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Posted: Mon 21 May 2018, 04:36
by disciple
nic007 wrote:What is linux's market share compared to windows? Don't think it's worthwhile the trouble for windows. Linux is small fish in a very big pool. And why would a windows user want to "sabotage" linux software? Windows have more free applications and mostly better ones too.
Sure, because everyone runs Windows on their server, router, phone, TV, kodi box, wristwatch, ereader and embedded devices!

Posted: Mon 21 May 2018, 05:04
by disciple
BTW, WSL is great if you are ever forced to run Windows. There are performance issues (e.g. if you want to use it for server software), but otherwise, if you do things the linux way instead of the windows way, it is like Windows has almost become a real operating system (i.e. a system which actually lets you do stuff, instead of doing its best to prevent you from doing stuff).

Currently it doesn't seem to involve Microsoft taking over any of the Linux software - they have just reimplemented the Linux kernel interface, so your chosen distro runs on top of the Windows kernel instead of Linux.

WSL could even be helpful if we are worried about systemd taking over the world, because last I heard there was no intention to make it play nicely with systemd.

FWIW only a few distros are available in the Windows store, but the tool for packaging up a distro for WSL is now available on github - at least in theory anyone could just package up a 64bit Puppy and sideload it, without even going through the store.

Posted: Mon 21 May 2018, 05:16
by disciple
Interesting figures via Wikipedia. This isn't for "mobile devices" or anything like that. "All" devices.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_sha ... ng_systems

Posted: Mon 21 May 2018, 12:31
by nosystemdthanks
disciple wrote:Currently it doesn't seem to involve Microsoft taking over any of the Linux software - they have just reimplemented the Linux kernel interface
there is no "linux software", other than the kernel, but there is plenty of software for the linux kernel.

semantics aside, the "takeover" of gnu/linux is mostly by legal means (patent trolling and dubious patents) and partner companies restructuring the software that runs on our side. wsl is more of a marketshare attack, but it was mentioned mostly as evidence that microsoft considers gnu/linux "relevant."