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Posted: Fri 01 Oct 2010, 12:21
by nooby
shinobar, love your version. I use it daily. I feel no need to use any other Puppy or other Linux distro.
But an annoying thing is that you??? or is it Lucid deciding and you accepted. Have not tested but two of the Icons to the most left lower corner. SDA1 and SDA2. are locked there each time I boot while all the others accept the place one gave them before shutting down.
How does one unlock these icons? All else seems to just work.
Grub4Dos and Grub legacy
Posted: Fri 01 Oct 2010, 12:23
by shinobar
maxpro4u wrote:. I see you included grub4dos instead of just grub. Why is that?
Good question, maxpro4u.
Actually, LupQ has both Grub4Dos and Grub legacy, but only the Grub4Dos is on the menu.
Grub4Dos can do all the grub legacy can. It can read even the menu.lst written for grub legacy.
Grub4Dos does not require Linux partitions. You can boot up PC's only with NTFS/FAT, most common Windows pre-installed PC's, without rebuilding the partitions.
The only one problem of the Grub4Dos is the case the first partition is EXT4 file system. That is why LupQ has the both Grub4Dos and Grub legacy.
Users need not aware with. The grub4dosconfig automatically arrange the boot sequence using grub legacy chaining to the Grub4Dos.
As the result, LupQ can boot up any combination of the partitions, NTFS/FAT/EXT2/EXT3/EXT4/RiserFS.
If you are used to the grub legacy, it is easy to switch to the Grub4Dos. The syntax of the menu.lst is upper compatible with the legacy.
icon position
Posted: Fri 01 Oct 2010, 12:29
by shinobar
nooby wrote:Have not tested but two of the Icons to the most left lower corner. SDA1 and SDA2. are locked there each time I boot while all the others accept the place one gave them before shutting down.
How does one unlock these icons?
You can configure the ROX-Filer for icon position.
Right-click the 'file' icon and 'ROX-Filer' > 'Options..'.
EDIT: Sorry, it is not.
You may need to modify some scripts...
EDIT2:
Edit the file '/etc/eventmanager' with text editor.
Maybe at the last lines:
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#left, right, bottom, or top of screen...
ICON_PLACE_ORIENTATION='bottom'
Posted: Fri 01 Oct 2010, 12:52
by nooby
Sorry, gave my best to follow this instruction.
See no Prefences are you talking about Options?
But that did not help me either, numerous options have no idea which one lock the icons.
Edit 2.
wow that look promising indeed.
ICON_PLACE_ORIENTATION
Posted: Fri 01 Oct 2010, 12:58
by shinobar
Hi, nooby!
EDIT2:
Edit the file '/etc/eventmanager' with text editor.
Maybe at the last lines:
Code:
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#left, right, bottom, or top of screen...
ICON_PLACE_ORIENTATION='bottom'
Posted: Fri 01 Oct 2010, 13:32
by nooby
Close but no cigar.
I have edit and edit that one.
If I put a # in front of that line then it accept to stay about 7 oclock.
Which is some inch higher up but it still locks to that position instead of to be stay where one place it like the others do so has to be some other script that take care about it.
Maybe we have to just let it have it's will? Just annoying it force me to accept something that I had hoped would be under user choice where to have them.
I tested to write Left but then it went to Top instead. Unpredictable behavior.
Drive icon position
Posted: Fri 01 Oct 2010, 23:46
by shinobar
For information:
They are determined by the function free_coord() at line 209-298 of /sbin/pup_event_frontend_d.
Posted: Sat 02 Oct 2010, 02:59
by nooby
Shinobar,
so if I get it they are defined as variable within a function?
One need to recompile to get at them?
We call it a day it is not important just an annoyance to take away flexibility that I as a Noob expect of an OS.
Much appreciated you cared this way. I fail to get why me should use any other Puppy.
Now I have to over come my laziness and make DVD and offer them to neighbors.
Posted: Sat 02 Oct 2010, 06:52
by adXok
Unfortunately I could make it even run. Gives me kernel stop message at load procedure.
