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Posted: Sun 18 Nov 2012, 23:48
by LinuxUser531700
01micko

I have a full install.

I looked at the thread through the link you provided. It's pretty much the same issue....desktop icons disappear...words change to little boxes or funny little characters that don't make sense.

Sorry, no screenshots.

I'm curious, as I had mentioned with another issue, I had been using LXpup which is also a Precise Pup. I've downloaded and installed multiple software programs with their dependencies without any issues, including Firefox. I wonder why the difference.

Posted: Mon 19 Nov 2012, 00:26
by 01micko
LinuxUser531700 wrote: I'm curious, as I had mentioned with another issue, I had been using LXpup which is also a Precise Pup. I've downloaded and installed multiple software programs with their dependencies without any issues, including Firefox. I wonder why the difference.
Good question, but perhaps Jejy69 uses my approach as in Slacko. He first started LXpup dev on slacko-533. Maybe worth a post over there?

The possible cause is located in a script, /etc/rc.d/rc.update.

Precise NOP 5.4.1

Posted: Mon 19 Nov 2012, 20:40
by Billtoo
Manual frugal install to the hard drive.
Installed proprietary nvidia driver and configured it for two monitors.

Report Video 1.4-Mon19Nov2012 on Precise Puppy 5.4.1 - Linux 3.2.29 i686

Chip description:
0.0 VGAcompatiblecontroller:NVIDIACorporationG84[GeForce8600GT](reva1)
oem: NVIDIA
product: G84 Board - p402h00 Chip Rev

X Server: Xorg Driver used: nvidia

X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (373x231 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (373x231 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
OpenGL
Vendor NVIDIA Corporation
Renderer GeForce 8600 GT/PCIe/SSE2
Version 3.3.0 NVIDIA 310.19
Direct Rendering Yes
Computer
Processor 4x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU Q6600 @ 2.40GHz
Memory 8310MB (165MB used)
I installed several applications using ppm.
It's working well.

Posted: Wed 21 Nov 2012, 17:36
by papos
gongratulation for this
on puppy precise-5.4.1 I can't see the cursor when recording the desktop ( x11grab) with pavrecord or ffmpeg and different cursor
but pointer is ok with Nearly Office Pup :-)
I have installed openshoot and firefox 16
I look forward to have a videothumbnail in thunar 1.4
I compiled tumbler-0.1.25.tar.bz2 from http://archive.xfce.org/xfce/4.10/src and ffmpegthumbnailer-2.0.8.a.tar.gz
but have no succes to have video and raw thumbnails
have you a devx_precise_5.4.1.sfs for preciseNOP-5.4.1?

Keeping a Nop current as the base puppy changes

Posted: Fri 23 Nov 2012, 15:05
by Henry
Nops are remasters of a particular puppy version. When bugs are fixed or features are added in that puppy, how can the Nop version benefit from them?

We saw this in RacyNop when the bugs in 5.2.2 continued after they were fixed in Racy-5.3. (Some were fixed by ozsouth's hybrid of RacyNop-5.3.2.) What to do short of asking gray for a new remaster?

Barry already has a service pack for Precise-5.4.1:

http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00039

Is there a way for the non-technical user (me) to adapt changes such as this, or less radical pets?

Re: Keeping a Nop current as the base puppy changes

Posted: Fri 23 Nov 2012, 15:11
by Terryphi
Error.

Re: Keeping a Nop current as the base puppy changes

Posted: Fri 23 Nov 2012, 15:12
by Terryphi
Error.

Re: Keeping a Nop current as the base puppy changes

Posted: Sat 24 Nov 2012, 17:01
by Henry
Thought this might bear repeating lest Terryphi's clangers obscure it :-)

But I also wanted to say that PreciseNop is the best yet - no problems. My question is just that, and I reckon I already know the answer. Still . . . is there a plan?

As far as package management goes - I've no idea. Tried looking at some Ubuntu packages, and they all seem to have a hundred or so dependencies. Well, mostly I just use the basic business and writing stuff I've always used. I couldn't ask for a better computer for that.
Henry wrote:Nops are remasters of a particular puppy version. When bugs are fixed or features are added in that puppy, how can the Nop version benefit from them? . . .

Barry already has a service pack for Precise-5.4.1:

http://bkhome.org/blog2/?viewDetailed=00039

Is there a way for the non-technical user (me) to adapt changes such as this, or less radical pets?

Updated Iso

Posted: Sun 25 Nov 2012, 05:16
by gray
Upgraded the iso to r1 (see main post)

Posted: Sun 25 Nov 2012, 22:24
by keniv
Hello All

I have just down loaded Precise nop 541 today. I like Opera as the browser (I use it with 528 which has been my main Puppy up to now). I am booting it with grubfordos from an ntfs partition with XP and a number of other frugal installs of other puppies. This is also working OK. However, I have a slight problem with the desktop after boot up. The clock shows as a black square with the hands still moving. The mouse pointer is also quite large and disappears if moved into a box to click on it. If I restart X the clock and the mouse pointer appear as normal. This happens with an old Toshiba laptop 800MHz and 320MB. From what has been said about old hardware I might have expected problems but it also does the same on an HP compaq 2.4GHz 1.5 GB which I would have thought would be good enough. Anybody else noticed this? I have uninstalled the widgets for the moment.

