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Posted: Mon 17 Dec 2012, 22:58
by oui
hi simargl
simargl wrote:
oui wrote:I did see that Cups is build in but will not start both in Firefox or Seamonkey.
cupsd service in /etc/init.d is from original woof rootfs, and cups is installed
with all dependencies. You might see this guide
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CU ... r_packages
to install gutenprint foomatic and load linux-firmware sfs. See if right kernel
modules are loaded with lsmod.
we have 2 classic software connections through localhost in puppy

- Cups
- didiwiki (is in each official Puppy since years ago! only a full hand bytes, no dependence) at localhost:8000

Copy didiwiki from an other Puppy into /usr/bin and start it as deamon (manually or in /root/.start) as it is not available at Arch depos.

It will probably start and you can try to connect to didiwiki by invocation

localhost:8000

in each browser (links, elinks, links, midori, firefox, seamonkey). never failing.

did localhost:8000 or localhost:631 work on your PC (on my PC both don't work!)?

kind rgds

Posted: Tue 18 Dec 2012, 03:43
by James C
Fresh frugal install of ArchPup 12.12 on my Athlon XP box....along with the Archapps sfs. Zero problems. Sound,internet and display all working and correct on initial boot.
Already rebooted several times and everything is working smoothly. :)

Posted: Tue 18 Dec 2012, 04:07
by James C
Just for testing purposes I also did a traditional full install of ArchPup 12.12 on an old P4 test box......... along with Xubuntu, Zenwalk ,Vector and a bunch of Puppy installs.

Still tweaking on it but working pretty well so far.

Posted: Tue 18 Dec 2012, 04:24
by songzi
Hi simargl,

wlan0 is not up after archpup is up and running. I am using it on a Thinkpad x230. Its wireless wifi module shall be Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2200.

Any advice on how to load the driver module for this machine?

TIA. Like this Archpup very much. Thanks a lot.

Posted: Tue 18 Dec 2012, 04:57
by mavrothal
Keef wrote:Savefile: I've found that I need to make a savefile and not bother making any changes first time - they don't get saved.
Yes, looks like the usbsave call did not make it into rc.shutdown.
If you have made a savefile you can run "usbsave" in the terminal before the first shutdown to save your first boot changes .
simargl wrote: Well I thought about this and because it's not really possible to remove files from squashfs image, they are just renamed to .wh.filename, decided to just delete this whiteout files, in pupmode 13 and when savefile is created in pupmode 5. It is possible to overwrite them, only not to remove them, because they can never be really deleted.
Is not possible to remove files from the sfs but you can remove them from the working filesystem. That's exactly why the whiteouts exist.
What about if you want to install an app that conflicts with an existing one or you want to check if a specific file causes an issue?
You may want to incorporate the whiteout-handling related code from snapmergepuppy to usbsave to make archpup with a tempfs-mounted rw-layer fully functional.

Posted: Tue 18 Dec 2012, 07:46
by Tote
Hi simargl, thanks for your encouragement. I'm not about to give up, just proceeding painfully slowly....

I managed to create a savefile, it was outside the Arch folder in my partition, so I moved it inside, that seemed logical(?) but I'm not sure if anything is actually being saved to it.

Currently trying to figure out getting wi-fi to work... but I don't want to ask a lot of nooby questions and disrupt the thread. I pick up bits and pieces from reading the other posts.

'I shall endeavour to persevere'. :D

Posted: Tue 18 Dec 2012, 08:21
by spandey
Nice work !! How about moving this thread under Projects as it's not a derivative of any existing Puppy ? It's rather a project by itself.

Posted: Tue 18 Dec 2012, 08:30
by spandey
Please host the iso in some other place as having lot of problems downloading from dropbox.

Posted: Tue 18 Dec 2012, 08:32
by Keef
Glad to say that I'm not getting anymore lock-ups when doing reboot or logout.
Must have been a temporary glitch.

Posted: Tue 18 Dec 2012, 09:37
by simargl
spandey wrote:Please host the iso in some other place as having lot of problems downloading from dropbox.
See this: http://sourceforge.net/projects/archpup/, now to upload files, and download will be faster.

Posted: Tue 18 Dec 2012, 10:00
by spandey
Thank you so much!!! Please post all the iso's.

usb wifi

Posted: Tue 18 Dec 2012, 18:03
by Caved
Hallos,
I am trying to use Archpuppy on my old armada 1700 craptop, seems like my usb dongle doesn't come up in the network tool were the usuall weary 5.3 puppy does load the driver module. It's a Sitecom dongle and in weary it seems to load the rt2870sta driver as far as i can tell.

Am i supposed to load the thing manually? Maybe an idea to atleast add all the networking tools as they are in the official puppy weary? I'l do some testing see if i can get it going...

Have Fun!
Caved

Posted: Tue 18 Dec 2012, 21:22
by T_Hobbit
Pwireless still not working. See networks around but after double click/press connect, no password is asked.
Any change to install another software? Which alternative shall i use from arch repos? Wicd is a huge software with dependencies.

