinstalls are gonna take up my time.

http://antix.freeforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=4299

quote

what is livarp ?

livarp is a DEBIAN-based distro.

livarp try to take the best part of available Debian GNU/Linux applications without loosing accessibility or design.

special attention was paid to the documentation and livarp-help-center to let you discover the easiest way these 9 window managers.

livarp can handle PIII with 128M ram but is better with a PIV and 512M ram. higher config are just bonus .

livarp is a GNU/Linux distribution based on Debian squeeze and built with the Debian Live project.
livarp is available in iso9660 (format cd) Live/Installcd or img format for usb use.
made by arpinux : contact@arpinux.org
95% free (conky, some firmwares and flashplugin for the last 5%)
light, fast and stable: livarp is based on Debian Squeeze, one of the most stable distro atm..
anynoob-inside livarp is made for every user that can read and want to discover alternatives window-managers.
9 sessions available from live to install: vtwm, dwm, echinuswm, awesomewm, evilwm, pekwm, wmfs, fluxbox and compiz stand-alone.
livarp-xs-maker, this script transform your livarp in livarp-xs (mono-session) by removing all unneeded sessions.
livarp help center, a complete documentation available locally in your distribution including all the on-line docs.
composite management with xcompmgr and transset-df.
no graphical session-manager: your session is launched by startx, then a clean zenity dialog window appears to let you choose your session.
auto-mounting handled by udisks-glue with dzen2 notifications.
gnome-network-manager for network-management.

/quote

Tell me the result if you ever try it

Could someone help me accessing the HD in RescueCD Linux
They say it is a very easy to use linux. Sad me so dense then. I fail

You are not supposed to install it.
It is a live RESCUE CD. Doh!

Adagio wrote:You are not supposed to install it.
It is a live RESCUE CD. Doh!

But they do say that one can install it.
They even give detailed instructions and
code for both grub4dos and Grub2

What they think users already know is to mnt a HD
That is the knowledge I miss. On Linux Mint
I don't have to know if I use Isobooter on USB

So it could have to do with such considerations.
But they say they have done their best to make an easy to use distro
http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distri ... stemrescue
quote
It aims to be very easy to use.
/quote

I installed Ubuntu 13.04 + Gnome 64 bit version.
It is running well on an Acer desktop pc with an intel i3 processor
and 6 gb ram.
It takes a few minutes learn about using work spaces etc, but
it's interesting.

Colonel Panic wrote:Just installed Mageia 3 RC, the open source successor of Mandriva. It looks good but I haven't figured out yet how to add any software to it.

I've also installed Descent OS recently, which used to be based on Ubuntu 12.04 and is now based on Debian though with the MATE desktop. It's a lot like Mint but with different, somewhat darker colour scheme and decorations. Seems to work well but I'm not sure yet what advantages it offers over "vanilla" Ubuntu.

thanks for making me curious on that one. I first used Isobooter
and booted it from an USB and that failed on my Compaq 64 machine
Maybe I should have used compatibility mode it maybe failed to get
the drivers for the graphic going.

So me thought that Debian can boot on HD using grub4dos so why not try?

I gave it this code borrowed from their isolinux example.
I had used puppy for to open up the iso and then copied out the live directory
to the HD and it booted just fine in compatibility mode but the screen is slightly off
to the right but no big deal.

And the best news despite this being a absolutely frugal install on NTFS
it actually save edited HTML files without needing any su or sudo.
Not even root Surprise indeed.

The only bad part is that the Adobe Flash is too old for the local TV station
and too old for BBC have not tested CNN so don't know.

How do one set up permanence in this debian? Would be cool to be able
to update the adobe and have it as an alternative to knoppix?

Wow indeed. That is really surprising. Don't tell the developer that he
has changed from the very strict rules of Debian never allowing what it do here.

I trust next version will fail like the other debians do except Pussy Linux

nooby wrote: I tested Antix and it did not allow me to mount the HD.

So I feel very concerned about the way Debian and it's varieties
treat the majority of computer users. They force us to do full install.
That is not nice behavior. Both Knoppix and Puppy and Slax show
that one can do frugal installs on NTFS. Not ideal but it works.

and so does antiX.

Did you use grub4dos to boot antiX frugal on NTFS hard drive like you did with Descent OS?

If you use grub, it will give the error you got, but even with a bit of tinkering, you can run antiX frugally on your ntfs partition. I'm doing it now for testing purposes.

I don't remember now how I tested it.
I trust that I told how I did it. Should I find the post?

Most likely I used Isobooter and that one
work with LMDE wich also is Debian based.
crunchBang that also is Debian based and
none of these needs tinkering and Descent
needed no tinkering either.

So if I want to test a frugal install on Antix
what code for grub4dos do you suggest me to use?
I am on Sda1 and NTFS yes.

Edit I used the search in my signature
but fail to find it. Maybe it is in Isobooter
thread.

Anti not criticism at all. I just describe what happens
when a total idiot like me just try things out and some
distros just works and otehrs need so much tinkering
that not even the developer of it share what one are to do
on this forum?

If it was that easy then why not just tell it right away
for all the others that also want to have it working that way?

It worked for me way back in time I where active on your forum
and got very happy that it worked on a netbook and now I am on
64 bit Desktop and it totally fails.

I did a fresh download of Antix this iso
antiX-13-beta3_x64-full.iso (668MB

So any link to or a quote of how one set it up frugal on NTFS
would be nice. I have it on my old netbooks but have no access
to them now.

One big problem most likely is that all Debians?
have live directory. Can I have code like this

title antiX-13-beta3_x64-full.iso (668MB
root (hd0,0)
kernel /antix/live/vmlinuz boot=live

so I separate it from the already installed

title descent
root (hd0,0)
kernel /live/vmlinuz2 boot=live live persistent username=descentos hostname=descentos union=aufs locale=en_US.UTF-8 keyb=sv noprompt quiet
initrd /live/initrd2.img

nooby,

I just played around in Virtualbox and installed Puppy 5.5 Slacko frugal to sda1 (ext3) with grub4dos as boot loader. I then created an ntfs partition sda3 and on it a folder called antiX with the files found in /antiX folder ie linuxfs, initrd.gz and vmlinuz.
I then edited grub4dos menu.lst on sda1 to this for antiX

title antiX on sda3 ntfs
uuid (for sda1)
kernel /antiX/vmlinuz bdir=antiX bdev=sda3
initrd /antiX/initrd.gz

This doesn't have persistence set up, yet. But it is to show you how antiX does run on ntfs partitions.

If you already have grub4dos it is as simple as the above.

Thanks much appreciated.

Success but that is surprising because
when I tested on the USB then it failed?
I test that again tomorrow maybe.

Lucky it works for frugal install on NTFS hd sda1
and it allow me to edit a file and save it too

I changed your code to
title antiX on sda1 ntfs
rootnoverify (hd0,0)
kernel /antiX/vmlinuz bdir=antiX bdev=sda1
initrd /antiX/initrd.gz

And that booted all my attempt using uuid failed.

Now I need to find how to get to the sda1
any suggestion? I need to go to bed within some ten minutes

Ah one use the tool Files that is on Desktop
and change to /live/boot-dev/ and that show the Hd sda1
with all my music files so I test that now report result
keep your breath