I guess this relates to Canons own drivers rather than the included Gutenprint options? I ask because I have had no problems with native Gutenprint driver for ip4600.Patriot wrote:Hmmm .....
During the recent troubleshooting of plankenstein's canon ip2600, I have encountered a bug in several canon cnij (InkJet) drivers
Common UNIX Printing System (CUPS) v1.3.11
Spup Frugal HD and USB
Root forever!
Root forever!
Hmmm .....
Canon drivers are somewhat distro dependent (to be precise: directory layout dependent). If any one of the symlinks or files is not in the expected location, it borks out ... I noticed this behaviour during the ip2600 troubleshooting ... We need to hunt down where they should actually be ... The best solution is to completely rebuild from the sources for puppy ...
Rgds
Yes, it affects canon's own drivers prior to v3.00. The ip4600 uses v3.00 drivers and is not affected by this. If you have tried the canon ip4600 drivers that was extracted directly from .deb or .rpm then that's where the problem begins ...DaveS wrote: ..... I guess this relates to Canons own drivers rather than the included Gutenprint options? I ask because I have had no problems with native Gutenprint driver for ip4600.
Canon drivers are somewhat distro dependent (to be precise: directory layout dependent). If any one of the symlinks or files is not in the expected location, it borks out ... I noticed this behaviour during the ip2600 troubleshooting ... We need to hunt down where they should actually be ... The best solution is to completely rebuild from the sources for puppy ...
Rgds
Could you answer a few questions for me as I'll be trying to use CUPS 1.3.9 in NOP 4.13 and probably recycling old computers;
In the list you have CUPS, Gutenprint, HPLIP, PNM2PPA, SPLIX, FOO2ZJS
What are all these? Are they components of CUPS or alternatives to CUPS or are they all the inter-related components needed to make CUPS work ?
[EDIT] I've just hopped over to the HPLIP site and this reads as if it is an alternative to CUPS, is this true. If I had an HP printer would I use HPLIP instead of CUPS ?
To get CUPS to work is it sometimes as simple as finding the appropriate .ppd file and putting it in /usr/share/cups/model and then opening CUPS and adding the printer ?
Is this the basic way of getting CUPS to work, and only when this doesn't work do we head into problem solving issues ?
Where are the sites to find .ppd files
http://www.cups.org/ppd.php
anywhere else ?
Thanks.
In the list you have CUPS, Gutenprint, HPLIP, PNM2PPA, SPLIX, FOO2ZJS
What are all these? Are they components of CUPS or alternatives to CUPS or are they all the inter-related components needed to make CUPS work ?
[EDIT] I've just hopped over to the HPLIP site and this reads as if it is an alternative to CUPS, is this true. If I had an HP printer would I use HPLIP instead of CUPS ?
To get CUPS to work is it sometimes as simple as finding the appropriate .ppd file and putting it in /usr/share/cups/model and then opening CUPS and adding the printer ?
Is this the basic way of getting CUPS to work, and only when this doesn't work do we head into problem solving issues ?
Where are the sites to find .ppd files
http://www.cups.org/ppd.php
anywhere else ?
Thanks.
Hmmm .....
I have inadvertently uploaded CUPS-1.3.11 pet package with a broken installer script. I apologize to the 24 downloaders of the recent cups-1.3.11 package .....
The cause of the broken installer script was due to an extra 'curly bracket' left dangling within the script. This has been fixed, checked, double-checked and installation process re-tested. The correct CUPS-1.3.11 package have been uploaded.
Any inconveniences caused by this is regretted .....
Rgds
I have inadvertently uploaded CUPS-1.3.11 pet package with a broken installer script. I apologize to the 24 downloaders of the recent cups-1.3.11 package .....
The cause of the broken installer script was due to an extra 'curly bracket' left dangling within the script. This has been fixed, checked, double-checked and installation process re-tested. The correct CUPS-1.3.11 package have been uploaded.
Any inconveniences caused by this is regretted .....
Rgds
Still getting - Permission denied error?
I don't have lp in groups or users list, but I have this error.
