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Posted: Wed 20 Feb 2008, 07:29
by oli
There is still a problem with the xorgwizard. My hardware isn't recognized properly by Puppy Dingo (and the older releases, too. I hoped this could be fixed in Dingo) so I use Xvesa. But Xvesa doesn't know the German special characters (like ä ö ü ß) although I had choosen the German keyboard layout. So I had to edit Xmodmap. This is not the best way so it would be good if Xorg would work for me.

In the meantime I tested a live CD of PCLinuxOS. This distro uses XFdrake and recognizes my hardware very well. Perhaps you could add XFdrake to the xorgwizard. Below you will find the content of the file xorg.conf of my PC created with PCLinuxOS (I cannot show the content of the file created by Puppy because xorgwizard crashes and doesn't create this file):

# File generated by XFdrake (rev 57713)

Section "Files"
# font server independent of the X server to render fonts.
FontPath "unix/:-1"

# minimal fonts to allow X to run without xfs
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc:unscaled"
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
Option "Composite"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
#DontZap # disable <Crtl><Alt><BS> (server abort)
#DontZoom # disable <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> (resolution switching)
AllowMouseOpenFail # allows the server to start up even if the mouse does not work
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "dbe" # Double-Buffering Extension
Load "v4l" # Video for Linux
Load "extmod"
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
Load "glx" # 3D layer
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard1"
Driver "kbd"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "de(nodeadkeys)"
Option "XkbOptions" "compose:rwin"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse1"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "ExplorerPS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "monitor1"
VendorName "Plug'n Play"
ModelName "S1931"
HorizSync 31-64
VertRefresh 59-61

# Monitor preferred modeline (60.0 Hz vsync, 64.0 kHz hsync, ratio 5/4)
ModeLine "1280x1024" 108 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync

# TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
# 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630

# 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "device1"
VendorName ""
BoardName "NVIDIA GeForce FX and later"
Driver "nv"
Option "DPMS" "false"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "screen1"
Device "device1"
Monitor "monitor1"
DefaultColorDepth 24

Subsection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
EndSubsection

Subsection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
EndSubsection

Subsection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
EndSubsection

Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "640x480" "480x360" "320x240"
EndSubsection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "layout1"
InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"
Screen "screen1"
EndSection

Posted: Wed 20 Feb 2008, 14:43
by BarryK
Sit Heel Speak wrote:I don't know whether this is a "bug" or a "feature," but, I used

mksquashfs ./* trashedsystem.sfs

to make an archive of a trashed filesystem...while running tmxxine 'Vision' from live-CD..'Vision' uses kernel 2.6.24rc8...and...

..the resulting trashedsystem.sfs is not mountable by Puppy 2.17-1.

Nor mountable in Sabayon 1.1 PE, which uses a 2.6.23-something kernel. dmesg | tail did advise that I should update my kernel.

trashedsystem.sfs is mountable in 'Vision' --I presume it would also be mountable in Barry's "stock" 4-alpha-6 which has a 2.6.24 kernel, though haven't tried. I wonder if it is mountable in the earlier 4-alphas.
Yeah, there's a problem here. Dingo uses squashfs v3.3, whereas Puppy3 uses squashfs 3.2r2 and earlier puppies may have an even earlier version of squashfs. The 'mksquashfs' utility in Dingo creates smaller sfs files, but that means incompatibility with earlier squashfs's. The problem specifically is the squashfs kernel module in the earlier puppies.
What you have to do is boot the older puppy and use its mksquashfs utility.

Posted: Wed 20 Feb 2008, 14:55
by BarryK
Jesse, I've just compiled the 2.6.24.2 kernel, with the conventional /dev/hd* restored for IDE drives. The libata PATA /dev/sd* works for most IDE drives, and on all PCs that I have tested. There are just a few, like yours and sage's, that are troublesome. So, probably alpha7 will have the /dev/hd* restored and we'll see if that fixes the problem.

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2008, 00:21
by Jesse
Yay! I'll give it a go soon. I want to fix a MUT2 bug that prevents it running on Dingo editions. Although the bug seems related to scsi disks, so it MUT2 might run unchanged on Dingo alpha7 no-problems.
Jesse

Dingo Alpha 6 Chat continuous loop * fixd w Xchat*

Posted: Thu 21 Feb 2008, 18:18
by GeoW
Help,

I'm just starting to use chat, Puppy 3.01 works, Dingo A6 seems to go
into an auto log loop. freenet and nickserv generate tabs so fast
that I can't even send out a msg asking for help.

If I x it closed, it pops up again and continues. I need to kill it.

I am running a frugal install
Multi booting Puppy 301, Dingo A6, Windows XP Pro (SP2)

Anyone seen this? I've just reread this entire thread and no mention.

My defaultchat says exec pidgin

I get the same behavior from the menu sel and the icon.

Help,

GeoW

Posted: Fri 22 Feb 2008, 23:53
by disciple
Scratch this - I'm confused :(

Posted: Sun 24 Feb 2008, 13:41
by kirk
I've just compiled the 2.6.24.2 kernel, with the conventional /dev/hd* restored for IDE drives.
One down-side to doing that is newer drives won't have DMA support and you can't enable DMA with hdparm. The DVD drive in my laptop is one of those. In the past (pre-Dingo) I've booted with libata=combined to fix that, but most people who try Puppy and have one of these drives will just think Puppy is slow. I've tried Dingo on 5 computers with IDE drives and had no problems. Not to say a problem doesn't exist. Perhaps if you're going to have a retro kernel (2.6.21.7), compile that one without libata.

