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Posted: **Sat 09 Oct 2010, 16:17**

is working in gimp (but curiously not with mtpaint-3.34.55

Maybe try another version of mtpaint

http://www.datafilehost.com/download-6cf9e057.html

This is the previous version that came out 5 months ago.

Posted: **Tue 12 Oct 2010, 17:39**

I spent the weekend testing charlie6's new driver.
First of all thanks for all your hard work.
I was frightened to even attempt to try to compile this driver.
Here's my report:

I successfully installed the wacom-0.10.8_xorg_driver.pet
in lupq 511 following the instructions on the first page
of this thread.

I was unsuccessful in installing the driver on other
Lucid Puppies.

Just like you I wasn't able to get mtpaint 3.34.55
to respond to pressure, so I tried other versions
of mtpaint that I got from dragging out of other
distributions.

Here are my results:

Wary009 -----> mtpaint 3.1 pressure worked!
spup -----> mtpaint 3.1 pressure worked!
pfluxlite -----> mtpaint 3.1 pressure worked!
Lighthouse 5 -----> mtpaint 3.1 pressure worked!

Lighthouse 4.43 ----> mtpaint 3.34.33 pressure didn't work
Fluppy ----------> mtpaint 3.35 pressure didn't work

I tried compiling mtpaint with different options to find
what is causing the problem, but I couldn't get any version
of mtpaint 3.34.55 to respond to pressure input while
using lupq 511

But surprisingly Lighthouse Puppy 4.43 will work properly
with my version of mtpaint 3.34.55 including pressure input.

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With the driver installed, I have a small problem with rebooting.
When I reboot, the screen goes black for about 5 seconds.
This makes me think that I have crashed my machine, but
then the rebooting process proceeds correctly.
Do you have this problem? I think 'xorg.conf' needs to be modified.
Did you put anything special in your 'xorg.conf' ?
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Posted: **Thu 14 Oct 2010, 05:35**

Hi Don,
many thanks for your time and efforts in testing several mtpaint version and installation ! I can imagine how many time spent done all that !

I got a try on the mtpaint version given in your previous post without change. Thanks anyway for your time!

I was unsuccessful in installing the driver on other
Lucid Puppies.

Honestly, I hav'nt time at now to check those version. Maybe it could be a Xorg-version matter.

Here is my understanding when reading through the wacom-project website (More here: http://linuxwacom.sourceforge.net/):
there are 2 drivers needed to get the wacom tablet working:
(I believe Pizzasgood have already mentionned it on page 1 this thread)
1. a kernel driver : Pizzasgood's compiled drivers at page 1 this thread (for Lupq the already present wacom.ko may be used - at now oct.13 2010, I could not find a new driver for k 2.6.33.2 on wacom-projetc website);
2. a wacom-Xorg driver which is xorg-version dependent: wacom web site mentions version higher or lower than 1.7 for selecting the Xorg-driver-version.
For instance, Jemimah's wacom-0.10.7_xorg_driver.pet cannot work on Lupq as xf86-input-wacom-0.10.7 version works for Xorg-version lower than 1.7.
Lupq Xorg-version is 1.76; the 0.10.8 version has just been issued by begin october 2010 ... we have got good luck they have issued it !

...Here are my results:
...mtpaint 3.1 pressure worked!
...mtpaint 3.34.33 pressure didn't work...

I am happy pressure works for some mtpaint version/installation.
Having tested Gimp on Lupq: pressure works; for instance I got a well pressure dependent line width using the calligraphy option.
Question: how do you check that pressure is working? Are you Just checking the pressure value indicator present in the "test zone" in the tablet setup dialog box?
My meaning is: for instance on puppy 4.20 + mtpaint3.31, the displayed pressure value is varying accordingly with the applied stylus pression. So I can conclude "the pressure works". But while drawing, I cannot get a pressure dependent line width. Line width remains constant. Now I wonder if a Gimp-like calligraphy option is present on mtpaint. Maybe there is not one yet ...!

Also, I believe mtpaint considerations not to be linked with the wacom drivers (as it is working on Gimp). Maybe it would be preferable to open a new thread - or resume to an existing pet - for discussions about mtpaint use.

