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Re: AUDIO : You Tube garbled. Solved
Posted: Mon 16 Oct 2017, 02:43
by bigpup
hamoudoudou wrote:This Zest pup version is very slow.. Kernel has been changed.
Need computer specs.
How installed?
Installed on what data storage device?
Specific version of Zestypup?
Zestypup is a fresh clean install and nothing has been added!
Specific details on doing something that seems slow.
The details need to specifically say what is being done, so we can try to reproduce your results.
Example:
Navigating in Rox.
Changing to different directories.
Slow means that a picture does not appear immediatly, but by a scrolling. pixels coming slow , very slow.
What picture?
Doing what?
Etc.....
Re: Don't change what i said, please.
Posted: Mon 16 Oct 2017, 04:14
by Robert123
hamoudoudou wrote:Don't change what i said, please.. I said the last version is slow. Slow means that a picture does not appear immediatly, but by a scrolling. pixels coming slow , very slow. as audio was on You Tube..
The question is why ? belham answer is that is not true.. ???
I suppose the kernel is the reason. (Suppose)
My feedback can be ignored. That is for you. I am back to the first version, without the icon for U-light, and this odd JWM some of you don't like.
I was just testing Zesty.. XenialDog will remain active still not a Puppy able to do as easy.
Ubuntu as seasonal names (6months ) between LTS versions.. Zesty, unicorm, vivid... Sometimes a season has no change, or changes about unity, not used by Puppy.
My interest in Zesty was coming back to FFMpeg..
There are 50MB useless (for 3D) None app runs with 3D excepted Bino.(50MB = 18MB less in the ISO)
hamoudoudou are you Pelo? Because you post just like him.
Re: Cpu Frequency Scaling tool not working
Posted: Mon 16 Oct 2017, 11:29
by josepinto
Marv wrote:josepinto wrote:Hi,
- unable to change to on demand
-unable to set scaling using either 0.8x or 1.2.
Thanks,
The intel pstate is enabled in this kernel. If you have intel hardware it takes precedence over acpi_cpufreq and won't let you set a governor using the acpi_cpufreq driver. You can pass
as a kernel parameter and reboot. That disables the intel driver and then you can set governors normally. I'm guessing you have an intel cpu, right?
Hi Marv,
Yes, Core I5.
In terms of performance, wich is best, to mantain the intel driver or to disable it?
slowness of zesty 17.10.11.
Posted: Mon 16 Oct 2017, 12:56
by hamoudoudou
Bigpup, as audio garbled or not working with Firefox or Light, i will wait for more users to feed back slowness of zesty 17.10.11. (Speed was ok on first version Kernel 4.9.50)
I have re-installed first version, until new events posted here, about this matter.
pet (37k) has been enough to get videos you tube play as they should.° with Light, the browse provided in Zesty)
Mini lib, maximum bug..
Puppylinux-jp blogspot
Re: Cpu Frequency Scaling tool not working
Posted: Mon 16 Oct 2017, 14:38
by Marv
josepinto wrote:Marv wrote:josepinto wrote:Hi,
- unable to change to on demand
-unable to set scaling using either 0.8x or 1.2.
Thanks,
The intel pstate is enabled in this kernel. If you have intel hardware it takes precedence over acpi_cpufreq and won't let you set a governor using the acpi_cpufreq driver. You can pass
as a kernel parameter and reboot. That disables the intel driver and then you can set governors normally. I'm guessing you have an intel cpu, right?
Hi Marv,
Yes, Core I5.
In terms of performance, wich is best, to mantain the intel driver or to disable it?
The i5s 25xx (2nd gen) are right on the cusp. Anything older, clearly disable it and use the acpi_cpufreq. Newer, the intel_pstate seems to do an ok job, especially with the newest 4.13.x kernels. I have looked at benchmarks (Phoronix has a pretty good set) and watched the CPU freqs while tasking and personally prefer disabling it and using the acpi_cpufreq schedutil governor if available or the conservative one otherwise on all my machines. Both are much more gradual in their speed control than ondemand which is pretty much a full slow or full fast switch with load.
+@peebee I had a wcpufreq with an advisory message on this issue included in it out for testing
here. Got some downloads but no feedback so I haven't done anything on it. It might forestall some questions in the long run.
Posted: Mon 16 Oct 2017, 15:04
by peebee
17.10.14 delta brings:
- PupControl customisation
- some further PTheme tweaks from @zigbert in woof-ce
- couple of additions to menu
- wpa_supplicant update
ZestyPup - Beta build
Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2017, 06:56
by Billtoo
I applied the delta, did a manual frugal install to a 16gb flash drive,
did basic setup and rebooted creating the save file, changed kernels
then rebooted and did more setup.