Posted: Sun 24 Feb 2008, 18:45
by linuxcbon
Isn't /etc/profile too complicated ?
There are obsolete entries like : /opt/gnome2/lib
Should qt4 also be included in /etc/profile ?

Posted: Sun 24 Feb 2008, 23:21
by linuxcbon
By the way, just installed pidgin-2.3.1, newest version, can you include it ?

Can you please include xawtv --- edit, not needed ---

Posted: Mon 25 Feb 2008, 01:00
by BarryK
kirk wrote:
I've just compiled the 2.6.24.2 kernel, with the conventional /dev/hd* restored for IDE drives.
One down-side to doing that is newer drives won't have DMA support and you can't enable DMA with hdparm. The DVD drive in my laptop is one of those. In the past (pre-Dingo) I've booted with libata=combined to fix that, but most people who try Puppy and have one of these drives will just think Puppy is slow. I've tried Dingo on 5 computers with IDE drives and had no problems. Not to say a problem doesn't exist. Perhaps if you're going to have a retro kernel (2.6.21.7), compile that one without libata.
Yeah, maybe you're right. I'm getting Dingo running nicely with the 2.6.21.7 kernel, so perhaps I should have that one for people that need the /dev/hd* -- after all, only a few people have reported trouble with the libata PATA -- sage and Jesse, maybe a couple of others.

I might release alpha7 with 2.6.21.7 as that is working pretty good and just needs a bit of refining to become a release candidate, and I might even hold off from releasing a 2.6.24.x version and wait for 2.6.25 as I'm not happy with some of the wireless drivers in 2.6.24.x.

I was really pleased that I recompiled 2.6.21.7 in Dingo and the old modules from Puppy3 loaded without complaint, despite the compiler mismatch. Well, they must be close enough, 4.1.2 in Puppy3, 4.2.2 in Puppy4. I don't know if glibc version matters, but that is 2.5 and 2.6.1.

Posted: Mon 25 Feb 2008, 01:07
by Sit Heel Speak
Dingo a-6-k2.6.24, on a wired network with four other (all XP Pro+SP2) machines. PNetHood will see three of them but not the fourth. We can ping the fourth, but PNetHood does not sense it. The missing machine does have shares, they can be seen from the other XP machines. Anyone have any clues?

Posted: Mon 25 Feb 2008, 01:17
by linuxcbon
I dont know if it happened to you, but I got Segmentation fault very often with epdfview when scrolling a pdf file.

Posted: Mon 25 Feb 2008, 06:16
by disciple
I was playing around with gview and it gives a lot of segfaults too, but maybe you aren't meant to use it

Posted: Mon 25 Feb 2008, 06:34
by HairyWill
SHS
pnethoods server detection is done by nbtscan. Two possibilities spring to mind:
1) the server is on a slowish network segment and nbtscan is not waiting long enough for a reply
2) if the server has the netBIOS protocol disabled this might cause a problem

try running
nbtscan -qt 10000 192.168.0.0/16
replacing the subnet with whatever you have

if this helps, then changing the timeout at line 54 in /usr/local/apps/pnethood/pnethood should make it work

Posted: Mon 25 Feb 2008, 07:48
by disciple
The solver in Gnumeric causes segfaults too.
But I think most of the problems I was having with Gnumeric must only occur when Puppy is running in RAM on the very first boot, because I don't have them now.

Posted: Mon 25 Feb 2008, 12:50
by Jesse
Hi Barry,

I am having sound card issues with Dingo, the motherboard has a sound card that has no BIOS disable ability, this sound card gets detected ok, but its not vrey good sound so don't want to use it, instead I have some USB speakers that play sound quite nicely, and I am having trouble getting them working with Dingo.

Initially following through the wizard choosing usb, nothing happens, ALSA Wizard does modify the /etc/modprobe.conf, but changes no drivers.
But I discovered that if I kill the absvolume, before running the wizard, that it succeeds at setting the usb-speakers as the sound card, and I hear the music.
But then when I reboot, the boot scripts destroy my usb speakers setting, and I am back with motherboard sound card.

how do we go about fixing this one up?

Jesse

Finds my IDE drive as SATA drive

Posted: Mon 25 Feb 2008, 14:53
by earlytv
Alpha 6 finds all the hard drive partions as sda4, sda6 ect. I have no sata device only a IDE hard drive. So when I want to do a full install of alpha 6 on /dev/hda6 it says not there but /dev/sda6 is and it installs. Now if I use alpha 6 Grub alpha 6 boots but other 3 puppy do not. If I use Grub from one of other puppy they boot, alpha 6 does not?

error lines

kernel panic-not syncing: vfs: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (0,0)

What did I do wrong?????

Posted: Mon 25 Feb 2008, 15:39
by GeoW
Hopefully, you just need to mosify menu.lst.

For the two lines between the title and the boot
for each Puppy:

The first part of the lines - before the / - is for grub,
so my entries all say (hd0,0).

The part after the / is for puppy, so:

for Puppy 3.01 I have PMEDIA=idehd PDEV1=hda1
for Puppy 3.96 I have PMEDIA=idesd PDEV1=sda1

Hope this helps,

GeoW

Posted: Mon 25 Feb 2008, 20:42
by earlytv
Here is at bootup a edit of a grub line that alpha 6 puts down.

root (hd0,5)
kernal /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda6 ro vga=normal

only change other puppies do is sda6 becomes hda6 all the rest is
same.

If I let 2.17 run grub and all is HDAx and then try to edit just the alpha line to sda6 it says no such dev I cant do that????
Just another software chunk a hardware guy ???????????????????????

Posted: Mon 25 Feb 2008, 21:13
by GeoW
No, only the part after the / the first part is for grub.

GeoW