Regards,

Ken.

Re: Updated Iso

Posted: Mon 26 Nov 2012, 00:10
by Henry
gray wrote:Upgraded the iso to r1 (see main post)
Thanks, gray,
There's a lot I don't understand about this, so am taking a go-slow approach for now. Not even quite sure how to proceed from the state of my current pupsave. I think your remark "(hope I haven't been premature)" was prohetic, as Barry continues to tinker with the service pack.

Posted: Tue 18 Dec 2012, 11:02
by swiatmar
I am unable to delete trash!! The files are blocked in trash and unable to remove. Strange.......

Can't delete /tmp EDIT

Posted: Thu 20 Dec 2012, 05:51
by Henry
I wrote when PreciseNop first appeared:
I don't understand why I can't delete /tmp. Probably there's a good conservative reason?
There was no comment, and I more or less forgot about it. EVERYTHING works beautifully (that I know of), but I am curious about this. It's the same before and after r1.

When I try to delete /tmp I get two popups - first "moving files into the trash . . .," then immediately "unable to trash file; device or resource busy."

Later EDIT: But using "permanenty delete," at least with PreciseNop-.5.4.3, will not delete the folder, but its contents. Just clarifying. Looks like an improvement.

Posted: Fri 04 Jan 2013, 19:07
by venim1103
This is an awesome Puppy compilation.. The problem I have with it is that I can't find a proper devx.sfs file for it.

I tried using the Precise_5.4.1 devx and the only things that seemed to work with it were gcc and g++. Anything else such as gdb and python to name a few don't work with it.

I'm trying to install some gtk and xfce themes and most of them are using python for compiling, which I normally hate installing (it has always worked with the devx out of the box..)

Has anyone else tried installing any themes to this Puppy? Have you just used manual installing like moving files to /x/x/.themes etc.?

A happy user

Posted: Sat 05 Jan 2013, 05:37
by Henry
Hello,

Wish I could help with some of these questions, but i'm simply a keen long time user of the Nops, this being the best so far.

As always, I've upgraded from my previous Nop save file, in this case RacyNop-5.3.2 to PreciseNop-5.4.1, which .
I then upgraded the iso to r1, which included Service pack 5.4.1 and still later applied Precise service pack-5.4.2 to 5.4.2.3. Not sure this was legal, but it apparently did no harm, and the package manager seems to work well with the ubuntu repositories. (At least I got Bluefish-2.2.2 there, a later version than I found elsewhere.)

The point is I use this latest Nop continuously for diverse, heavy duty publishing, office, and web work without problems.

I am happy to recommend this quality puppy, as you can see. http://www.henrystrobel.com/linux.htm

Posted: Sun 06 Jan 2013, 18:15
by vicmz
Welcome to the second generation of Puppy Derivatives! :D
You have released a derivative based on a Puppy version made from the latest Woof2, that means non-English speakers will be able to use your derivative thanks to the official language packs available for Puppy, which at the moment are: French, German, Polish, Russian, and Spanish. Here you can read some documentation on how translations are made. Usually translators know how to adapt the langpacks for compatibility with Woof2 Puppy derivatives, but you can also help by telling what files or programs need translations.

update to v5.4.3

Posted: Sun 13 Jan 2013, 06:04
by gray
See main post - bug fixes since SP 5.4.1.1

Re: update to v5.4.3

Posted: Sun 13 Jan 2013, 14:12
by Henry
gray wrote:See main post - bug fixes since SP 5.4.1.1
Thank you, grey,

This must be one of the slickest upgrades yet. I simply upgraded my current precisesave file. A quick first look seems to indicate most everything works as before.

Henry
Screen: http://www.henrystrobel.com/linux.htm

Posted: Tue 15 Jan 2013, 14:56
by gilloraymondo
Hi
This Precise NOP 543 is simply wonderful !!!!

Everything is running fine.

Just 2 problems. The first one is already solved :
With Opera, I've problems with youtube.
Well, this isn't important. I've dowloaded firefox, and add a add on I like.
It should be better the to remove opera, but may be it isn't possible...

But with the second problem, I can't find how to do to solve it :

On toutou linux (french puppy version) or on Lucid Puppy, I can install amsn (an old version, but which works fine, is on a toutou linux repository).
But amsn cannot be found in the Precise NOP 542 repositories

And for some reasons, they are some usefuls things just like amsn or skype which are not on the ubuntu repositories, but they are on the "medibuntu" repository and it's very easy, with ubuntu, to add the "medibuntu" repository, opening a shell terminal.
But with Precise NOP 542, sudo apt-get don't work and I don't know what to write.
Somebody can help me ?
Thank you

Python?

Posted: Thu 17 Jan 2013, 18:26
by Fishy
Having problems with my installation of calibre not finding python. Pfind shows python 2.7 in /usr/lib but calibre which usually installs in /opt can't find it. Do I have to install a link? :?

Really like the minimalist approach. :D

Frugal Install