Puppy 4.2 Final

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trio · #161 Post by **trio** » Tue 31 Mar 2009, 03:35

edoc wrote:Please remind me - how does Distrowatch generate their ratings?

I think they do it by counting HITS per day

edoc · #162 Post by **edoc** » Tue 31 Mar 2009, 03:42

CUPS looks OK so far ... handles the laser printer but that may be because it relies on the host PC with Puppy 4.12 & CUPS. Will have to do a little more testing.

Just tried to load my HP OJ-4215 - CUPS skips the whole 4xxx-series of HP printers in their default driver set - will have to chase down the latest hpijs file and load it - I tried the generic HP CUPS & Gutenprint driver but no joy there ... too late for this now, perhaps tomorrow ...

edoc · #163 Post by **edoc** » Tue 31 Mar 2009, 03:42

trio wrote:
edoc wrote:Please remind me - how does Distrowatch generate their ratings?
I think they do it by counting HITS per day

I get that but HITS where?

#164 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Tue 31 Mar 2009, 03:48

edoc wrote:
trio wrote:
edoc wrote:Please remind me - how does Distrowatch generate their ratings?
I think they do it by counting HITS per day
I get that but HITS where?

It goes by I.P address visiting the distros page. Usually defaulted to an average of 6 months, which since this release we moved from our long standing 9th place up to 8th place, but on the 7 day average we are #2, like I said if we made all the release notes and download links at distrowatch only, then we would be #1 because everyone would have to there to find the links and info

ttuuxxx

edoc · #165 Post by **edoc** » Tue 31 Mar 2009, 03:59

Is that latter suggestion how Ubuntu puffed its numbers early on?

If I do decide to load 4.2 on everything then it would be more effective if I went to Distrowatch and did a new Puppy download for each PC starting there?

Any comparison thread or wiki or Web page or Blog that contrasts 4.2-Final and WOOF!/dPup?

_MegadetH_ · #166 Post by **_MegadetH_** » Tue 31 Mar 2009, 16:45

I am very happy for new Puppy

I'm very curious to test it. I'm downloading...but which version is better for my computer, standard or kernel? are there big differences? my computer is a pentium III 650Mhz 320Mb Ram

01micko · #167 Post by **01micko** » Tue 31 Mar 2009, 19:31

_MegadetH_ wrote:I am very happy for new Puppy I'm very curious to test it. I'm downloading...but which version is better for my computer, standard or kernel? are there big differences? my computer is a pentium III 650Mhz 320Mb Ram

Probably retro is better for you _MegadetH_ however I use the normal version on an AMD k6 400MHz 256ram and it performs quite well.

(...\m/ ... hehe)

Mick

edoc · #168 Post by **edoc** » Wed 01 Apr 2009, 00:19

Thoughts about OpenOffice & 4.2-Final, please?

davids45 · #169 Post by **davids45** » Wed 01 Apr 2009, 01:00

G'day,

Been briefly using the OO3 pet with 4.2 as a frugal (OO3 pet converted to an sfs so OO is not installed as such) and in a full 4.2 install.
No problems found so far when using the basic calc and writer - don't use the other bits of OO.

Still the problem with the full install of the OO3 pet in that it wipes the Puppypin file so that on restart there's just its own OO shortcuts on a blank wallpaper - I'm learning to back-up PuppyPin before installing this pet and then use the backup to replace the faulty OO pin file and restart. I also back-up the globicons file before installing the OO3 pet, just in case.

I'm still bemused that the OO3 pet is 50% bigger than the Puppy OS - the tail wagging the dog?

David S.

edoc · #170 Post by **edoc** » Wed 01 Apr 2009, 01:08

I don't know what you mean when you refer to PuppyPin.

Abiword doesn't handle .RTF files properly and thus makes it impossible to engage in cooperative development of text files with others using MS versions of windows & the associated word processing apps.

I wonder if someone has made a stripped-down version of OO3 with only the word processing app?

The size isn't the major variable for me - simplicity to load and stability of operation is.

I'd rather also that OO3 become the default for any and all purposes previously served by Abiword in 4.2-Final. (No point in jumping between apps and wasting space on a mostly-unused one.)

#171 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 01 Apr 2009, 01:16

edoc wrote:I don't know what you mean when you refer to PuppyPin.

Abiword doesn't handle .RTF files properly and thus makes it impossible to engage in cooperative development of text files with others using MS versions of windows & the associated word processing apps.