# inxi -bw
System: Host: puppypc18773 Kernel: 4.9.56-pae i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.7 Distro: ZestyPup 17.10.13
Machine: Device: desktop System: HP product: 260-p029 serial: CNV6240BWP
Mobo: HP model: 81B4 v: 01 serial: PFPSK0BWJ301LW UEFI [Legacy]: AMI v: F.04 date: 05/10/2016
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i3-6100T (-HT-MCP-) speed/max: 800/3101 MHz
Graphics: Card: Intel HD Graphics 530
Display Server: X.org 1.19.3 driver: intel tty size: 121x22 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller driver: r8169
Card-2: Realtek RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter driver: rtl8723be
Drives: HDD Total Size: 1031.7GB (0.3% used)
Weather: Conditions: 30 F (-1 C) - Partly Cloudy Time: October 17, 2:43 AM EDT
Info: Processes: 197 Uptime: 1:34 Memory: 212.9/3898.0MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8
#
No problems to report so far.
Thanks.
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EDIT: I installed arandr from PPM and connected a second monitor.
Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2017, 09:45
by belham2
Delta 17.10.13 applied, all is good here as my orange-themed
ZestyRadky-killer-pumpkin-descending-planet comes along
P.S. oooh, peebee, new desktop trash icon...gracias
Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2017, 10:32
by belham2
....and all is working equally good on my ZestypupXFCE with the 17.10.13 delta applied. Zesty is da bee's knees, Peebee!
Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2017, 18:29
by belham2
peebee wrote:17.10.14 delta brings:
- PupControl customisation
- some further PTheme tweaks from @zigbert in woof-ce
- couple of additions to menu
- wpa_supplicant update
Thanks, Peebee. Delta 17.10.14 applied and looks good so far. Relief that Zesty and the DDogs are now patched concerning the wpa-Supplicant issue.
I'm a sprinting to keep up with ya, baby! But it sure is appreciated how you stay on top of your releases
no feed back about zesty in japanese forum
Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2017, 19:15
by hamoudoudou
no feed back about zesty in japanese forum. Japanese Downloaders at the top, US better..
What about 50MB libs for 3D, useles in my opinion.. (not only mine, question was already studied with ASRI EDU)
Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2017, 19:39
by peebee
hamoudoudou wrote:What about 50MB libs for 3D, useles in my opinion..
Please provide a list....
Have you tried deleting these libs? Does the system still work correctly?
Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2017, 20:06
by 666philb
hi peebee,
been testing 17.10.14.....
discovered a pmusic issue see here
http://murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic. ... 224#971224
pctorrent is set as the default torrent app rather than transmission-gtk
there's no option to turn compton off once started from the menu.
the 'menu manager' in 'desktop settings' has an errant stray battery icon appearing in the background.
pplog is missing a couple of perl modules attached below.
looking good!
ZestyPup - Beta build
Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2017, 20:13
by Billtoo
Applied the delta and did a manual frugal install to the hard drive of
Acer laptop:
# inxi -bw
System: Host: puppypc26983 Kernel: 4.9.56-pae i686 (32 bit) Desktop: JWM 2.3.7 Distro: ZestyPup 17.10.14
Machine: Device: laptop System: Acer product: Aspire 7740 v: Rev serial: LXPNX02012004098672000
Mobo: Acer model: Aspire 7740 v: Rev serial: LXPNX02012004098672000
BIOS: Phoenix v: V1.15 date: 12/25/2009
Battery BAT0: charge: 44.0 Wh 100.0% condition: 44.0/44.0 Wh (100%)
CPU: Dual core Intel Core i5 M 430 (-HT-MCP-) speed/max: 1199/2267 MHz
Graphics: Card: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Park [Mobility Radeon HD 5430/5450/5470]
Display Server: X.org 1.19.3 driver: radeon tty size: 131x23 Advanced Data: N/A for root
Network: Card-1: Broadcom Limited NetLink BCM57780 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe driver: tg3
Card-2: Qualcomm Atheros AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) driver: ath9k
Drives: HDD Total Size: 500.1GB (8.1% used)
Weather: Conditions: 61 F (16 C) - Scattered Clouds Time: October 17, 4:00 PM EDT
Info: Processes: 180 Uptime: 1:03 Memory: 207.1/3901.9MB Client: Shell (bash) inxi: 2.3.8
#
It's working well,
Thanks for the update.
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Edit: I saved a conky command line as a script,made it executable and put it in /root/startup.
Seems to be working okay.
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EDIT2: I edited the conky.rc file and put the conky.exe file in /root/startup - it shows wireless stats now.
Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2017, 20:18
by zigbert
Tried a full scale test today of a fresh 17.10.14.
- printer
- scanner
- cellphone (pupcamera)
- installed Gimp/inkscape
- Running Ocad via Wine
- Streaming tv
No major issues so far.
Zesty does everything I do in my long-used Slacko system.
Great stuff!
The only minor thing I found is that the default filetype in Xsane (pnm) has no run-action in Rox.
Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2017, 20:21
by bigpup
ZestryPup 17.10.14
Fresh frugal install
First bootup
Initial setup window click on I need help.