PC system: Pentium IV 2.4GHz, 1,3GB RAM 333MHz, LG DVD-DL device, Gigabyte motherboard (old), nVidia 6200A 512MB shader 3.0.
Other puppies loading fine from the same RW-CD.
Re: kernel stop
Posted: Sat 02 Oct 2010, 08:25
by shinobar
adXok wrote:Gives me kernel stop message at load procedure.
Do you remember what it says?
Check the md5sum of .iso file.
Try 'safe mode' from boot menu.
Posted: Sat 02 Oct 2010, 08:57
by L18L
hello shinobar,
sorry, it is midori again:
klicking on menu help launched midori file:///usr/share/doc/index.html
There klicking the 2nd select (4dtris) lets midori freeze.
Therefore I have installed good old seamonkey, it does not freeze!
Then I have changed default browser to seamonkey.
As menu help was continuing to launch midori, I have revised puppyhelp and made 2 changes. (see
Posted: Yesterday, at 21:46 Post subject:
Subject description: addition 2 to langpack-de).
Now klicking menu help launches my default browser (seamonkey) file:///usr/share/doc/help/de/index.html
But anyhow, we will continue to make it better
edit
please change last lines of my /usr/sbin/puppyhelp posted in translate lupq from
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#
[ "$F" != "" ] || F="/usr/share/doc/index.html"
exec $BROWSER "file://$F"
to
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#[ "$F" != "" ] || F="/usr/share/doc/index.html"
[ ! -f "$F" ] && F="/usr/share/doc/index.html"
exec $BROWSER "file://$F" &
was my mistake
Posted: Sat 02 Oct 2010, 10:00
by nooby
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Posted: Sun 03 Oct 2010, 19:46
by adXok
Well, I tested it and is very, very good puppy distro.
One thing I would like is XFCE desktop environment. I used to use NOP distro 4.3.1 and find it very useful. Not a big deal but anyway.
One question though!
I saw that my Audio Mixer ALSA is full with channels. Is that your work or the new Puppy Lucid is like that. I seem to make use of it when using my emu 10k2 Creative sound card (like an audio routing driver).
Audio Mixer
Posted: Mon 04 Oct 2010, 01:23
by shinobar
Thanks, adXok.
adXok wrote:One question though!
I saw that my Audio Mixer ALSA is full with channels. Is that your work or the new Puppy Lucid is like that. I seem to make use of it when using my emu 10k2 Creative sound card (like an audio routing driver).
I am not sure i am following you.
It highly depends on the audio driver of the kernel.
LupQ has Retrovel as the audio mixer, can start from the menu. But aslo you can run alsamixer from the virtual terminal. Any difference between the two?
http://bkhome.org/blog/
Posted: Mon 04 Oct 2010, 21:06
by gcmartin
@shinobar
Did you see this note from Barry about Jemimah's work.
http://bkhome.org/blog/
Hope this helps
Re: http://bkhome.org/blog/
Posted: Tue 05 Oct 2010, 23:34
by shinobar
Thanks. I am always checking Barry's Blog and also interesting with Jemimah's works.
wacom tablet
Posted: Sat 09 Oct 2010, 15:55
by don570
Forum member charlie6 has been able to get his wacom tablet to
work with lupq after a lot of work and experimentation.
Read this page:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=135
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I wrote a Tutorial on how to split mp3 files using mp3splt
and snackAmp together.
See this page
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 103#457103
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mtpaint fix
Posted: Sat 23 Oct 2010, 18:15
by don570
The maintainer of mtpaint has warned that recent versions
of mtpaint don't create a preference file in /root.
This means that preferences won't be saved.
So check if file exists and if it doesn't you must create yourself.
You can test by setting a new preference , quit and restart mtpaint.
For instance I like to zoom with the scroll wheel which is a preference.
Version 3.34.56 will fix the problem in future.
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QuickSET LIveCD with GRUB opening
Posted: Wed 27 Oct 2010, 17:21
by gcmartin
@Shinobar
I have already commended your achievement with GRUB on the LiveCD is a very creative piece of work.
