Posted: Wed 20 Jun 2012, 19:30
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Try my post, I didn't check but it should be upbohocmasni wrote:404 not found
Thanks Is it a mirror of the build made by Iguleder or is it another build made from you ? Does it run with the latest puppy or with a specific release ?[b]01micko[/b] wrote:Try my post, I didn't check but it should be upbohocmasni wrote:404 not found
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 664#584664
By the way - if I get Trinity to build correctly, I intend to contribute my build scripts to upstream (e.g its GIT repository) and make Puppy one of the distributions supported by Trinity, officially - I want Puppy to appear in the Trinity homepage.
The reason why I haven't contributed my scripts is build failures later in the process, Trinity's applications simply fail to build because of many dependencies Puppy lacks. It takes lots of time to figure out how to build the entire Trinity tree (e.g not just the base) for Puppy, so I gave up.lvds wrote:And that is something I would love to see come true too, but that was back in 12 nov. 2011 and he may have been busy elsewhere. Contribute to the upstream is a whole job, and I hope Iguleder will continue its work a long time, but maintening a linux distribution is also a lot of job, so I think I can help on this
Ok, so even if you cannot contribute to the upstream, your built is strong enough to not crash when running ?Iguleder wrote:The reason why I haven't contributed my scripts is build failures later in the process, Trinity's applications simply fail to build because of many dependencies Puppy lacks. It takes lots of time to figure out how to build the entire Trinity tree (e.g not just the base) for Puppy, so I gave up.lvds wrote:And that is something I would love to see come true too, but that was back in 12 nov. 2011 and he may have been busy elsewhere. Contribute to the upstream is a whole job, and I hope Iguleder will continue its work a long time, but maintening a linux distribution is also a lot of job, so I think I can help on this
However, I still think a Trinity Puppy is an awesome idea.
Ok, I have spend a long time to read about all of this. It seems to me there is a future because they are building TDE 14.0.0. In my understanding it will bring users a KDE3 look and feel with Qt4 underground.Iguleder wrote: The reason I decided not to build one myself is simple - there are two complex technological challenges involved in such project:
- No Wayland/Mir/(whatever becomes the de-facto X11 replacement) support in KWin and Qt3. Trinity will die (or become almost impossible to maintain and integrate into a distro) in 1-3 years, unless someone ports it. Think of the last time someone built a distro without thinking of the future. I always see a distro as a product - the ability to maintain a product (e.g ensure technology it relies on now will also be there tomorrow) is crucial in the world of distros.
- Qt3 is old and today's applications no longer use it (so the distro is bigger and its UI is less consistent).
yes I read about it, but that means you need to embed Qt3 and Qt4 instead of one only... If it's only to run one app I'm not sure it's worth the "cost", but that is something I need to think aboutIguleder wrote:Qt3 and 4 can co-exist, so you can use KDE 4 applications inside Trinity and vice-versa. You don't need static linking to have this compatibility.
mmh... well, in the end everything may die, eventually. That does not mean we can't have a life. Butterflies lives only one day, still it's worthy (yes it is because one flap only of one butterfly over the ocean can twist the planet and send it upside down ... err, but, well, anyway. sorry) Everything changes when the time has come and we play with other toys... In the past we had puppy series 2, could you believe it, some people did not want to upgrade and sweared they will run serie 2 for the rest of their life, they delcared the upgrade heretic LOL ... I guess when KDE4 will end, we will play with KDE5Iguleder wrote:Also, the fact R14 is under development doesn't mean there will be R15. And no, it won't use Qt4, since the project decided to stick with Qt3. And even if it will, Qt4 is deprecated already, because of Qt5. Trinity is a relatively young project and it's already way behind - to be honest, I'm very pessimistic about its future.
I'm sorry if my post was misinterpreted. I didn't mean we shoudn't use Trinity; I think it's awesome and highly recommend it to those who seek a lightweight DE.lvds wrote:mmh... well, in the end everything may die, eventually. That does not mean we can't have a life.
Ok, let's say in the future we will use Shahor with KDE4 and I can't wait for it, and for now let's build something with what we have.Iguleder wrote:However, that's just my opinion. In the present, I think Puppy could benefit a lot from a Trinity puplet. Just think of all the SLAX 6.x and Porteus refugees