Help Surfer opens, but noting on it.
See images.
libLLVM is simply te bigger lib of Puppy..
Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2017, 20:37
by hamoudoudou
libLLVM is simply the biggest lib of Puppy.. Yes i deleted it. No impact but i don't use nvidia drivers. I don't have any 3D to test.
Mistfire has yet studied everything to make slim his X-Xlacko
It's an information.. If these lib well useless, they have no bad impact .
====> System Processes (top) <====
Mem: 1563644K used, 2473492K free, 356244K shrd, 286916K buff, 985236K cached
CPU: 0% usr 2% sys 0% nic 97% idle 0% io 0% irq 0% sirq
Load average: 0.13 0.29 0.27 1/230 28763
PID PPID USER STAT VSZ %VSZ CPU %CPU COMMAND
28762 28761 root R 4564 0% 3 2% top -b -n1
9281 7603 root S 537m 13% 0 0% light
Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2017, 20:41
by zigbert
A look at the 666philb's music issue...
I think ffmpeg is to blame
- ffconvert did not like the track either.
- It plays well in Slacko 7 (ffmpeg 2.6.1)
There are also trouble with several podcast channel giving similar output. Eg BBC (pMusic default podcast channel)
woof-installed-packages shows these dependencies for ffmpeg:
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+sdl,+x264,+speex,+libogg,+libvorbis,+faac,+libvpx,+schroedinger,+libtheora,+lame
Is flac support builtin, or is it depending on a lib?
No errors to terminal
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ffmpeg -i "/root/Downloads/04. My Great-Grandmother Lived In The Mountains.flac" -ss 0 -af "volume=2.8dB" -f au - | aplay
ffmpeg version 3.3.2 Copyright (c) 2000-2017 the FFmpeg developers
built with gcc 7.1.0 (GCC)
configuration: --prefix=/usr --libdir=/usr/lib --enable-libmp3lame --enable-libx264 --enable-pthreads --enable-small --enable-postproc --enable-libvorbis --enable-gpl --enable-shared --enable-nonfree --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-libopencore-amrwb --disable-debug --enable-bzlib --enable-zlib --enable-libspeex --enable-version3 --enable-runtime-cpudetect --enable-libxcb --enable-libschroedinger --enable-libtheora --enable-libxvid --enable-swscale --enable-libvpx
libavutil 55. 58.100 / 55. 58.100
libavcodec 57. 89.100 / 57. 89.100
libavformat 57. 71.100 / 57. 71.100
libavdevice 57. 6.100 / 57. 6.100
libavfilter 6. 82.100 / 6. 82.100
libswscale 4. 6.100 / 4. 6.100
libswresample 2. 7.100 / 2. 7.100
libpostproc 54. 5.100 / 54. 5.100
Input #0, flac, from '/root/Downloads/04. My Great-Grandmother Lived In The Mountains.flac':
Metadata:
TITLE : My Great-Grandmother Lived In The Mountains
ALBUM : Aeolian Processes
album_artist : Lorenzo Masotto
ARTIST : Lorenzo Masotto
TRACKTOTAL : 11
DATE : 2017
track : 4
Duration: 00:03:58.00, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 546 kb/s
Stream #0:0: Audio: flac, 44100 Hz, stereo, s16
Stream mapping:
Stream #0:0 -> #0:0 (flac (native) -> pcm_s16be (native))
Press [q] to stop, [?] for help
Output #0, au, to 'pipe:':
Metadata:
TITLE : My Great-Grandmother Lived In The Mountains
ALBUM : Aeolian Processes
album_artist : Lorenzo Masotto
ARTIST : Lorenzo Masotto
TRACKTOTAL : 11
DATE : 2017
track : 4
encoder : Lavf57.71.100
Stream #0:0: Audio: pcm_s16be ([3][0][0][0] / 0x0003), 44100 Hz, stereo, s16, 1411 kb/s
Metadata:
encoder : Lavc57.89.100 pcm_s16be
Playing raw data 'stdin' : Unsigned 8 bit, Rate 8000 Hz, Mono
humongous 54MB
Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2017, 20:59
by hamoudoudou
"
The slackware-current llvm package is a humongous 54MB so I really don't want to have to include it if at all possible in a 250MB iso.....it's absence doesn't seem to be causing many problems except 01micko reported" PeeBee said
It's the same for Zesty, PeeBee.
(50MB only). Treesize makes that evident. I often find MBs for Firefox, Abiword left here when devs want to make lighter Puppies.. in fact they let the bigger part of apps included.
Posted: Tue 17 Oct 2017, 21:04
by bigpup
ZestyPup 17.10.14
Fresh frugal install
Save folder.
Wonder why Billtoo's post of the Htop does not show this?
Seeing a lot of CPU usage from two processes.
syslogd
klogd
Do not remember seeing this in other versions of ZestyPup.
Have only done basic setup and changed some desktop settings.
Htop shows this: