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Posted: Fri 30 Mar 2012, 12:01
by ICPUG
playdayz wrote: ICPUG, Do you mean Lupu Libre should contain hpliplite as Lupu Plus does?
Yes

Posted: Fri 30 Mar 2012, 12:51
by playdayz
To set LibreOffice Writer as the default word processor that opens by clicking the write icon on the desktop, you can right-click /usr/local/bin/defaltwordprocessor and choose Open as text. Then change abiword to swriter and Save.
bones01, There is also this pet that integrates the Libre Office word processor, spreadsheet, draw, and presentation programs
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 503#613503

Posted: Fri 30 Mar 2012, 20:26
by nooby
Wanted to use an old computer HP/Compaq d230 Celeron CPU
1.5GHz for test of odd Linux distros but seems too old.
Lupu 528 frugal install fails to get desktop after first set up settings
and the restart of xorg. Xwin never starts. I tested with 1024.x 768
because that is what the monitor expects. I guess I ahve to test with lower?
Puppy 431 do work with 1024.x 768 but I want a very modern Puppy.

HP d230 only have 247MB RAM so that is maybe too small? I should
try to add to at least 512MB

But I remember vaguely we have had many reporting on black screen
after restart? Or rather xwin never starts.

Or it can be something with the video card.

Would it work better with some otehr Puppy or why does xorg not start
It looks all okay when it start up then after the restart of xorg it never work

800 x 600 did survive a restart of xorg but voi what big text :)
Is it the low amount of RAM that makes it fail to start xorg?

Posted: Fri 30 Mar 2012, 20:38
by James C
nooby wrote:Wanted to use an old computer HP/Compaq d230 Celeron CPU
1.5GHz for test of odd Linux distros but seems too old.
Lupu 528 frugal install fails to get desktop after first set up settings
and the restart of xorg. Xwin never starts. I tested with 1024.x 768
because that is what the monitor expects. I guess I ahve to test with lower?
Puppy 431 do work with 1024.x 768 but I want a very modern Puppy.

HP d230 only have 247MB RAM so that is maybe too small? I should
try to add to at least 512MB

But I remember vaguely we have had many reporting on black screen
after restart? Or rather xwin never starts.

Or it can be something with the video card.

Would it work better with some otehr Puppy or why does xorg not start
It looks all okay when it start up then after the restart of xorg it never work

800 x 600 did survive a restart of xorg but voi what big text :)
Is it the low amount of RAM that makes it fail to start xorg?
Try checking for the correct video drivers. Quickpet, then click on "drivers" then the test video button. There may be updated drivers available for your computer.

Posted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 01:25
by majorfoo
Full Install of Lucilibre-5.2.8-005 on Pent 4, 2.8ghz cpu, 2gb mem

Using stopwatch, takes 3.45 to 3.55 sec to open writer..
Abiword is almost instant, however, I like libreoffice better

Guess libreoffice -writer takes longer because it is much larger program

Posted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 05:26
by nooby
Thanks James C,
I will try a better computer with better graphics and more memory instead.
And move this internal HD over to that one and get 1GB RAM instead.
Sadly that one is more noisy and I hate fan noise.

Posted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 06:13
by bigpup
majorfoo wrote:Full Install of Lucilibre-5.2.8-005 on Pent 4, 2.8ghz cpu, 2gb mem

Using stopwatch, takes 3.45 to 3.55 sec to open writer..
Abiword is almost instant, however, I like libreoffice better

Guess libreoffice -writer takes longer because it is much larger program
Found this about slow start-up time, cause and solution.
http://listarchives.libreoffice.org/glo ... 14172.html

Also found references to 3 to 5 sec. start time as the normal now. Older versions took 20 to 30 sec. to start.

Posted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 10:57
by DC
re: lupu-libre-5.2.8-005

Hi,

Would Libreoffice auto update? (can't test as its up to date)

DC

Posted: Sat 31 Mar 2012, 15:11
by playdayz
Using stopwatch, takes 3.45 to 3.55 sec to open writer..
Abiword is almost instant, however, I like libreoffice better
I am afraid that is probably normal for Libre. On my 2.5GHz quad core, it takes about 3 seconds to start *the first time in a session* Subsequent startups are faster, around 1 second. As BigPup says, that is a big improvement over previously. Libre is installed in default locations so it may update *except* the update would use space in the save file--Libre is 400 MB so if it was all replaced that would put a huge dent in the save file--the default of which is 512MB.

Yes, Abiword is instant ;-) Abiword in the new Lupus is defaulting to saving in odt (opendocument) instead of abw--I hope that may be more reliable for saving and opening documents.

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Google Chrome 18 for Lucid - It has its own Flashplayer built in.

ftp://distro.ibiblio.org/puppylinux/pet ... -Lucid.pet

Posted: Sun 01 Apr 2012, 19:32
by majorfoo
playdayz wrote:
I am afraid that is probably normal for Libre. On my 2.5GHz quad core, it takes about 3 seconds to start *the first time in a session* Subsequent startups are faster, around 1 second. As BigPup says, that is a big improvement over previously. Libre is installed in default locations so it may update *except* the update would use space in the save file--Libre is 400 MB so if it was all replaced that would put a huge dent in the save file--the default of which is 512MB.

Yes, Abiword is instant ;-) Abiword in the new Lupus is defaulting to saving in odt (opendocument) instead of abw--I hope that may be more reliable for saving and opening documents.
I am using this on a full install and can live with the short delay on startup. This is better than trying to use the bloated MS Office 2010 and beyond.

Posted: Mon 02 Apr 2012, 05:39
by cthisbear
Lucid Plus.

Nice to see that this opened an ISO file immediately.

Best I have seen after Saluki.

Should be a Puppy standard.
When you are used to running >> 7zip >> in Windows
you get spoilt.

