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Posted: **Wed 25 May 2011, 18:17**

Sc0ttman

Of historical interest only, but I am posting from Puplite2. It's a slim (54mb) but not barebones 2.02 based derivative with the 2.6.16.7 kernel. Just has Dillo as the browser, but I'm running OperaQT static.
Found the iso on the desktop PC's hdd - mainly used with XP (wife & kids), but can't remember where or when I downloaded it.
Running quite nicely on this Armada M700 P450 with 320mb RAM.

Posted: **Wed 25 May 2011, 19:16**

Many thanks to you for your time spend and skills you have learned and pass on to us. Will be glad to try your new release when you get it finished. We are glad you are willing not to let one of the old PUPPIES DIE.

Posted: **Thu 26 May 2011, 11:40**

Keef wrote:Sc0ttman

Of historical interest only, but I am posting from Puplite2. It's a slim (54mb) but not barebones 2.02 based derivative with the 2.6.16.7 kernel. Just has Dillo as the browser, but I'm running OperaQT static.
Found the iso on the desktop PC's hdd - mainly used with XP (wife & kids), but can't remember where or when I downloaded it.
Running quite nicely on this Armada M700 P450 with 320mb RAM.

Thanks for the info.. Never seen that one... But now I know!

Hmmm... Should I rename my Puplite then? Would anyone care if I didn't bother to rename it? I doubt it... But I don't mind.

l2ulinux, it's my pleasure - I am totally aware that most of the stuff I do is not for 'mainstream' puppy users, and of no interest to most, but I like to put my stuff up here anyway - when I make stuff, it's only a little extra effort to document it, and then share it.

Posted: **Fri 27 May 2011, 17:50**

Interesting approach. 2 comments. You may want to choose or offer a rename contest on the new Pupplite6 name.; and , it appears that yo will be offereing kernel selection at boot time, so you may want to make that selection as user-friendly as possible: for example, kernels for "old P2-P3-P4s less than 2GHz", "Any PCs with more than 3.5GB RAM" and "PC built after 2006" assuming you do decide to run with the 3 kernels you've referenced..

Looking forward

Posted: **Fri 27 May 2011, 20:13**

gcmartin wrote:Interesting approach. 2 comments. You may want to choose or offer a rename contest on the new Pupplite6 name.; and , it appears that yo will be offereing kernel selection at boot time, so you may want to make that selection as user-friendly as possible: for example, kernels for "old P2-P3-P4s less than 2GHz", "Any PCs with more than 3.5GB RAM" and "PC built after 2006" assuming you do decide to run with the 3 kernels you've referenced..

Looking forward

I've yet to decide on any final plans for kernel switching, but I was thinking more or less the same as you... List kernels, with description of ideal hardware, and date.

About the name, I will have a think... Maybe "Total Shitzu" lol ...

Posted: **Sat 28 May 2011, 01:40**

Hello Iguleder, If you think 4.2.1 (Aprox June 2009) is too old then Legacy's 2.14 (Aprox Feb-March 2007) base must really annoy you. LOL!

Hello sc0ttman, Create what you want to give to the Puppy / Linux community and enjoy the experience of creating it.

While what you make won't suit everyone's hardware. It's sure to suit most.

Imagine if there was only one Puppy version available....

Now you know why there's Derivatives....

Puppy and Linux gives a user choices which Windows and Mac can't....

Posted: **Sat 28 May 2011, 10:42**

This jumps out at me:

You may want to offer a contest to rename Pupplite 6.

Allowing users to control developers actions will not be tolerated by the Puppy Linux Community, it suggests that users deserve a seat at the table. I hereby publicly chastise you for suggesting such a thing, it might kill their “Puppy Spirit

Posted: **Wed 01 Jun 2011, 16:05**

puppyite wrote:This jumps out at me:

You may want to offer a contest to rename Pupplite 6.
Allowing users to control developers actions will not be tolerated by the Puppy Linux Community, it suggests that users deserve a seat at the table. I hereby publicly chastise you for suggesting such a thing, it might kill their “Puppy Spirit

Posted: **Tue 07 Jun 2011, 08:27**

Hey sc0ttman -
really looking forward to seeing this one hatch - when you're good and ready.
What about a "Puppy Rescue"-specific spin-off based on your stripped-back v6? You could call it "BSOD" - Bitzer Survival-Operations Disk...

OK so I'm crap at names too

Hex?

PS I don't know how it translates outside of Oz, but a "bitzer" is a mongrel - a dog with bitza this, bitza that. Just another idea from the mongrel nation, sc0ttman.

UPDATES: How about turning the problem on its head? LitePup?
Hmmm - light.... what about "Photon"?
Small, fast, light - Merlin? Peregrin?
Phaedrus? The 'wolf' in Pirsig's "Zen and the Art of [computer systems] Maintenance"
Orac?
HAL?
Dogzilla? (Maybe Shinobar should claim that one)
RoboPup?
Ruffian?
Marvin42?
Eddie?
Howl?
Fetch?
P-6?
Hibernia?
sc0tti?

Nah - I'm still crap.

Brain hurts, but fun.

Posted: **Tue 07 Jun 2011, 09:05**

Names:

Uppy - mind you is that taking the P out of Puppy?
Plite - nah that might get you into plight
Pupette - a bit too French for a sc0ttman?
Pup - is small and not yet being used - though it does have negative connotations in US
PupBite or just Bite - you being a ferocious MMA guy
Runt - we may have a user on IRC with this name but I rather like it, nobody expects much from it as it is small and then it surprises everyone . . .
Lpup - yep L for Learner - but then it is El Pup - a bit Spanish?
LOLpup - just seems to make me smile
AlphaPup - never finished but always the Alpha Dog

. . . just some ideas

Puplite - is OK too

Posted: **Tue 07 Jun 2011, 20:53**

Loving the suggestions, I will end up either sticking with Puplite, just for simplicity, but will be ideally choosing a suggestion that takes my fancy!

And I'm gonna be using "bitzer" from now on, in everyday speech! I like that phrase... Typical Aussie simplicity.

Posted: **Tue 07 Jun 2011, 22:35**

http://www.k9puppy.co.uk/Puppies/Breed.aspx

Posted: **Thu 16 Jun 2011, 18:57**

Just an update, so I dont lose the list more than anything (in case I lose the files), I've built an updated Puplite, which basically has a Wary 'core' - the same glibc, gtk (and its deps) and ffmpeg. I also updated a few more things.

Here's a list of the pets I have added to Puplite, to make it wary 512 compatible:

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atk-1.30.0-w5.pet
cairo-1.10.2-w5.pet
compositeproto-0.4-w5.pet
damageproto-1.1.0-w5.pet
fribidi-0.19.2-w5.pet
gcc_lib-4.3.4-1-w5.pet
gettext-0.17-w5.pet
glib-2.24.2-1-w5.pet
glibc-2.10.1-1-w5.pet
gtk+-2.20.1-1-w5.pet
libao-0.8.8-w5.pet
libart-2.3.20-w5.pet
libcap-2.17-w5.pet
libgee-0.5.2-w5.pet
libjpeg-7-w5.pet
libpng-1.2.44-patched_apng_t2-w5.pet
librsvg-2.32.1-w5.pet
libtiff-3.8.2-1-w5.pet
libx11-1.1.3-w5.pet
libxau-1.0.3-w5.pet
libxaw-1.0.4-w5.pet
libxcursor-1.1.9-w5.pet
libxdamage-1.1.1-w5.pet
libxdmcp-1.0.2-w5.pet
libxext-1.0.3-w5.pet
libxfixes-4.0.3-w5.pet
libxi-1.0.4-w5.pet
libxinerama-1.0.2-w5.pet
libxml2-2.7.6-w5.pet
libxpm-3.5.7-w5.pet
libxrandr-1.2.2-w5.pet
pango-1.28.1-w5.pet
pcre-8.00-1-w5.pet
pixman-0.18.4-w5.pet
sqlite-3.7.5-w5.pet
zlib-1.2.3-w5.pet
faac-1.28-w5.pet
faad2-2.7-w5.pet
ffmpeg-2010-09-23-1-w5.pet
libdc1394-2.1.2-w5.pet
libraw1394-2.0.2-w5.pet
libtheora-1.1.1-w5.pet
libvpx-0.9.2-i486-w5.pet
libxcb_base-1.1-w5.pet
opencore-amr-0.1.2-w5.pet
orc-0.4.9-w5.pet
schroedinger-1.0.9-w5.pet
SDL-1.2.14-w5.pet
speex-1.2rc1-w5.pet
vlc_nogui-1.1.5-w5.pet
x264-20100922-2245-w5.pet
xcb-proto-1.0-w5.pet
xcb-util-0.3.4-w5.pet
SDL-1.2.14-w5.pet
SDL_image-1.2.6-w5.pet
SDL_mixer-1.2.9-w5.pet
SDL_ttf-2.0.9-w5.pet

All works fine, this one will be the base for the next Puplite.