Thanks for any comment.
Have fun !
(must leave now...)
Cheers, Charlie

Posted: **Thu 14 Oct 2010, 22:55**

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My meaning is: for instance on puppy 4.20 + mtpaint3.31, the displayed pressure value is varying accordingly with the applied stylus pression. So I can conclude "the pressure works". But while drawing, I cannot get a pressure dependent line width. Line width remains constant. Now I wonder if a Gimp-like calligraphy option is present on mtpaint. Maybe there is not one yet ...!

That is very unusual. I've never seen that behaviour in Ubuntu or Puppy.
I highly recommend lighthouse puppy 4.43 for artists since the pressure
feature works beautifully.

When I tried the dragged-over-copies of mtpaint 3.31 in lupq I had no problems
at all. The test box shows that pressure is working and just stroking the stylus
on the window shows that it is working well i.e. opacity and width depend on pressure.
...and gimp is stable as a rock.
lupq is a very nice operating system.

I forgot to mention that I use a Bamboo tablet.

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Posted: **Sat 16 Oct 2010, 15:18**

Hi all !

When I tried the dragged-over-copies of mtpaint 3.31 in lupq I had no problems
at all

I got the same result as yours: the pressure is working on mtpaint-3.31 !
(on wacom Volito 1 tablet)
On a fresh lupq-save session, I first have got rid of all files of mtpaint-3.34.55; and afterwards installed muggins's compiled mtpaint-3.31, see here (thanks Muggins !)
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=22164
His post also direct to mtpaint-NLS and -Doc pets download links.

UPDATED by 01 december 2010 ( thanks Craig

)
wacom-0.8.8.10" drivers now tested and working in Puppy 5.1.x
See later post:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 459#467459

Have fun
Charlie

Posted: **Sat 16 Oct 2010, 16:47**

To charlie;

I forgot to metion that mtpaint requires it's preferences to be set
correctly to get pressure to work. The boxes 'size' 'flow' and
'opacity' need to be ticked, otherwise you don't see any effect.

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I did a second install of lupq to check and I discovered
several interesting things.

I believe that xorgwizard needs to run before installation off the
wacom driver in order to create a section "ServerLayout"

I discovered this by looking at the xorg.conf file supplied by shinobar
and there was no section "ServerLayout" When I put one in and did
a restart of X I got a black screen and a message to run xorgwizard
When I did this , a standard xorg.conf file was created and it was
easy to modify for a wacom tablet. It works well except
that I get a period of black screen when I do a reboot. Ordinarily
this is no problem, but because I had no pupsave file, this causes
problems. How will I create a pupsave file? The obvious answer
is to create one before installing the wacom driver.

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I also discovered in this second installation that the wacom
driver is permanent whereas in my first installation I have to
type 'modprobe wacom' each session. Not sure why???

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I tried the newest version of Gimp 2.7.2 and although it was stable
I was disappointed that only the calligraphy tool responded to pressure.
Obviously a lot of work needs to be done.

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Posted: **Sun 17 Oct 2010, 08:17**

Hi don,
thanks for your message !

I believe that xorgwizard needs to run before installation off the
wacom driver in order to create a section "ServerLayout"

I got the same behaviour - just ran xorgwizard to create the xorg.conf. Meanwhile I do not know the reason therefore.

...I get a period of black screen when I do a reboot

Same behaviour here - I did not matter/bother about that ...should I ?
Xorg server may just need some delay for starting...

...How will I create a pupsave file?

I send you a PM (personal message).
Any comment from forum is welcome.
Cheers, Charlie

Posted: **Wed 20 Oct 2010, 19:11**

charlie6 wrote:I got the same result as yours: the pressure is working on mtpaint-3.31 !

If the problem with mtPaint 3.34.55 is what I think it is, "touch ~/.mtpaint" will fix it (versions 3.34.49 to 3.34.55 are unable to create inifile if it doesn't exist, so couldn't remember tablet configuration settings).
This bug is fixed in version 3.34.56.

Other than that, with the very same mtPaint 3.34.55 binary from lupq 511, pressure works OK on my system (using Wacom Bamboo MTE-450 tablet).