Still an amazing Puppy! Good work!

Posted: Tue 18 Dec 2012, 22:42
by simargl
James C wrote:Just for testing purposes I also did a traditional full install of ArchPup 12.12 on an old P4 test box......... along with Xubuntu, Zenwalk ,Vector and a bunch of Puppy installs.

Still tweaking on it but working pretty well so far.
Very interesting, I've never tried full install. That way you basically have real Arch Linux system minus systemd. 8)
songzi wrote:wlan0 is not up after archpup is up and running. I am using it on a Thinkpad x230. Its wireless wifi module shall be Intel Centrino Wireless-N 2200.
TIA. Like this Archpup very much. Thanks a lot.
T_Hobbit wrote:Pwireless still not working. Any change to install another software? Which alternative shall i use from arch repos? Wicd is a huge software with dependencies
Perhaps try with frisbee beta2.sfs from this page http://puppylinux.info/topic/archpup. Sorry cant help more. :(

Posted: Tue 18 Dec 2012, 23:53
by oui
Hi simargl

a/ where are the key maps from? under keyboard layout us_intl, the key have a completely other comportment as usual in all other puppys (all other Puppys have the same, with minimal difference, as you easily can test at ArchBang without to need to install as it is delivered as live system)! It is very bad because only your puplet causes great amount of tipping errors :oops:

b/ what is with printing on the ArchPup system from other users? on my PC, it is not possible to connect with "localhost" to start cups! and also not possible to use the puppy classic "didiwiki"!

rgds

Posted: Wed 19 Dec 2012, 07:53
by simargl
@oui: Keyboard layouts are provided by this package kbd-1.15.3-3-i686.pkg.tar.xz
I don't get typing errors, maybe you are using wrong keymap.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KEYMAP
There is problem with didiwiki connecting to localhost:8000, will try to fix that.

Posted: Wed 19 Dec 2012, 14:54
by oui
Hi Simargl

Thank you for the infos.

a: Keymap

I did find the solution: The line in /root/.start for setxkbmap has to be written in extended style! As follow:

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01 #!/bin/sh
02 mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/home
03 imlibsetroot -p c -s f /usr/share/backgrounds/default.jpg &
04 setxkbmap -layout us -variant intl &
05 numlockx on &
06 if [ ! -f /usr/share/mime/globs ]; then update-mime-database /usr/share/mime; fi
07 if [ ! -f /etc/machine-id ]; then dbus-uuidgen > /etc/machine-id; fi
08 if [ ! -f /usr/lib/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders.cache ]; then gdk-pixbuf-query-loaders 09 --update-cache; fi
10 mpg123 /usr/share/audio/login.mp3 &
11 sleep 2s
12 tint2 &
13 sleep 2s
14 conky &
15 volumeicon &
16 sleep 5s
17 didiwiki &
18 ifconfig lo up &
19 rdate -s tick.greyware.com
20 exit
See pls lines 02, 04 and 17/18 !

Consult the doc /usr/share/X11/xkb/rules/xorg.lst .

b: Sound level

I would be interesting to enter in line 15 a noise level (because I use a earphone and the noise level can really be excessive at starting point. is that possible?

rgds

Note1: you did use a different writing to name the iso and the sfs! It generates writing errors :roll: ...
Note2: concerning line 02, a dir /mnt/home would be needed in the archpup-1212.sfs and each user has to enter is own partition number!
Why an "home" directory?
You can for example prepare in the archpup-1212.sfs a /root/.history with following content:

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cd /mnt/home/archpup
mkdir install
cp -a /initrd/pup_ro2/* /mnt/home/archpup/install
mv /mnt/home/archpup/archpup-1212.sfs /mnt/home/archpup/archpup-1212.last1
mksquashfs install archpup-1212.sfs -comp xz -b 524288 -Xbcj x86
pacman -Ss > PackageList.txt
pacman -Ss browser
pacman -Sfd mtpaint
pacman -Syu
and have in ready-to-use form prepared actions for important steps to adapt the system...
nothing to do else as "cursor up" and return, or very little changes :wink:

etc. ...

Posted: Wed 19 Dec 2012, 15:50
by simargl
Alsa sound levels are saved on reboot to file /etc/asound.state. If you want to remaster iso
with new audio levels just copy that file to new rootfs, or use alsactl store to update.
I see you install mtpaint, for me only image editor needed is http://pixlr.com/ 8)
edit: to connect localhost:8000 type this first in terminal

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 ifconfig lo up
That should start automatically with rc.sysinit and will be fixed for new releases.

Posted: Wed 19 Dec 2012, 16:28
by slenkar
new version is very good

when I do packer -Sy it updates the databases for AUR but refuses to find any package in AUR that I search for

e.g.

packer -S mangler
doesnt work after updating databases with:
packer -Sy

Posted: Wed 19 Dec 2012, 16:34
by simargl
To search also in AUR run this first

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update-ca-certificates 
That needs perl so either load archdev.sfs or install perl with pacman. Good luck