Posted: **Thu 16 Jun 2011, 20:27**

Your new PUPPY bases on the Wary core sounds like a great idea. Will be glad to give it a run when it comes out. That is what makes Puppy so great are the differ ways the programmer can build their own release.

Posted: **Thu 16 Jun 2011, 22:46**

How about...

ScottPup, or ScottiePup, or just Scottie...

(does suggest a small size)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Terrier

Or even KiltPup...

(suggests a lightweight size... and airy sensation

)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilt

Posted: **Fri 17 Jun 2011, 13:18**

l2ulinux wrote:Your new PUPPY bases on the Wary core sounds like a great idea. Will be glad to give it a run when it comes out. That is what makes Puppy so great are the differ ways the programmer can build their own release.

Yeah, I tried the compiling route, but couldn't get it done, as I'm no 'programmer' .. But it works well anyway, still using it , no issues so far..

Would like to know if I forgot to update anything though?

Cos I will also update BASH to 4.2, and maybe e2fsprogs plus a few other things, if needed.. I tried a few builds, had to remove some of the wary pets before the new build worked, not entirely sure which one was breaking things, as I removed a few "-w5.pet" files from the list, and then it worked

So if anyone knows of other things that should be updated with the list in my previous post, then let me know!

And about those names, anything but KiltPup - not that this is a good reason but it always annoyed me when I was little that people would assume I was Scottish (and certain nationalities always do) ... When you meet a guy called Dave, would you assume he comes from Daveland, or that the Dutch guy you know is called Holland?? (phew, rant over....)

Posted: **Sat 18 Jun 2011, 00:24**

@sc0ttman
Can you add some add-ons plugins to Webbrowser (Seamonkey or Firefox). Something are deliciuos like FlashGot or DownloadHelper ... to download Youtube files)
TK

Posted: **Sat 18 Jun 2011, 10:49**

vanchutr wrote:@sc0ttman
Can you add some add-ons plugins to Webbrowser (Seamonkey or Firefox). Something are deliciuos like FlashGot or DownloadHelper ... to download Youtube files)
TK

It will include a browser installer so you can choose which browser you want to use..
Only elinks (the terminal web browser) is installed by default.

One of the options in the browser installer is "Firedog 3.6" - this is a special version of Firefox 3.6, with more addons, built especially for Puppy Linux. You can search this forum for Firedog for more info.

EDIT: There are Seamonkey addons in the PPM, I may add some to Opera when I update it, and also SM2, if the Wary one works nice.

Also, on a different subject:

In the next Puplite, I will be replacing quite a few busybox applets with the full utilities found in the sysfsutils, gnutils, coreutils, findutils and util-linux packages, following Barrys work on Wary.

EDIT: Barry actually did the opposite, and found busybox lacking compared the to full utils, so I have been careful not to let busybox replace anything not already covered by busybox. I also did indeed replace a few busybox applets with the full utils..

I will also be upgrading anything already installed in Puplite, with the newer versions found in these packages. Something in one of these packages breaks things, and I'll have to find it.

I will also upgrade busybox from 1.18.2 to 1.18.4..

If anyone has any useful information on doing this, then please post here.

Posted: **Sat 18 Jun 2011, 22:59**

Thank you Sc0ttman
I'd found an cheat solution to install "FlashGot"
1. Delete /root/.mozilla/seamonkey
2. Unpack flashgot4seamonkey.tar.gz
3. Start seamonkey and approve to install Flashgot
That's all

This tar file used with seamonkey 2.xx

Posted: **Sun 19 Jun 2011, 15:16**

vanchutr wrote:Thank you Sc0ttman
I'd found an cheat solution to install "FlashGot"
1. Delete /root/.mozilla/seamonkey
2. Unpack flashgot4seamonkey.tar.gz
3. Start seamonkey and approve to install Flashgot
That's all

This tar file used with seamonkey 2.xx

just use you2pup to download from youtube.
i'd found it on wary 5
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=44960

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