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Thanks for the flashplayer11-11.2.202.285 version (more recent than what is in the Carolina repo). But unfortunately it does not solve the issue.

At the TED page
http://www.ted.com/talks%20ji_hae_park_ ... _soul.html
I get the error message that "Shockwave flash has crashed". And at the download page which you posted nothing happens.
...but at the youtube page for the same TED video everything works:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMGZQZRIsJE

Thanks for the flashplayer11-11.2.202.285 version (more recent than what is in the Carolina repo). But unfortunately it does not solve the issue.

At the TED page
http://www.ted.com/talks%20ji_hae_park_ ... _soul.html

I get the error message that "Shockwave flash has crashed". And at the download page which you posted nothing happens.
...but at the youtube page for the same TED video everything works:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMGZQZRIsJE

Thanks for the flashplayer11-11.2.202.285 version (more recent than what is in the Carolina repo). But unfortunately it does not solve the issue.

At the TED page
http://www.ted.com/talks ji_hae_park_the_violin_and_my_dark_night_of_the_soul.html

I get the error message that "Shockwave flash has crashed". And at the download page which you posted nothing happens.
...but at the youtube page for the same TED video everything works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMGZQZRIsJE

Then try v10. As for the link I left, it's for wget, not your browser.

This is a sad day for long-standing supporters of Opera browser. I have tested an early version of the new Opera based on Chromium. It is vastly inferior to the classic Opera and I will not be supporting it. It lacks the features and customisation we loved about Opera.

In the future I intend to use Firefox as my main browser on operating systems that support it. Classic Opera 12.15 is still the best available choice for Racy and Wary and I will continue to make the SFS available for download as long as there is a demand for it.

Terryphi wrote:This is a sad day for long-standing supporters of Opera browser. I have tested an early version of the new Opera based on Chromium. It is vastly inferior to the classic Opera and I will not be supporting it. It lacks the features and customisation we loved about Opera.

In the future I intend to use Firefox as my main browser on operating systems that support it. Classic Opera 12.15 is still the best available choice for Racy and Wary and I will continue to make the SFS available for download as long as there is a demand for it.

Thank you, Terry.
I have just downloaded your Opera 12.15, and am using it now.

What would Firefox do for me that Opera cannot?
My usual OS is Lucid Puppy 5.28-005.

Thanks again,

Sheldon

sheldonisaac wrote: What would Firefox do for me that Opera cannot?
My usual OS is Lucid Puppy 5.28-005.

Sheldon,

If you are happy with Opera you can go on using it but there will be no updates to classic Opera. Consequently, over a period of time as web design standards develop it may not work properly on some sites. At that time you may want to move on to a different browser.

I don't want to get involved in discussing the relative merits of Opera and Firefox but here are some of my thoughts. Firefox does work on more sites than Opera. I think Opera's bookmarks and cookie management are better than in Firefox. Opera allows more customisation of the browser. Some people like Opera's built-in mail client and feedreader. These are all personal preferences.

Perhaps the most relevant point is that many of the best features of early Opera were copied by Firefox developers. Therefore, Firefox is the next best thing for anyone seeking a longterm alternative to classic Opera.

Terryphi wrote:

sheldonisaac wrote: What would Firefox do for me that Opera cannot?
My usual OS is Lucid Puppy 5.28-005.

Sheldon,

If you are happy with Opera you can go on using it but there will be no updates to classic Opera. Consequently, over a period of time as web design standards develop it may not work properly on some sites. At that time you may want to move on to a different browser.

I don't want to get involved in discussing the relative merits of Opera and Firefox but here are some of my thoughts. Firefox does work on more sites than Opera. I think Opera's bookmarks and cookie management are better than in Firefox. Opera allows more customisation of the browser. Some people like Opera's built-in mail client and feedreader. These are all personal preferences.

Perhaps the most relevant point is that many of the best features of early Opera were copied by Firefox developers. Therefore, Firefox is the next best thing for anyone seeking a longterm alternative to classic Opera.

Have you seen this yet?

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/op ... 0-released

and this as well

http://my.opera.com/desktopteam/blog/op ... ease-cycle

Sounds pretty promising! Hopefully we will get some nice releases of this in time for our puppies

I have updated the Opera SFS to version 12.16 (build 1860). This release includes security fixes.