Spool ls shows this:
-rw------- 1 root nobody 771 2009-11-11 12:53 c00001
-rw------- 1 root nobody 767 2009-11-11 12:53 c00002
-rw-r----- 1 root nobody 17353 2009-11-11 12:53 d00002-001
drwxrwx--T 2 root nobody 1024 2009-11-11 12:39 tmp
What else can it be
Spool ls shows this:
-rw------- 1 root nobody 771 2009-11-11 12:53 c00001
-rw------- 1 root nobody 767 2009-11-11 12:53 c00002
-rw-r----- 1 root nobody 17353 2009-11-11 12:53 d00002-001
drwxrwx--T 2 root nobody 1024 2009-11-11 12:39 tmp
What else can it be
Re: Still getting - Permission denied error?
Hmmm .....
Details? Puppy version? Cups version? printer model? printer driver?
Rgds
I have no idea .....slmeyer wrote:........
What else can it be
Details? Puppy version? Cups version? printer model? printer driver?
Rgds
Ok installed cups 1.3.10 onto puppy 4.12.
Mostly ok but some problems.
It seems cups needs UTF-8 ...... not sure how this is related.
Running the canon ink monitor only works if locale is set to UTF-8 or C.
Whatever the setting I cannot get the printer to show up in the gnome print dialog... firefox and leafpad for example. Other apps are ok...eg epdfview and abiword and anything using lpr.
Any clues on this one..apparently the locale affects samba use.
mike
Mostly ok but some problems.
It seems cups needs UTF-8 ...... not sure how this is related.
Running the canon ink monitor only works if locale is set to UTF-8 or C.
Whatever the setting I cannot get the printer to show up in the gnome print dialog... firefox and leafpad for example. Other apps are ok...eg epdfview and abiword and anything using lpr.
Any clues on this one..apparently the locale affects samba use.
mike
cheers patriot.
Guess I'm not the only one...
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 302#371302
I suspect gnomeprint or something small and silly....same cups version and gtk on nimblex works ok and that is set to en_US ..no UTF-8 (Wireless works better on puppy so it's not all one way )
regards
mike
Guess I'm not the only one...
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 302#371302
I suspect gnomeprint or something small and silly....same cups version and gtk on nimblex works ok and that is set to en_US ..no UTF-8 (Wireless works better on puppy so it's not all one way )
regards
mike
Hmmm .....
I couldn't find anything there, Mike ... I have some screenshots taken ... I've tested on p412 k26217 and p421 k262516 ... both gives same output: printer is available for selection/options ...
The p421 was a pfix=ram with cups-1310 +dbus+ffox+canon-ip4600 driver ... The p412 was my one of my testbed, has cups-1311, gtk+2.12.12, dbus-1.2.12, dbus-glib-0.80, glib.2.20 and many many others I don't remember off-hand ... ffox-3.5.5 was tested, leafpad as-is, geany-0.18 .... Lang=en_US ...
I also tested most gtk apps with printing option and they all open the printer tab the same way ... (I'm unable to see the ink monitor tab since I don't have a real canon printer around ...)
Did I miss something to bork it properly ?
Rgds
I couldn't find anything there, Mike ... I have some screenshots taken ... I've tested on p412 k26217 and p421 k262516 ... both gives same output: printer is available for selection/options ...
The p421 was a pfix=ram with cups-1310 +dbus+ffox+canon-ip4600 driver ... The p412 was my one of my testbed, has cups-1311, gtk+2.12.12, dbus-1.2.12, dbus-glib-0.80, glib.2.20 and many many others I don't remember off-hand ... ffox-3.5.5 was tested, leafpad as-is, geany-0.18 .... Lang=en_US ...
I also tested most gtk apps with printing option and they all open the printer tab the same way ... (I'm unable to see the ink monitor tab since I don't have a real canon printer around ...)
Did I miss something to bork it properly ?
Rgds
well I have this knack of confusing my own issues.Did I miss something to bork it properly
As mentioned a very similar setup on nimblex is fine and my puppy 4.12 setup is pretty standard as is apart from using xfce.....
...actually I just realised I included the gtk2 xinput update for firefox crashes and wacom tablet...I bet thats it...hmm there were 3 versions of that....the slaxer one might be the cure.....No good reverting to the original as it was too unstable......I bet the other person has the same update.