-= With best regards, Dmitry Groshev, maintainer of mtPaint =-

Posted: **Thu 21 Oct 2010, 22:41**

I compiled the new version of mtpaint 3.34.56
and used it on Lighthouse Puppy5
and lupq 5.1.1 and it solved the problem of a .mtpaint file
not being saved to disk.

...but the previouly reported problem of the pressure not responding properly
remains both in lupq 5.1.1 and Lighthouse 5

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BTW
Version 3.34.55 worked perfectly on Lighthouse 4.43 , perhaps because
I was upgrading and there was an old .mtpaint file already existing.

Posted: **Wed 27 Oct 2010, 18:24**

I am reporting successful install of wacom driver
on luci 233 -beta version of lupu 5.2

My method:

I highly recommend making a pupsave file first!!!

Next, install charle6 's wacom driver.(previous page)

Next step is to get the operating system to recognize the driver.

I was able to do this with the terminal commands

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depmod
modprobe wacom

Next you must have an appropriate xorg.conf file

I use the same trick as I used for installing a wacom driver on lupq

So if you want to use this method , you should go to start menu and fire up the
prompt . Type in 'xorgwizard' and go thru the usual Puppy video driver
installation which only takes a few seconds. You type 'xwin' to get out
of this text mode and back to desktop.

This changes your xorg.conf file so that it is 'conventional' one
i.e. it has a section that has a 'Server Layout'
I think you can figure out the rest yourself, but here's my
'Server Layout' for a Bamboo tablet

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Section "ServerLayout"
    # For non-LCD tablets only
    # Only a few TabletPCs support this type
   # For Intuos3/CintiqV5/Graphire4/Bamboo tablets
    Identifier     "X.org Configured"
    Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
    InputDevice    "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
    InputDevice    "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
    InputDevice    "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
    InputDevice    "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
    InputDevice    "touch" "SendCoreEvents"
    InputDevice    "pad"
EndSection

and then after the definitions of mouse and keyboard
I inserted

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Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "stylus"
    Driver         "wacom"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"    # USB ONLY
    Option         "Type" "stylus"
    Option         "USB" "on"                  # USB ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "eraser"
    Driver         "wacom"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"    # USB ONLY
    Option         "Type" "eraser"
    Option         "USB" "on"                  # USB ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "cursor"
    Driver         "wacom"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"    # USB ONLY
    Option         "Type" "cursor"
    Option         "USB" "on"                  # USB ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "pad"
    Driver         "wacom"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"    # USB ONLY
    Option         "Type" "pad"
    Option         "USB" "on"                  # USB ONLY
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "touch"
    Driver         "wacom"
    Option         "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"    # USB ONLY
    Option         "Type" "touch"
    Option         "USB" "on"                  # USB ONLY
EndSection

restart X

Hope that isn't to confusing.
But I still have the screen go black a few seconds when I choose reboot.

Note: An alternate way to create a new xorg.conf file is to delete your current
xorg.conf file and then reboot. The operating system will check
while booting up and run xorgwizard when it finds no file exists. This creates a new compatible xorg.conf file.

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Posted: **Fri 29 Oct 2010, 18:39**

Hello,

Maybe this is bad practice, but I'm getting desperate to make my system operational. I got Wacom working in lupq, 5.1.1. But because of some unrelated issue, the wireless will not setup. It was suggested that I try a 4.3.1 system. Wireless works great; but I cant get the Wacom working. Apparently the .pet which worked nicely in 5.1.1 isnt a go for 4.3.1. Honestly, trying to follow the conversation about the various pets and linux versions leaves me dazed and confused.

In the 5.1.1, it was

1. download and install XXX.pet
2. Add lines of text to xorg.conf
3. Working Wacom Tablet!