Full details are in the first post in this thread.

Newest version of Opera 12 is 12.17, which has been out for a while. Any chance of an updated SFS and Pet?

Jades wrote:Newest version of Opera 12 is 12.17, which has been out for a while. Any chance of an updated SFS and Pet?

No. Opera 12.17 is a fix for Windows only.



In light of the recently reported OpenSSL vulnerability, Heartbleed, Opera has released an update to its latest Opera Presto version 12.16.

Sigbjørn Vik an Opera Developer discusses why the update was necessary:

"Even though Presto does not use any vulnerable parts of OpenSSL, the standalone autoupdater for Opera 12 on Windows does. However, the autoupdater will only connect to our server, and close the connection if the certificate does not validate, so the certificate holders are the only ones who can abuse it. If someone should have stolen our certificate with a heartbleed attack against our servers, they might potentially use it against the autoupdater. The autoupdater runs in a separate process, and doesn’t have much memory to leak, but might potentially leak system information in such a case, such as local username on Windows machines."

Opera 12 for Windows will update itself automatically. Mac and Linux are not affected, and will not receive a 12.17 update.

Jades wrote:Newest version of Opera 12 is 12.17, which has been out for a while. Any chance of an updated SFS and Pet?

But it appears that 12.17 is for Windows only...
http://blogs.opera.com/desktop/2014/04/opera-12-17/

Opera 12 for Windows will update itself automatically. Mac and Linux are not affected, and will not receive a 12.17 update.

Hi Terry. I've been using this .sfs in Precise 5.7.1. for a while and never had any problem with it. But... A minor error occurs when downloading .pet files. It seems like Opera cannot handle this file types correctly. At least not when downloading from smokey01.com where few of our devs lay their .pets.
In that case download dialog offers .gz instead of a .pet package.
I'm aware of 'fake .gz' (common on this forum but usually emphasized
as such) but I'm a bit confused because when I click the same link in Seamonkey everything's fine. I tried to set new MIME string with pet extension, even added handler for saving pet files but there's no difference. Just wondering if you could shed some light on this.Thanx for the squash!

Hi Griot. Yes, this has always been a problem with Opera. I gave up trying to find a solution. Maybe Opera deliberately analyzes content as a security feature and identifies .pet as .gz file content.

I never thought it was a major problem because it is so easy to change the file extension when the download dialog appears. Alternatively the file extension can be changed after download.

Thanx Terry. Agreed, no major problem. Just well-minded observation from a long time user. Cheers!

IMPORTANT SECURITY NOTICE

Anyone using my Opera 12.16 SFS need to be aware of a security issue.

Opera 12.16 has SSL 3 enabled by default but this is now considered an insecure protocol and should be disabled. In Opera go to Tools>Preferences>Advanced>Security>Security Protocols and disable SSL 3. Then enable TLS 1 and save settings.

Hello Terry, and everyone else who has been and is working with you on this excellent and seemingly perpetual browser. I picked it up early, back in the nineties, and have used it ever since. I didn't stop using it when it became free.

Having said that, I am writing to comment on a couple of things, including a problem which may or may not be a problem in the browser, First the easy one..
The type in the bookmarks fiels is really tiny. I keep whipping out the magnifying glass. I've changed the screen resolution from 2048 to 1024 wide. This helps but not nearly enough.

That's usable, but the serious problem (for me) is that I can't get webmail to work. This should be simple, and I used it for years in older Operas. What am I missing? Webmail is used more than ever. Hopefully you can just tell me what I'm doing wrong. I have a very clean installation, following the advice on your comment sheet. Older Operas from a few years ago included the URL and the passwords of the several participants in the bookmarks. I see no such names in the current bookmarks. I would expect them to be included at first use. How is webmail (i.e. SquirrelMail) handled? Otherwise a very agile browser.

-EDIT_ Apologies for my mistake! I found the error. Related to the small type and my failing vision. The Squirrelmail address starts out "shared1/ . . . I had left out the trailing slash, but didn't notice despite looking many times. I am sorry. Looks like your Opera is fine in that respect.WebMail works! It had nothing to do with the bookmarks.

Thanks!.

Henry

Funny: In a much older version 11.64 SSL 3 is disabled by default.