official (momanager) language packs

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#143 Post by L18L »

what's new

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#131206 make it fatdog compatible, LANGPACK=langpack | langpack_fatdog
Fatdog needs puppy's langpack.

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#131212 support t12s method
If you don't know what it is you won't need it

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#131219 enable quirky6.0: no check on pupmode
May be of interest if you cannot have frugal install, only full install

Thus it might be not for everyone. :wink:

...and here is a screenshot
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#144 Post by L18L »

New Year - new momanager

Version 20130101
containing just some fixes for bugs detected by Finnish translator zephyr2 who has no frugal install.

That is why I have extended momanager to work with full install, tested in Quirky6.0

EDIT: xgettext, etc do yet NOT work in Quirky6.1

EDIT: works in Quirky if you install gettext-0.18.3.1.tar.bz2 from
http://ftp.nluug.nl/ftp/pub/os/Linux/di ... 2/quirky6/
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FFMM is dead

#145 Post by L18L »

FFMM is dead
Long live momanager.
Yes, I will put your latest momanager pet into quirky 6.1.1.
see
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=207.
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#146 Post by Bert »

Great! Congrats...
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Slacko

#147 Post by rodin.s »

Latest momanagers do not work on latest Slacko (5.6.5.1, 5.6.5.2). I use version 20130620 which works.

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Re: Slacko

#148 Post by L18L »

rodin.s wrote:Latest momanagers do not work on latest Slacko (5.6.5.1, 5.6.5.2). I use version 20130620 which works.
I will check momanager in slacko. Thank you, Sergey

...and thank you, Bert

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Re: Slacko

#149 Post by L18L »

L18L wrote:
rodin.s wrote:Latest momanagers do not work on latest Slacko (5.6.5.1, 5.6.5.2). I use version 20130620 which works.
I will check momanager in slacko. Thank you, Sergey
Fix: remove the geometry :lol:
#MM1RET="`$GTKDIALOGEXE --program=MM2_DLG --geometry 0x0+0-0 `" #131014
MM1RET="`$GTKDIALOGEXE --program=MM2_DLG `" #140105

Thanks again. :D

gettext-tools (dev activated) installed , no devx 8)
EDIT: gettext-tools frpm slacko's package manager
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#150 Post by Bert »

Hi L18L -and happy NY!-,

Are you talking about these gettext-tools?

We're still in festive mood here...a real hiatus, unlike Barry's :lol:

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#151 Post by L18L »

Bert wrote:Are you talking about these gettext-tools?
I was talking about gettext-tools in slacko's package manager.
Don't know whether it is the same or not. :oops:

Bon appétit :lol: :lol: :lol:

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#152 Post by mariojrmatos »

Great work, L18L.

Thanks to Barry, you, Bert and vicmz I was able to release the first pt_PT translation for Puppy. (see why).

I can't express my gratitude... :wink:

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#153 Post by L18L »

mariojrmatos wrote:I can't express my gratitude...
Yes you can
You have done it right now
Thank you and welcome.

:D

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#154 Post by don570 »

I was using momanager in Quirky tahr , it worked well however I realized
that the .desktop file is not appropriate for language packs.
It requires translations of the name so that non-English speakers
can understand the function of program.
Barry Kauler needs to be notified of this problem.

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[Desktop Entry]
Encoding=UTF-8
Name=MoManager create non-English Puppy
Name[fr]=MoManager - pour traduire
Name[de]=MoManager - Übersetzung kontrollieren
Icon=chooselocale.xpm
Comment=MoManager create non-English translations
Exec=momanager
Terminal=false
Type=Application
Categories=X-Utility-development
GenericName=MoManager


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FR language pack issue

#155 Post by Botanic »

Hello guys,
I just installed Slacko with a full install, then downloaded the lang_pack_fr and loaded it, but nothing happened.
I tried launching Momanager from the console and it complains that PUPMODE = 3 (full install) thus aborting.

Maybe the correct way was to install it when I ran it the first time, before doing the full install? Is there a way to do it now? (I just spent the all day yesterday to set it up!! ^^)
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Wary on Acer Aspire X3200 - Phenom X4 - 2.2GHz - 4G RAM

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Re: FR language pack issue

#156 Post by L18L »

Botanic wrote:I just installed Slacko with a full install, then downloaded the lang_pack_fr and loaded it, but nothing happened.
What did you expect to happen after restarting x server?
Botanic wrote:I tried launching Momanager from the console and it complains that PUPMODE = 3 (full install) thus aborting.
... Is there a way to do it now? (I just spent the all day yesterday to set it up!! ^^)
Does your /usr/sbin/momanager contain this line:

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#131219 enable quirky6.0: no check on pupmode
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#157 Post by L18L »

don570,
my translation which is used in langpack_de is

MoManager bringt Puppy deutsch bei

and this means that
MoManager teaches Puppy German

I cannot see any problem with this.

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#158 Post by don570 »

The version that Barry Kauler uses (in Woof) has a desktop that is pure
English. So he should be warned.


The people who make language packs have made changes to their
desktop files obviously.
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#159 Post by vicmz »

It's OK to have a translated .desktop file to let users know what's about, maybe it's just not in Barry Kauler's plans. When he said Momanager is English-only, he was serious. Why would a translator need translations? A Puppy translator must have an excellent knowledge of English and how Puppy Linux works.
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#160 Post by vicmz »

Slacko 5.6.5.6 has an old version of Momanager. I can't create or update translation files, I can't run newer versions of Momanager either. It says a library is missing, when I install that library it says I need libraries.
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#161 Post by L18L »

don570 wrote:The people who make language packs have made changes to their desktop files obviously.
Yes, and the people who use language packs are seeing the translations of their installed language packs only.
Who does not have French langpack_fr installed is not seeing French translation of "MoManager create non-English Puppy ".
Who does not have German langpack_de installed is not seeing German translation of "MoManager create non-English Puppy ".

I do not thank that Barry is using MoManager
He has coded it.
He has coded it in a genious way.
And we users (of MoMager) extend it, that's it. That's the way how free software works.

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#162 Post by L18L »

vicmz wrote:Slacko 5.6.5.6 has an old version of Momanager. I can't create or update translation files, I can't run newer versions of Momanager either. It says a library is missing, when I install that library it says I need libraries.
Trying to reproduce your observation
I am running slack05.6.5.6 pfix=ram now
devx_slacko_5.6.5.6.sfs loaded on-the-fly

I did choose 1st entry of "Scripts that do not have a mo file"
and rc.shutdown.po was opened in geany.
msgfmt works:

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# msgfmt
msgfmt: no input file given
Try `msgfmt --help' for more information.
#
Thus builtin MoManager (official from #130807) works for me.

Which one of the unofficial MoManagers are you trying to use?
Did you load devx_slacko_5.6.5.6?

I am planning to post another version of MoManager soon (found a bug in my implementation "Actual" vs "Check needed")

Thanks for posting.

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