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TeenPup2010mini -- Great Puplet

Posted: Tue 23 Feb 2010, 23:07
by mikeslr
Dear John:

I'd hate to be on your bad side!(':)') You've created another beautiful and useful Pupplet.
Having referred to your past efforts in a recent post in which I also bewailed the absence of digikam from Puppies, I then discovered that it came installed in TeenPup2010 mini which I hadn't tried. I edited my post and downloaded the ISO.

Edited: Deleted paragraph not relating to TeenPup.

FYI, the computer is a Thinkpad T42, with 1.5 Gb RAM.

Thank you for the great puplet.

mikesLr

Posted: Wed 24 Feb 2010, 04:42
by john biles
Hello mikeslr,
For the recorded, TEENpup 2009 Legacy came with Digikam Version 0.7.2
TEENpup 2010 Mini Beta has Digikam Version 0.9.2

I wouldn't worry about being on my "Bad Side" as you put it as I wouldn't think there would be may users on the forum who know what Apps are included in each version or derivative due to the large number currently available.

Everyone has a vision of what an Operating System should do and I know that my way of doing somethings will be different for another User. I know those downloading TEENpup will have different views on it. So if you feel the need to express your opinion be it good or bad, go for it as you won't offend me or get on my "Bad Side". LOL!

Posted: Wed 24 Feb 2010, 09:07
by Sylvander
I was unable to get this to load... :(

Probably due to the fact that the old 1999 Compaq Deskpro EN has only 256MB of RAM.

Is there anything that can be done? :)

2010

Posted: Wed 24 Feb 2010, 09:34
by timremy
hello john biles

great job. one look and your amazed.

timremy

Posted: Wed 24 Feb 2010, 10:15
by nooby
Hi John,

Now I remember what was different with your otherwise very excellent version.

I have 9 versions of Puppy now and yours are different when one try to play mp4.

Mp4 has no sound while the other 8 puppies do have sound on mp4.


So please instruct me on how I can get sound going. flv has sound instantly and streaming video from TV stations have sound so it is only when I try to play mp4 that there is no sound. other than that I like your mini

Posted: Wed 24 Feb 2010, 10:43
by Lobster
Sound was my problem too.
It did not recognise my bog standard pci sound card
It looks good and there is a great selection of programs :)

Posted: Wed 24 Feb 2010, 10:55
by nooby
Thanks Lobster

Good to not be alone having problem with sound.

John, if you have any clue on how to find a solution or roundabout?

My HP has Realtech sound.

Posted: Wed 24 Feb 2010, 12:01
by cthisbear
Big Bad john.

Celeron 2.8 Gigabyte...768 ram.
Booted fine.
First time..no error onto my desktop.
Used Xvesa...768 x 1024.
Sound works.
Maybe Xorg versus Xvesa.

Posting from Opera....that Sage blokes fave.
Just tested on Youtube...needed a Ray Davies moment.

Looks good so far.

Chris.

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-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 2.80GHz
Memory : 775MB (171MB used)
Operating System : Puppy Linux 0.42

-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Unknown
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Multimedia-
Audio Adapter : ICH - SiS SI7012

Removing icons from tray

Posted: Wed 24 Feb 2010, 13:55
by davec51
Thanks for a great Puppy, but one question: How do I removed unused icons from the tray? I know there's a file somewhere.

Posted: Wed 24 Feb 2010, 14:37
by CatDude
Hello davec51
davec51 wrote:...How do I removed unused icons from the tray? I know there's a file somewhere.
It looks like you need to edit the file: /root/icewm/toolbar
just comment out those you do not require.

CatDude
.

Icons in Tray

Posted: Wed 24 Feb 2010, 15:09
by davec51
That was easy. Thanks for your quick response.

Posted: Wed 24 Feb 2010, 15:43
by oui
good work really

excepted

no seamonkey! what can do now the poor seamonkey user having all his old important emails in seamonkey mail :roll: :idea: :oops:

and teenpup did not recognize the *.sfs staying in my root directory of the vfat partition excepted perhaps wine.

what is the matter with jre, flash plugin and qemu?

bye

Posted: Wed 24 Feb 2010, 23:09
by john biles
Hello nooby,
In this version of TEENpup I replace ffmpeg which is located in /usr/bin with a version that allows conversion of avi's into amv format which is used on cheap Chinese mp3 / video players with 1.8 inch screens. Due to the fact that Puppy's original included ffmpeg is the large in size, you will still find it in /usr/bin named ffmpeg-original-421 I suggest you rename TEENpup's version to ffmpeg-TEEN and then rename ffmpeg-original-421 back to ffmpeg and see if your mp4's now play. I haven't changed anything else that I can remember?

Hello Lobster, I haven't played around with "alsa" so have no idea why you don't have sound? On all my test PC's and EeePC sound works?

If anyone finds a solution to test problems please post so they can be included in the Final.

Posted: Wed 24 Feb 2010, 23:18
by Dingo
oui wrote:and teenpup did not recognize the *.sfs staying in my root directory of the vfat partition excepted perhaps wine.
being based on Puppy Linux 4.2.xx series, (see my sfs compatibility chart)

TeenPupMini allows use of sfs v.3.0 and 3.1 (check version of your sfs with

- righ click
- fle properties

2010

Posted: Thu 25 Feb 2010, 01:52
by timremy
hello john biles

read the post about sound, tried to check my sound

after downloading an mp4. no sound but picture

was great.

my sound card according to hard ware info is:

ICH4 - INTEL ICH6.

also tried on hda intel and same, no sound.

other than that, great program.

timremy

2010

Posted: Thu 25 Feb 2010, 02:44
by timremy
hello john biles

i do not follow the ffmeg changing and then change

again. could you please explain alittle more.

yes, i am an idiot. my wife confirms this every day.

thank you

timremy

Posted: Thu 25 Feb 2010, 03:13
by trio
Lobster wrote:Good luck with TEENpup2010minibeta John 8)

Dingos chart added here
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/SFSCompatibility
sfs compatibility check

Posted: Thu 25 Feb 2010, 04:23
by john biles
Hello timremy,
When a Application like Mplayer tries to play a video it calls on ffmpeg to do the job of decoding it so looks in a folder called "bin" which is located at /usr/bin
If you navigate to that folder you will find as you look through that folder there are 2 files with the name ffmpeg and ffmpeg-original-421
All you have to do is rename ffmpeg to ffmpeg-teen and then name ffmpeg-original-421 to just ffmpeg.
What this causes Mplayer to do is use the original version of ffmpeg instead of the version included in TEENpup 2010 mini beta.
Remember Mplayer is dumb as it only looks for a file named ffmpeg and can't see any other file even if it includes ffmpeg as part of its name.
I hope this helps.

Posted: Thu 25 Feb 2010, 04:26
by john biles
To those having trouble with sound is it just when you try and play an MP4 or all the time?

If it's just with trying to play an MP4 replace ffmpeg as in last post and even try using a version of ffmpeg you know works with your MP4's

Please supply feedback.

Posted: Thu 25 Feb 2010, 09:21
by nooby
John I did the changes of the name but that did not help me get sound on the mp4 fine that 8 other puppies I ahve installed just play out of the box with sound. Too much hazzle and not result so I get back to your mini when this is solved.

I ahve to learn Dpup and Upup and Tpup now and how to get a proper Firefox on the standard version 431