In 4.3.1 is it

1. Download and install ???.pet?
2. Use same text additions to xorg.conf (that worked in 5.1.1)?

Section "ServerLayout"
InputDevice "Synaptics Mouse" "AlwaysCore"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "cursor"
Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
Option "Type" "cursor"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4"
Option "Button2" "3"
Option "CursorProx" "256"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "stylus"
Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
Option "Type" "stylus"
Option "PressCurve" "50,0,100,50"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4"
Option "Button2" "3"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "eraser"
Option "Device" "/dev/ttyS0"
Option "Type" "eraser"
Option "ForceDevice" "ISDV4"
Option "Button2" "3"
EndSection

Thanks and best regards,

Joe

Posted: **Fri 29 Oct 2010, 21:36**

I've been battling with this as well, and after trying various combinations i have noticed that the wacom setup seems to have less problems with xfce than jwm... i don't know why???
I have a Bamboo CTL-460

With puppy 4.3.1 i could get everything to work except pressure.
When i tried it in NOP which runs under xfce, everything worked!!

I had tried under puppy Lupu 5.1.1 with no sucsess.
then Lupq (which really has a friendly setup

), which worked without pressure.

Then on a hunch i frugaled i new puppy Lupu 5.1.1 and installed the xfce pet.
Charlie6s lupq kernal driver works on Lucid with xfce. Still having problems with pressure though.... i think it has somthing to do with the xorg driver... i don't really know???

I also tryed compiling a kernal driver but i don't really know what i am doing!!!

so the news is that lucid 5.1.1 with xfce is showing some positive results, if anyone wants to have a go at fixing the pressure problem i would be more than pleased

Posted: **Fri 29 Oct 2010, 21:46**

jump wrote:I had tried under puppy Lupu 5.1.1 with no sucsess.
then Lupq (which really has a friendly setup ), which worked without pressure.

I wonder why it works on LupQ and not on Lupu.

They have different version of jwm, but not big difference.
MtPaint's are different version.
The kernel, glibc and xorg is the same...

Posted: **Sat 30 Oct 2010, 16:51**

Apparently the .pet which worked nicely in 5.1.1 isnt a go for 4.3.1. Honestly, trying to follow the conversation about the various pets and linux versions leaves me dazed and confused.

I used earlier pet on my lighthouse 4.43 installation (equivalent to puppy4.3.1)
and it worked fine.

There's no need to panic while doing this. I just trash my bad xorg.conf file
and reboot. The fresh start creates a new xorg.conf and you can have another
try. The basic rule (as best I know) is

1) 'ServerLayout' section needs to be completely replaced
2) You must insert after mouse and keyboard definitions your definitions
for stylus , eraser, cursor,pad, touch.

...but maybe it's different for other wacom products. Look through this thread
for other suggestions. I use a wacom Bamboo tablet. Your computer is
very rare but you did get it to work once. That's good.

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Another suggestion ..... I always save a copy of a working xorg.conf file
and keep notes on how I successfully installed something.
It's good practice.
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Dejan has put together a new version of gimp
http://puppy.b0x.me/software/squeeze/gi ... queeze.pet

That works on luci as well
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To shinobar .... It works beautifully on luci233 and lighthouse5 as well.
There's the problem with the recent versions of mtpaint but
the maintainer Dimitri is working on this. In fact I just got
an email from him .

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Posted: **Mon 01 Nov 2010, 10:26**

Bonjour !

Joe Jasniewski wrote:...Apparently the .pet which worked nicely in 5.1.1 isnt a go for 4.3.1. Honestly, trying to follow the conversation about the various pets and linux versions leaves me dazed and confused.
...
1. Download and install ???.pet?
2. Use same text additions to xorg.conf (that worked in 5.1.1)?
...

«isnt a go for 4.3.1»
On page 1 this thread are given kernel dependent wacom drivers which also have the xorg driver included: see paragraph 2. on page 1 (for pup 4.3.1 non retro - i.e. with kernel 2.6.30.5 - you need the wacom-0.8.4-4-k2.6.30.5.pet and only this one. Then follow Pizzasgood howto (it is good to read carefully across his explanations to understand - as also to learn a bit more - how it works).

Afterwards edit the xorg.cong with addition of the wacom "bits": be carefull deleting or commenting the lines which are NOT RELEVANT of your hardware ( i.e. adding a '# ' without quotes in front of the line; then the commented lines must turn to grey color once commented=disabled): for instance, if a USB tablet connected then delete the lines containing "/dev/ttyS0" = related to a SERIAL tablet connection.
I personaly have deleted the comments as '# USB tablet only' as I experienced that text was not disabled (did not turned to grey color; and so could be interpreted as a command...in doubt I prefered to delete it) in the xorg.conf on some installations.
Example: see my copy of the wacom's xorg.conf bits on page 10.