I run a LiveCD/LiveDVD version of your system. And, it is refreshing to have that. It has helped me see how to extend it for other uses in my future.
I am enclosing a menu.lst that you "may" want to consider, if its applicable to your efforts.
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# This is Puppy LiveCD menu.lst file.
#
# The old install method of booting via the stage-files has been removed.
#
# You may install GRLDR boot strap code to MBR with the
# bootlace.com utility under DOS/Win9x/Linux.
#
#This menu presents boot options for your Puppy LiveCD or your local HDD
#
# GRUB boot errors you may encounter are described at
# http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_13.html#SEC104
#color black/cyan black/yelow white/black yellow/black
splashimage=/splash.xpm
#forground=FFFF00
#background=000088
default 0
timeout 10
# Boot Pupppy normally allow it to search LiveCD/HDD for prior session files
title Lucid Puppy Linux Quickset edition 5.1.1
kernel /vmlinuz pmedia=cd i915.modeset=1 video=640x480
initrd /initrd.gz
title Puppy safe mode\nStart puppy with safety boot options(without X)\nTry 'xorgwizard' after bootup succeed to start graphic mode.
kernel /vmlinuz pmedia=cd pfix=ram,nox acpi=off apm=off nosmp noapic nodma nopcmcia i915.modeset=1 video=640x480
initrd /initrd.gz
# Boot Pupppy DIRECTLY into RAM. Do NOT load prior Puppy sessions on CD/HDD
title Puppy on RAM only\nRun totally in RAM, ignore saved sessions(puppy pfix=ram)
kernel /vmlinuz pmedia=cd pfix=ram i915.modeset=1 video=640x480
initrd /initrd.gz
# Do NOT BOOT LIVECD. Use the PC's default booting process
title Bootup from HDD\nBootup from the master boot record of the hard disk drive
chainloader (hd0)+1
title Windows VISTA\nStart Windows VISTA if installed on HDD
fallback 6
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /bootmgr
chainloader /bootmgr
title Windows NT/2K/XP\nStart Windows NT/2K/XP if installed on HDD
fallback 7
find --set-root --ignore-floppies /ntldr
chainloader /ntldr
title Windows 9x/Me\nStart Windows 95/98/Me or MSDOS if installed on HDD
fallback 4
find --set-root /io.sys
chainloader /io.sys
title Grub4Dos commandline\n(GRUB commandline for experts only)
commandline
title Reboot computer
reboot
title Halt computer
halt
# You MAY want to add an additional Partition/HDD alternative to this menu.lst
# title A Linux System on your local HDD
#
# GRUB boot errors you may encounter are described at
# http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_13.html#SEC104
#
forgets the internet connection?
Posted: Fri 29 Oct 2010, 03:08
by shinobar
A few reports given in the forum such as 'The Puppy forgets the internet connection'.
It means one can connect once but after the re-boot PC, it loose the connection.
I like to narrow down the discussion here on the Network Wizard, built in LupQ.
The connection settings are saved under /etc/network-wizard.
If you can find the files containing the machine address of your interface, the LupQ is not forgeting your settings.
But it may fail automatic connection. Or the connection is unstable.
One of the case, with wireless LAN, the Puppy connect to the strange IP.
It can be 169.254.xxx.xxx or somewhere neighbour LAN.
You can check the IP from the 'IPInfo network information' under 'System' menu.
You may be able to get better driver for your interface.
Note that the driver is the kernel specific.
Check the topic
Extras for Puppy 5.1 with 2.6.33.2 kernel
If the LupQ fails automatic connection after re-boot,
try right-click the 'Connect' icon on the desktop and select 'Autoconnect'.
If it can connect, there may be a chance to fix the problem.
If it is only the timing issue, you can elongate the timeout waiting the interface ready.
Open the file '/etc/rc.d/rc.network' with geany.
You can find at line 341:
Means the timeout is 12 seconds. You can change it with larger number.
If this change lead you success, please report as the reply.