I wonder if someone has made a stripped-down version of OO3 with only the word processing app?

The size isn't the major variable for me - simplicity to load and stability of operation is.

I'd rather also that OO3 become the default for any and all purposes previously served by Abiword in 4.2-Final. (No point in jumping between apps and wasting space on a mostly-unused one.)

edoc the issue isn't abiword, I think its the fonts itself, If you high-lite the text and not the images and select DejaVu Sans it will look perfect. Open office is like 2.3 times the size of puppy and thats not much of a help to the average user. lets fix what we have

ttuuxxx

edoc · #172 Post by **edoc** » Wed 01 Apr 2009, 02:58

I will try that - jumped through a bunch of font and other hoops before and never could resolve the weird things Abiword was doing to the documents - installed OO and instantly the problem was solved.

Will let you know what I discover - hopefully tomorrow ...

DaveS · #173 Post by **DaveS** » Wed 01 Apr 2009, 05:24

edoc, if you want to make OO the default word processor instead of Abiword, go to usr/local/bin/ and open the file defaultwordprocessor in a text editor. Change it to Open Office. Mine looks like this:

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#!/bin/sh
exec /opt/openoffice.org2.4/program/swriter  "$@"

daacosta · #174 Post by **daacosta** » Wed 01 Apr 2009, 05:36

I boot puppy from a stick. The latest release is fantastic! I am trying to make wine work on the stick but no icon shows up...

growler · #175 Post by **growler** » Wed 01 Apr 2009, 08:54

dejan555 wrote:Errr, there's httpd instead hiawatha in this release, I don't mind that but where's that directory for html documents, can't find it?

EDIT: OK, found it it's in /usr/htdocs/

I think you just discovered why it didn't work in the alphas/betas and RCs - there were two copies of hiawatha and the web-root was /usr/htdocs/ not /root/httpd/hiawatha/ as I was thinking ... I think!

pa_mcclamrock · #176 Post by **pa_mcclamrock** » Wed 01 Apr 2009, 09:17

edoc wrote:I don't know what you mean when you refer to PuppyPin.

/root/Choices/ROX-Filer/PuppyPin is an XML file that specifies the positions of desktop icons.

WhoDo · #177 Post by **WhoDo** » Wed 01 Apr 2009, 11:32

edoc wrote:The size isn't the major variable for me - simplicity to load and stability of operation is.

Sounds like you might be a candidate for Koffice sfs package for Puppy. I use that almost exclusively and have no problems with it in the way I work. Doesn't yet support .docx format though.

#178 Post by **ttuuxxx** » Wed 01 Apr 2009, 18:14

WhoDo wrote:
edoc wrote:The size isn't the major variable for me - simplicity to load and stability of operation is.
Sounds like you might be a candidate for Koffice sfs package for Puppy. I use that almost exclusively and have no problems with it in the way I work. Doesn't yet support .docx format though.

Hey WhoDo if you make a update, remove the newer abiword and install Barrys last version, plus plugins and his last enchant, and abiword will work again, actually Installed his latest and then it requested the enchant, I installed that, then I uninstalled both packages and the newer one was opening .doc and rtf ok, strange but true. I think puppy just has a issue with the latest, well It won't compile the latest version also, just the one we have now, was the last version it would compile.
ttuuxxx

_MegadetH_ · #179 Post by **_MegadetH_** » Wed 01 Apr 2009, 22:27

01micko wrote:
_MegadetH_ wrote:I am very happy for new Puppy I'm very curious to test it. I'm downloading...but which version is better for my computer, standard or kernel? are there big differences? my computer is a pentium III 650Mhz 320Mb Ram
Probably retro is better for you _MegadetH_ however I use the normal version on an AMD k6 400MHz 256ram and it performs quite well.

(...\m/ ... hehe)

Mick

Hi Mick \m/

I tried first the standard version it performs quite well for me too...I want to try if retro version works better than standard for me..
Sorry in previous post I wrote kernel instead of retro. lol

rheya · #180 Post by **rheya** » Fri 03 Apr 2009, 16:17

my printer doesn't work on puppy 42

I just succeeded in make it working in puppy 412 , but upgrading wasn't good for me , so I came back to puppy 412 ...
I updated not because I wasn't happy with puppy 412, but I hoped my scanner too will work in the upgrading

Maybe puppy 42 needs some more focus....
ciao
rheya

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