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First success .

From a menu I can select sap6 and it boots to the desktop.

Keyoard isn't working, so it's only a small success . I guess it has to do with mksqashfs. Without /lib/modules (as suggested), I get kernel panic, with these, I get no keyboard. But it's a start .

I hold the line,
Rolf

Here's a sneak peek at my secret raspi project

Thanks Mick

. . . for taunting us . . .
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Hi,
no positive news about multi boot so far.

No matter I use alpha 2 or 3, including /lib/modules or not, it allways boots to the desktop and no keyboard available. I tried different options in cmdline.txt but without knowledge, only try and error. I guess that we must wait till one of the big dogs (meaning one with more knowledge than me ) will be interested.

Differences to the HOWTO:
kpartx doesn't work for me. I couldn't find it in the Slackware repos (Slacko 5.3.3.1), using a .deb file, I wasn't patient enough to solve all dependencies.

In Lucid 528 I could install kpartx with alll dependencies(?) but get an error message during run.

Well, at last we don't need kpartx, if we have the extracted files at partition 2 of the sd card or a copy of them (that's what I used).

I guess that all we need is the mksquash command.

The option -comp lzo doesn't work for me (get the message: not supported). So I used and Last point, the converted file must be placed in /images.

If anybody has an idea what's wrong, please tell me.

Thanks,
Rolf

Edit: a small step further.
Keyboard works, but not the arrow keys and no mouse support (at least).
With F12 the menu pops up, I can select with "h","j", "k", "l" and ENTER key, no arrow keys. Mouse doesn't work. Tested both with usb and wireless.

If anybody has an idea what's wrong, please tell me.

Ask Dr Love
http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2012/ ... sfeed=true

. . . Oh you mean about multiboot
Don't know - bring on the smart dogs . . .

Alpha4 is released:

http://bkhome.org/blog/?viewDetailed=02910

testing Alpha4

Sound works OOTB (I can only use analog)

Light browsing seems fine.

If you are interested I wrote a small gtkstatusicon in C to pop up "mixmos". It's very simple, you could make it more complex but I don't see the point.

PET <-- http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/armv6/p ... -armv6.pet

SOURCE <-- http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/armv6/s ... .1.tar.bz2

On printing, I can't test! My printer needs either a special driver or gutenprint-5.2.8. I might compile gutenprint (overnigtht ). Printing fails with cups-1.5.3 in Wheezy Arm Puppy.

First tests with alpha4:

My first impression, it's a good one.
German keyboard layout works fine.

Still problems with firewall. I can't install firewall during first boot or menu->Setuo->Firewall Wizard. Allways get the message Moving to /usr/sbin and running firewallinstallsh directly works and firewall installs.

I'll test more during the day/evening.

btw. Alpha4 works also with multiboot now . No more problems with keyboard or mouse. By now I've installed 10 (ten!) distros on a 8GB sd card and still have ~ 4.2 GB free space.

~Rolf

@rhadon

maybe a valid terminfo is missing for rxvt-unicode-256color.

aragon

Finally in Alpha 4 - problems with dd in Slacko 5.3.3.2
took for ever to recognise my SD card . . .

Anyway tested sound.
Did not seem to work
typed in depmod at console and rebooted
(not even sure if that makes a real difference)

Then opened gnome mplayer from icon and was able to play ivy.mp3
This was the only file that seemed to play.
It played once and then I had to reboot to play again

The ivy.mp3 was the best test file in Puppi cockroach too incidentally. The sound is quiet even with mixmos set to full.

From strangled wasp to actual sound, progress

Lobster wrote:Finally in Alpha 4 - problems with dd in Slacko 5.3.3.2
took for ever to recognise my SD card . . .

Thia is often a hardware issue. Those cheapy (and some not so cheap) card readers are to blame, I had the same until I switched readers, now no problem.

Lobster wrote:typed in depmod at console and rebooted
(not even sure if that makes a real difference)

Lobster, that bug is only in my Wheezy build, Sap6 uses the older style depmod and modules tools. Sound is working out of the box in Sap6!

Lobster wrote:The sound is quiet even with mixmos set to full.

I think for decent sound you needa a pair of powered speakers. Since raspi is so low powered it's probably sending minimal current through the sound circuit, probably only enough to just drive your headphones. My 120W powered monitors ( read sound monitors ) sound great!!

Barry

When I plug in my usb HDD I don't get the drive icons (2 partitions, ntfs and ext4). Need to run Pmount to use it.

Attempting to compile gutenprint-5.2.8 now.

EDIT: Yes! Printing works for me with gutenprint-5.2.8 .. more tomorrow, having a beer now! (tested with a .doc from abiword).

EDIT2: Got that problem with Xorg not dying, had to hard power off.. I reckon it's a kernel issue because my new kernel actually powers down the Pi (different xorg version though). Sap6 has never done that. The filesystem check was started and seemed successful.


(later edits are fixing typos due to beer )

Thanks mick - using unpowered speakers
Gonna get better reader

http://www.engadget.com/2012/07/19/chro ... available/

Browser

I think for decent sound you needa a pair of powered speakers

Yep that worked. I think they are 5 watt - good enough.

Also downloaded the devx.
Had to copy all the devx files to /
and reboot. Is that right? Can SFS be loaded automatically yet?

Just compiled the ubiquitous 'hello world' like so:

aragon wrote:maybe a valid terminfo is missing for rxvt-unicode-256color.

Maybe, but I don't know where to look for.

Lobster wrote:problems with dd in Slacko 5.3.3.2
took for ever to recognise my SD card . . .

After installing .img files with dd and sync (internal card reader, EeePc), I can't mount the card. Gparted shows allways yellow triangles for partition 1 and 2. After moving the swap partition to the end (or creating one), the triangles disappear and everything is fine. This worked everytime for me.

01micko wrote:When I plug in my usb HDD I don't get the drive icons (2 partitions, ntfs and ext4). Need to run Pmount to use it.

I tested 2 usb hds, one with some ext3 and ext4 partitions and one with some vfat and ext3 partitions. Drive icons work as expected. So I would guess, it's a problem with ntfs.

HTH,
Rolf

antiloquax wrote:
glxgears test

"Safe" overclock: best reading was 19.170 fps

No overclock: 19.077 fps

Over-voltage: 26.994 fps
Over-voltage with swapon - 29.103

Thought I'd run this in Arch, just for fun.
This was in the "safe" overclock settings, with swapon:
31.844 fps

Just a couple of comments on SAP6 alpha-4.

The sound "just works" OTB on my powered analogue speakers (I have not tried them on previous alpha versions). I did not go thru any set-up of ALSA. There is occasional static coming thru them; the speakers are quite inexpensive ones just purchased from Walmart, so the static problem could be in the quality of the speakers (I have not used them before on a different system). I used GNOME MPlayer to play some MP3 files.

I am not hearing the "Woof-Woof" during the boot up of Puppy. Has this not been added yet?

The CUPS 1.4.4 continues to work (I used it in alphas 1 and 2 but not try it in 3). It found my HP 6500 e710n multifunction printer (wirelessly connects to my router, R_pi connects by wired ethernet to the router) without difficulty, and installed it using the drivers found in HPLIP.

When one clicks on the "Setup CUPS Printing" choice in the "Setup" Desktop icon, the user is routed thru an info page which says that HPLIPlite is available, but PPM is unable to find HPLIPlite. HPLIP (heavy!) could be found and that I what I used for my printer driver.

PPM is still installing the Ace-of-Penguins games under Utilities/General Utilities/name-of-game; however Mahjong installs under the "Fun" menu. I am still seeing the "line 1 : syntax error: unexpected '(' " during the updating and processing of the databases.

Rolf

Thanks for keeping us abreast of your multiboot testing!

Since, In my opinion, booting Puppy using only only SFS files and a PUPSAVE file is one of Puppies greatest strengths (among many!), multiboot interests me greatly. Since the Pi must un-compress binaries located inside SFS files, does the Pi seem to launch the binaries slower? I assume the core SFS file is to large to be resident in RAM as it is on my x86 machine with LOTS of RAM? Since the read speed is fairly slow on a typical Pi SDHC card, the time it takes to un-compress might be negligible because less information must be read from the SDHC media? However, this may not be true if the full install and SFS installs were being read from a FASTER USB2.0 attached hard drive/SSD? I am currently trying out Puppy Alpha-4 and Raspbian and have /root for each on two ext4 partitions on an external hard drive. I simply change some settings in the SDHC vfat /boot partition to select which OS to boot. BTW, both OS's are more responsive using /boot from the external hard drive. This external USB hard drive is connected to and is being powered by a USB port on my Motorola LapDock.

What I would like to do is multiboot from a large SDHC card (slow but most portable), large USB stick (faster but must give up a USB port) and a USB spinning/SS drive (hopefully faster than a USB stick but still gives up a USB port and draws more battery power when disconnected from the 110 outlet). Binary loading time testing needs to be performed to verify my speed assumptions.

At this time Raspbian appears to be slightly more responsive that Puppy Alpha-4, but It appears the Puppy Gods are looking at Raspbian armhf for a future Puppy version (YEAH!!!) Hopefully the Raspbian/Puppy developers will incorporate the assembly language SSL code to speed up SSH and HTTPS. When this happens, I predict Puppy will be the official OS recommended by the Raspberry Pi foundation (but I have been wrong many times in the past).

Thanks Again Rolf!
Regards, Ron

Gutenprint!

This has heaps of new drivers,

http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/armv6/p ... -armv6.pet

dev,nls in folder http://www.smokey01.com/01micko/armv6/p ... s-squeeze/

Note to Barry, needed krb5-multidev squeeze package to compile as gssapi.h is not in the libkrb5-dev package.[ strange]

This will fix some local printing issues ie: no driver for your printer. There are lots of new Canon drivers and others.

I am not hearing the "Woof-Woof" during the boot up of Puppy. Has this not been added yet?

Not been added. Not sure if Barry has sound yet. I have sound from headphone not yet on HDMI.
I changed my TV from auto to PCM audio output. No difference. Still trying to find some elusive setting . . .