Posted: Fri 28 Oct 2005, 16:35
Frames do offer navigational convenience as the navigation bar (left pane) is always visible. However some of the disadvantages ARE important and need to be taken care of. For example, we are now in the sixth place when people search for "puppy" at Google (and the first when search for puppy linux)
That's partly due to the intelligent design of our current site http://goosee.com/puppy which has long pages with a high density of the keyword "puppy" (other reasons include many sites linking to that page, etc). We won't want to lose that high ranking
From: http://searchenginewatch.com/webmasters ... hp/2167901
"most search engine spiders will only see the master page. Just like an old browser, they don't understand the instructions on how to produce the frame layout. These are ignored, and only information within the noframes tags are read (information which a frames-capable browser will ignore).
So what do frame-challenged search engines see in our example? This is pretty typical of some frames-based sites:
Sorry! You need a frames-browser to view this site.
Obviously, we need to provide search engines with a much better description of the site than this. There's also another problem. There are no links within the noframes area to pages within the site. That means the search engines won't crawl past our master page. We could have hundreds of information-packed pages inside the site, but this simple mistake essentially makes them invisible to many search engines."
To illustrate the idea better, the cached version of this page is empty because the site uses frames. In short, the search engine knows there's such a page but doesn't know it's content (and therefore doesn't know what keywords it contain). When people search for a keyword which that page does have, the search engine won't return the page (and links are not followed as well).
You can find some workarounds from the page above, thou I don't know if they work well and whether our ranking would be affected. Anyway, make sure you've read (and understand) that page if you really want frames.
Read more:
Secret Benefits of Search Engine Optimisation: Increased Usability
How to Make Frames Search Engine Friendly
That's partly due to the intelligent design of our current site http://goosee.com/puppy which has long pages with a high density of the keyword "puppy" (other reasons include many sites linking to that page, etc). We won't want to lose that high ranking
From: http://searchenginewatch.com/webmasters ... hp/2167901
"most search engine spiders will only see the master page. Just like an old browser, they don't understand the instructions on how to produce the frame layout. These are ignored, and only information within the noframes tags are read (information which a frames-capable browser will ignore).
So what do frame-challenged search engines see in our example? This is pretty typical of some frames-based sites:
Sorry! You need a frames-browser to view this site.
Obviously, we need to provide search engines with a much better description of the site than this. There's also another problem. There are no links within the noframes area to pages within the site. That means the search engines won't crawl past our master page. We could have hundreds of information-packed pages inside the site, but this simple mistake essentially makes them invisible to many search engines."
To illustrate the idea better, the cached version of this page is empty because the site uses frames. In short, the search engine knows there's such a page but doesn't know it's content (and therefore doesn't know what keywords it contain). When people search for a keyword which that page does have, the search engine won't return the page (and links are not followed as well).
You can find some workarounds from the page above, thou I don't know if they work well and whether our ranking would be affected. Anyway, make sure you've read (and understand) that page if you really want frames.
Read more:
Secret Benefits of Search Engine Optimisation: Increased Usability
How to Make Frames Search Engine Friendly