Anyway....a nice find.

Chris.

Posted: Mon 02 Apr 2012, 21:41
by don570
I've written two right click programms
that might be of interest.

One creates empty files with a right click on a folder

http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 796#616796


the other is general utilty to rename files etc.

rename-files

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 256#616256

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Lucid 5.2.8.005

Posted: Tue 03 Apr 2012, 21:34
by playdayz
Lucid 5.2.8.005 Sanity Check

http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/lupu-528.005.iso
c6d77fb54c88d6c55704f2ba679c783c

ffconvert 1.2 - shinobar; sfs-load 1.3 - shinobar; PupControl 2.0 - radky; Sylpheed 3.1.3 - playdayz; mtpaint 3.44.3 - don570; PupApps 1.8 - radky; PupSnap 1.6.3 - radky; pprocess 2.2.4 - zigbert; Pburn 3.5.1 - zigbert; firewallstate 2.1 - tasmod; grub4dos 1.7.2 - shinobar; isomaster 1.3.9 - BarryK; pbackup 3.1.9 - zigbert; pfilesearch 1.28 - zigbert; pfind 4.25 - zigbert; PupClockset 1.9 - radky; PupSysinfo 2.1.4 - radky; Bacon Recorder 2.7 - don570; dillo 3.0.2 - playdayz; geany 0.21 - playdayz

New Programs -> PupMenu 1.0 - radky; getflash 0.9 - shinobar

Fixed -> guvcview 1.4.1-1 (the previous version would often crash if changing video size and capturing)

Abiword with working Help
Abiword defaults to saving in .odt (opendocument) to address problems of failing to open abw documents it had saved
Homebank with working Help
gvfs 1.6.1 installed to enable Help - gvfs is the Gnome way to access http://, file:///, etc.

BigPup did a lot of detective work to get the Help working in Homebank. We found that not only did gvfs have to be installed, but also Firefox had to be installed and FF had to install itself as "default browser" which is different than the Puppy defaultbrowser. But the Help works with all browsers now. And now all of the desktop icon programs have working Help (and many of the menu programs).

Sanity Check means this is it unless something terrible turns up quickly.

Posted: Wed 04 Apr 2012, 02:50
by jim3630
528.005 frugal install to ext4 hdd pfix=ram on dual p6100 hp laptop.
broadcom sta_5.6.48.36-k2.6.33.2pet installed with wl wifi driver detected on eth1.
Broadcom Corporation BCM4313. connection wizard used without issue.

will continue testing. thanks

PS/2 mouse didn't work

Posted: Wed 04 Apr 2012, 05:08
by jpr
Tried Lucid Puppy-528.004 Live CD on Dell Latitude C840, and the optical PS/2 mouse didn't work. However the PS/2 keyboard did work.

Also had problems with a hadware-based USB modem.
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 087#617087

Cheers.

Posted: Wed 04 Apr 2012, 06:31
by Sage
Sadly that one is more noisy and I hate fan noise.
Look in the archives, say about five years ago, try Hardware/Beginners/Users. I discussed this in depth. You can either replace your PSU fan with a quality product or clean and re-lube the present one. Use MoS2 grease. A ball bearing fan will last longer but be noisier than a plain bearing. Plenty of choice of designs, makers, bearings, diameters, depths, cuft/min rates, etc. Cpc.co.uk has plenty of models available. You could modify your PSU case, fit a larger diameter fan on the outside if silence and airflow are major concerns. Internal cleanliness is paramount! Clean the PSU twice a year - at least.

Re: Lucid 5.2.8.005

Posted: Wed 04 Apr 2012, 07:20
by James C
playdayz wrote:Lucid 5.2.8.005 Sanity Check
Live pfix=ram hardware/sanity check.Everything working correctly on initial boot.Installed Iron 15....working well.


# report-video
VIDEO REPORT: Lucid , version 528

Chip description:
oem: NVIDIA
product: MCP61 - mcp61-86 Chip Rev

Driver used by Xorg:


Video mode used by Xorg:
Resolution: Depth:

...the above also recorded in /tmp/report-video
#
Using the "nv" driver.

-Computer-
Processor : 4x AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 620 Processor
Memory : 2854MB (149MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.52
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Wed 04 Apr 2012 02:21:30 AM CDT
-Display-
Resolution : 1366x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA NVidia

Haven't tested every installed app, but everything I've tried has worked well.Looks pretty solid.

Posted: Wed 04 Apr 2012, 14:24
by bigpup
Lucid 5.2.8.005 Sanity Check
Manual frugal install.
Initial testing.
All updated programs seem to be working OK. No problems.
Abiword and HomeBank help working.
Getflash worked great for getting latest Flash Player. Totally automatic. Very easy to use.
Really nice going to program "about" screens, and having web links work.

Re: Lucid 5.2.8.005

Posted: Wed 04 Apr 2012, 14:50
by mavrothal
playdayz wrote:Lucid 5.2.8.005 Sanity Check

http://diddywahdiddy.net/Puppy500/lupu-528.005.iso
c6d77fb54c88d6c55704f2ba679c783c
Sorry if I missed it but is the devx the same as for 004?
Thx

Posted: Wed 04 Apr 2012, 15:01
by playdayz
Sorry if I missed it but is the devx the same as for 004?
Yes, devx is the same. It is listed in the first message of this thread, which I will update upon officially releasing version 005. Thanks.
Really nice going to program "about" screens, and having web links work.
Good point. By fixing gvfs the web links are working in more programs than just Abiword and Homebank. We done good ;-)

Could someone test this please: Is Abiword Help and the web links under About working in Saluki, Wary, and Racy? If not I will send jemimah and BarryK the howto details. I have already sent them to 01micko for Slacko. Thanks.