Fatdog64 700 alpha1

[Bindee]

hanging private browsing with flash - is this "fatdog-only" problem or does it happen in other puppies/linuxes too? Anyway using flash + private browsing is a bit of an oxymoron because flash keeps your browsing history, whether or not you use private browsing ...

Right, so I tested it without private browsing. It still happens, in a slightly different way. Seamonkey becomes more and more sluggish as new tabs get added until it crawls to a halt and I need to kill the process. Try by yourself on this forum page. Enable the flash plugin, then open a tab on the forum. Then middle click the "Forum Index" link to open a background tab on the forum. Keep repeating the last step... When I get to about 8 tabs my seamonkey goes to lala land. All along if you switch tabs you should see the small add banner in the upper right corner playing the same flash movie. As tabs get added the movie slows down more and more.

google seamonkey session store interval

Flashplayer in mutlple tabs slowing down is common to all browsers regardless of OS as it all depends on how often the browser is trying to save the tab information so it can restart on crash.

Slowing down the session store interval or disabling it means you can open more flash tabs but you would lose any data and any browser work done if you crash as it's no longer trying to save the tab information at regular intervals.

Though i'm no expert on this as it's a fix i've seen others use for slugish youtube playback at 1080p or flashplayer causing 99% cpu load but your problem may be different.

[jamesbond]

Any personal opinions on Bleachbit for removing persistent cookies and logs before a remaster or didn't you have time to use the program ?

I did run it to check that at least it launches But no, I haven't used it fully. It sounds like good idea though, knowing that many obscure programs like to hide their data in unorthodox locations ...

[PaulR]

Alpha seems to work pretty well for me, just two things I noticed straight away... GIMP has two entries in the Graphic section of the menu and if I open a terminal and hit backspace when the command line is empty the window flashes - happens with xterm and urxvt.

The brightness control on my laptop (HP Pavilion 15) works out of the box but the volume control doesn't. Wireless is fine so far, doesn't keep dropping like most Ubuntu derived distros seem to do at present on this machine.

IMHO the default wallpaper doesn't do this excellent work any favours though

Paul

EDIT: Also a typo....should read 'clicked' I think

[jamesbond]

Alpha seems to work pretty well for me, just two things I noticed straight away... GIMP has two entries in the Graphic section of the menu

. Noted thanks.

and if I open a terminal and hit backspace when the command line is empty the window flashes - happens with xterm and urxvt.

This is a feature, called "visual bell" - so instead of a beep you get flashes. "xterm" in the basesfs is actually a wrapper script for urxvt; if you need the real xterm install it from repo.

The brightness control on my laptop (HP Pavilion 15) works out of the box

This is HP ACPI hardware doing it, not Fatdog

but the volume control doesn't.

Will need you to pass the content of /proc/asound/cards.

Wireless is fine so far, doesn't keep dropping like most Ubuntu derived distros seem to do at present on this machine.

Good ! What's the wireless, is that broadcom?

IMHO the default wallpaper doesn't do this excellent work any favours though

That goes to show our graphics ability (or lack thereof) Please do contribute better ones.

EDIT: Also a typo....should read 'clicked' I think

Yes, will fix that.

[Billtoo]

I did a new install to the hd on my hp desktop which has 2 monitors
connected to it.
Zarfy gives an error:
# zarfy
More crtcs than 4
#
So I downloaded arandr-0.1.7.1.tar.gz and put the 2monitors.sh that
was created in /root/startup
That is working fine now.

EDIT: I added xfce4-4.10, it's working better this time but still no easy way to reboot.

[step]

google seamonkey session store interval

Flashplayer in mutlple tabs slowing down is common to all browsers regardless of OS as it all depends on how often the browser is trying to save the tab information so it can restart on crash.

Slowing down the session store interval or disabling it means you can open more flash tabs but you would lose any data and any browser work done if you crash as it's no longer trying to save the tab information at regular intervals.

Though i'm no expert on this as it's a fix i've seen others use for slugish youtube playback at 1080p or flashplayer causing 99% cpu load but your problem may be different.

Thanks for the pointer. It didn't help. I set the interval to 300 seconds and opened the infamous 8 tabs. Seamonkey slowed down to a crawl as before. Then it finally released itself and displayed error message "The Adobe Flash plugin has crashed..." in each new tab. That's something new.