Well in a roundabout way I have a lead. Actually I could probably use the nimblex libraries ...pass me the duct tape.
regards
mike
ps this must be it...I tried an early compilation of gtk 2.10 once and guess what, the printing did not work either as the gnome print libraries were incomplete. Whoever builds these needs buying a printer
Eureka...that was it
I dropped in /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/printbackends/libprintbackend-cups.so from nimblex and the canon appeared in the list...jumped for joy and did a test print. ...I guess it was compiled against the older cups or some config that was particular about versions.
The print monitor still complains so I launch it with
and its happy.
regards
mike
I dropped in /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/printbackends/libprintbackend-cups.so from nimblex and the canon appeared in the list...jumped for joy and did a test print. ...I guess it was compiled against the older cups or some config that was particular about versions.
The print monitor still complains so I launch it with
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#!/bin/sh
export LANG=C
cngpijmonip4600
regards
mike
Will any version of Cups work on SPUP 451 . I have tried a few versions and cannot get to the manager on Localhost:631, Tried the startups mentioned on Slackware sites still no go .I like the puppy version but it is no use if you cannot print.
Regards Dennis
I know just enough about this stuff to know how much I dont know.!!!!!!
Regards Dennis
I know just enough about this stuff to know how much I dont know.!!!!!!
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cups is really just a bloated gui, the real workhorse is gutenprint, what you probably need is a updated version of guten print or some printer driver compiled for your pc, in some cases. You would probably be better to ask in the Spup forum thread just in case the developer overlooks this thread.dalderton wrote:Will any version of Cups work on SPUP 451 . I have tried a few versions and cannot get to the manager on Localhost:631, Tried the startups mentioned on Slackware sites still no go .I like the puppy version but it is no use if you cannot print.
Regards Dennis
I know just enough about this stuff to know how much I dont know.!!!!!!
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
Tuuxxx
Thanks for the reply, I posted on the Spup thread a couple of days ago but I think that "Plaguedogs has moved on .Also it does seem that Cups is a bit of a specialist game.I have had a look at Patriots Unix epistle and tried his modular version but the same problem occurs .Looking at the Slackware stuff it seems to have its own problems and maybe the combination of Puppy and Slackware and Cups is not so easy to operate.
Its all interesting stuff. I wish I understood it better.
Regards Dennis
Thanks for the reply, I posted on the Spup thread a couple of days ago but I think that "Plaguedogs has moved on .Also it does seem that Cups is a bit of a specialist game.I have had a look at Patriots Unix epistle and tried his modular version but the same problem occurs .Looking at the Slackware stuff it seems to have its own problems and maybe the combination of Puppy and Slackware and Cups is not so easy to operate.
Its all interesting stuff. I wish I understood it better.
Regards Dennis
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whats the make and model of your printer and did your printer work on other puppies like 2.14X which has cups from 5 series I think I went with.dalderton wrote:Tuuxxx
Thanks for the reply, I posted on the Spup thread a couple of days ago but I think that "Plaguedogs has moved on .Also it does seem that Cups is a bit of a specialist game.I have had a look at Patriots Unix epistle and tried his modular version but the same problem occurs .Looking at the Slackware stuff it seems to have its own problems and maybe the combination of Puppy and Slackware and Cups is not so easy to operate.
Its all interesting stuff. I wish I understood it better.
Regards Dennis
ttuuxxx
http://audio.online-convert.com/ <-- excellent site
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
http://samples.mplayerhq.hu/A-codecs/ <-- Codec Test Files
http://html5games.com/ <-- excellent HTML5 games :)
The older version might need localhost:631/admin or even your (machine ip):631/admin...version 1.1.13 that is....is cupsd running if you look at htop/top...not all puppies start cups automatically....
/etc/rc.d/rc.cups start
or
/etc/init.d/cups start
With the newer cups (1.3 like from this thread ) usually the interface comes up fine but it is more fussy when it comes to permissions.
mike
/etc/rc.d/rc.cups start
or
/etc/init.d/cups start
With the newer cups (1.3 like from this thread ) usually the interface comes up fine but it is more fussy when it comes to permissions.
mike