Important: about "stylus" section,

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...
Section "InputDevice"
  Driver        "wacom"
  Identifier    "stylus"
  Option        "Device"        "/dev/input/wacom"
  Option        "Type"          "stylus"
  Option        "USB"           "on"
  Option        "Mode"          "Relative"
  Option        "AlwaysCore"    "on"
  Option        "Speeed"        "1.0"
  Option        "Threshold"     "10" 
EndSection
...

There the ' Option "Mode" "Relative" ' lets the stylus moves as a mouse, i.e. the cursor does not return to one of the screen corners when stylus is lifted off the tablet. It is ggod to know that that option also prevent use of pressure sensitivity on mtpaint.
So if you need pressure using mtpaint then you need to comment (=disable) that line, ...and of course afterwards restart X server to activate the modified xorg.conf setting.

So hope this helps.
Sorry if beeing a bit too explicit.

Bien amicalement !
Charlie

Posted: **Mon 01 Nov 2010, 19:42**

I tried out the latest Puppy.

I was able to use my Wacom Bamboo tablet with Wary 094.
The pressure sensitivity worked with mtpaint 3.31
I installed wacom-0.8.4-4_xorg_driver.pet from
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=16491

It was simple to install because xorg.conf already had a
'ServerLayout' section

Note that it wouldn't work when I tried the following:
wacom-0.10.7_xorg_driver.pet
wacom-0.10.8_xorg_driver.pet

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Note to Joe Jasniewski

It seems like wacom-0.8.4-4_xorg_driver.pet is
the only version that will work with Puppy 4.3.1

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Posted: **Mon 01 Nov 2010, 23:17**

I was thinking that I might buy a tablet input device for testing on Wary, but the Wacom Bamboo is not cheap, $239 (Perth, Australia, AU Dollars -- about same as US):

http://www.ple.com.au/?p=snapshot&inventory_id=749

Any online supplier that is significantly cheaper, or any alternate brand? -- surely something from China can be obtained for far less than that price.

Posted: **Tue 02 Nov 2010, 00:06**

Here in Canada you can get the WACOM BAMBOO for as little as
$69 CAN +16% sales tax but here's the catch...

The active area is only about 4x6 inches and there's no software inside.
This is good enough for me and probably for you since we get
the 'free' linux software. I like it for small artwork and drawings.
See my puppy on left.

There is a better model that has
Corel® Painter™ Essentials 4 inside the box. It's a good quality
program but it doesn't support layers and it's definitely not for linux.

http://www.wacom.com/bamboo/bamboo_pen.php

There is another competing company in China but who knows if
their product would work in Puppy.

I noticed that Ubuntu linux says it supports AIPTEK

http://www.aiptek.com/Tablets/ST12/Features/

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AiptekTablet

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Posted: **Tue 02 Nov 2010, 00:28**

I was able to use an earlier driver wacom-0.8.4-4-k2.6.30.5.pet

http://www.browserloadofcoolness.com/so ... 6.30.5.pet

on the latest luci 234 (just released )

However it still requires a pupsave file to be created first
because of period of black screen when choosing 'reboot'

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Posted: **Tue 02 Nov 2010, 14:25**

I have done some research:

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01918
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01917
http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=01915

I have compiled the Wacom 0.8.8-10 driver for Wary.

I also compiled the Wizardpen driver that supports many brands of tablets other than Wacom. Some of these other brands are about 1/3 the price of Wacom here in Australia.

(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

How to set up a Wacom Tablet

try another version of mtpaint

mtpaint 3.31 responds to pressure in lupq

mtpaint 3.31 responds to pressure in lupq

wacom + mtpaint

wacom tablet stylus pressure vs mtpaint version

install wacom driver in lupq

Re: wacom tablet stylus pressure vs mtpaint version

new version of mtpaint compiled

successful install on luci 233 -beta version of lupu 5.2

How to install Wacom in 4.3.1?

Lupu vs. LupQ

which wacom driver?

Re: How to install Wacom in 4.3.1?

success with Wary 094

cost of wacom Bamboo

reporting success