[Billtoo]

I'm using Firefox 31.0 in Fatdog64 700a1.
I have the noscript addon installed in firefox and with 9 tabs open the
cpu usage is 10% while playing a video at youtube.ca

[step]

I'm using Firefox 31.0 in Fatdog64 700a1.
I have the noscript addon installed in firefox and with 9 tabs open the
cpu usage is 10% while playing a video at youtube.ca

Do you have 9 tabs open - each tab playing some sort of flash movie - or just one tab playing flash on youtube and 8 tabs without flash? The issue I'm seeing is the former.

[Billtoo]

Do you have 9 tabs open - each tab playing some sort of flash movie - or just one tab playing flash on youtube and 8 tabs without flash? The issue I'm seeing is the former.

I just had the video at youtube playing, I just tried a video a youtube + a video at cnn.com playing at the same time, cpu usage went to 16% but the audio for both was playing.

[step]

Do you have 9 tabs open - each tab playing some sort of flash movie - or just one tab playing flash on youtube and 8 tabs without flash? The issue I'm seeing is the former.

I just had the video at youtube playing, I just tried a video a youtube + a video at cnn.com playing at the same time, cpu usage went to 16% but the audio for both was playing.

Right. Actually, there is no need to play youtube videos. Could you please try the test I explained here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 057#797057 Once you get past 8 tabs, try switching tabs. Does ffox switch tab right away or does ffox seem frozen?

[Billtoo]

Do you have 9 tabs open - each tab playing some sort of flash movie - or just one tab playing flash on youtube and 8 tabs without flash? The issue I'm seeing is the former.

I just had the video at youtube playing, I just tried a video a youtube + a video at cnn.com playing at the same time, cpu usage went to 16% but the audio for both was playing.

Right. Actually, there is no need to play youtube videos. Could you please try the test I explained here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 057#797057 Once you get past 8 tabs, try switching tabs. Does ffox switch tab right away or does ffox seem frozen?

I added the noscript addon to Seamonkey and have 10 tabs open, cpu
usage is 3or4%.
I can turn flash on or off in each tab, (default is off) by clicking on
Options in the lower right corner of the screen.

That's all I know

[step]

OK Billtoo, I will try noscript then. Thanks.

[Bindee]

Have you changed the flashplayer settings at all such as restricting the amount of data flashplayer can store and use ?

[Billtoo]

Have you changed the flashplayer settings at all such as restricting the amount of data flashplayer can store and use ?

No, I didn't make any changes.

[Bindee]

Sorry , the comment was for step , i should have said his name.

[step]

@jamesbond, pet2txz refused to convert a valid pet

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# pet2txz exiftool-fd64-9.32.pet 
You must be root
root you are then..
 is not a pet or is not compatible, exiting
#

It turns out that grep is looking for 'xz compressed data' but not for 'XZ compressed data', so I changed line 52 to
(-E becomes -iE)

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file "$PACKAGE"|grep -q -iE "gzip compressed data|xz compressed data" #should handle FatDog packages

You may also want to change $1 to $PACKAGE in line 53, since the above error message didn't list the package name as intended.
(unchanged below)

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[ "$?" -ne 0 ] && echo "$1 is not a pet or is not compatible, exiting" && exit

[step]

Have you changed the flashplayer settings at all such as restricting the amount of data flashplayer can store and use ?

No, I haven't. How would I do that?

[Bindee]

http://www.macromedia.com/support/docum ... ger03.html

Not sure for 700 Alpha as i've yet to try it but you can change the settings online via your browser at the above link.

I would increase the storage space that flash can use so the tabs are not fighting for restricted space.

[step]

Here's for grabs exiftool packaged for FD64 700. Exiftool needs perl, which comes with the devx sfs.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/240k5nsepqhyn ... T.txz?dl=0

[step]

Usually I disable wireless through the hardware switch in my laptop. Wireless goes off, LED goes off, and everything else keeps working. This time I tried disabling it from the wpa_gui user interface by selecting "Quit wireless" in the right-click menu. The LED went off as expected, but also the wired interface got disabled unexpectedly and inconveniently. To turn eth0 back on I tried in turn, from the wpa_gui applet, Network Wizard>Activate Settings now>eth0, Restart Connection, Reconnect - none of which made any difference.

So I started troubleshooting. ifconfig in a terminal displays just interface lo. ifconfig -a shows eth0, wlan0 and lo, with eth0 IP still configured from the dhcp server. ifconfig eth0 brings back eth0 into ifconfig. ping www.cisco.com complains that network is unreachable.

... Finally it dawned on me to use the Network Wizard to first Configure IP address>eth0>Autoconfigure via dhcp then Activate Settings now, and eth0 became functional again.