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Posted: Tue 06 Aug 2013, 19:57
by OscarTalks
Sylvander,

I'm afraid there's not much more that springs to mind beyond the points I have already made, except to note that it seems from what you have said that you are now sometimes experiencing the problem even without having those 4 packages installed, which suggests that maybe it was a red herring that cdrtools-3 was the cause. As I said, difficult to troubleshoot with several unknowns in the equation.

What happens if you run the dependency checker in Slacko 5.3.3.1 ?

Are you sure that all those packages you have installed are suitable for Precise?

mounting Samba shares

Posted: Tue 06 Aug 2013, 21:56
by shinobar
ahoppin wrote:Precise 5.7.1's Pnethood won't connect to Windows or Samba shares.
pnethood-0.7.1
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=87800

network_roxapp-0.8
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=81808

Posted: Wed 07 Aug 2013, 06:59
by bigpup
Anyone having these problems with Burniso2 CD?

Burniso2CD program:

Burn speed setting seems to have no affect on burn speed. No matter what setting, it burns at top speed of CD disk.

Multi-session burn option does not work. It still burns a closed disk.

5.7.1 retropuppyprecise not work.

Posted: Wed 07 Aug 2013, 08:30
by adrianespaña
5.7.1 retropuppyprecise not work.
kernel panic
No problems 5.7
travlmate 800 1.3 gb ram
the same problem that is already posted

Posted: Wed 07 Aug 2013, 08:31
by Sylvander
OscarTalks,

1. "maybe it was a red herring that cdrtools-3 was the cause"
I too had that thought...
Time will tell...
All seems to be working OK right now, with none of the 4 PET's installed, and functionality restored.
Certainly seems as though something involved in installing the 4 files started off this problem...
And with only the 3 PET files installed there was no problem.
Problem only appeared when cdrtools-3 PET was installed.
And after doing so, the problem seems to tend to persist even after uninstalling it.

2. "What happens if you run the dependency checker in Slacko 5.3.3.1 ?"
It seems to function just fine...
Different programs give different reports.
Sometimes nothing missing, sometimes there is something missing.
Haven't ever seen it report exactly the same things missing for more than 1 package.

3. "Are you sure that all those packages you have installed are suitable for Precise?"
No, not sure.
I do my best, but I'm no expert.
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4. More strangeness:
a. Just now booted into Precise-5.7.1 after I'd shutdown less than 1 hour back.
Tried to use smm, and it failed to connect...
So...

b. Rebooted back into Precise-5.7.1, and tried smm again, and it connected just fine.
So...

c. I figured perhaps [in "a" above] I'd tried to use smm too soon after reaching the desktop.
Perhaps a connection to the web had not yet been established at the moment I tried to connect smm to the POP3 server.
So...

d. I rebooted again, and connected ASAP...
Say 1 second or so after CPU usage was being displayed by Pwidgets .
But it connected just fine! :?
Beats me! :(

e. I phoned Virgin [my ISP] technical assistance, and told her the story of this, and asked if the POP3 server might be doing something to cause this.
She didn't know.
Only thing she could think of was perhaps a problem with the ports, but she says that shouldn't happen.
Something about the ports being chosen automatically.
Suggested I might try their other POP3 server; I don't fancy messing with something that has been working just fine for years.
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5. Another problem! :(
a. Tried to log into my Amazon account, and couldn't.
Used the details held in my password vault, plus a CAPCHA, but it repeatedly failed [this normally NEVER happens to me].
So...

b. Rebooted into Slacko-5.3.3.1, and it worked 1st time. :?

6. Perhaps I shouldn't have updated the Precise-5.6.1 precisesave to Precise-5.7.1.
Mayhap I should start afresh with the Precise-5.7.1 CD-RW, and make a new precisesave.

Posted: Wed 07 Aug 2013, 10:34
by simes
ahoppin wrote:Precise 5.7.1's Pnethood won't connect to Windows or Samba shares.

Pnethood also doesn't work in Precise 5.6.1.

For every machine I try to connect to - Lucid Puppy 5.25 with Samba, Windows 2000, even Windows 98 - I get the message "Mount: <MACHINE_NAME> <sharename> failed. The server may be refusing you access to this share or your password may be incorrect. Please hit the <sharename> disconnect button to reset the display."

Pnethood fails for EVERY machine on my home net, whether it's running Puppy or Windows.

I tried the console command suggested by simes above. For the C drive on machine PIPKIN I used:

mount -t cifs /192.168.1.155/C -o sec=ntim,username=username,password=password /mnt/network/PIPKIN

It returns "mount error 22 - invalid argument."

Pnethood still works fine in Lucid. How can I get it to work in Precise? I was about to upgrade to Precise, but this problem has put the brakes on the upgrade.

Thanks.
ahoppin,
As well as ntlm (instead of ntim) mentioned above, there should be a double slash (//) ahead of the server IP address. Also, probably obvious to you but just in case, you need to have created the directory /mnt/network/PIPKIN before issuing the mount command.

Posted: Wed 07 Aug 2013, 11:09
by Sage
Perhaps I shouldn't have updated the Precise-5.6.1 precisesave to Precise-5.7.1.
I already reported that 'Upgrade' is unsuccessful. The reason probably lies somewhere in the techno-stuff on BK's Blog?

Posted: Wed 07 Aug 2013, 11:50
by Sylvander
Sage wrote:I already reported that 'Upgrade' is unsuccessful.
Does that mean it's impossible for [any and all] "Upgrade" to succeed?
Or do you mean that it was unsuccessful when you tried it [one example of a lack of success]?

Posted: Wed 07 Aug 2013, 12:01
by Sage
Don't know. But, two reports suggest the former. As you may read, BK has made many changes recently. I don't pretend to understand most (all?!) of them, although the tenor of what he says often/sometimes points in that direction. Read and digest them for yourself and let us know what you can tease out?

Still no pnethood

Posted: Wed 07 Aug 2013, 17:59
by ahoppin
Shinobar, thanks, but regrettably the updated pnethood didn't help. I get exactly the same behavior.

Simes, thanks for the clarification on the mount syntax. I was able to mount shares from the Win2k box and from the Lucid 525 box that way.

The mount command didn't work for the Win98 machine on my net, though. It returned "mount error 112 = Host is down."

YASSM didn't work at all, for any machine. (I didn't realize until now that YASSM is built into Precise).

YASSM identifies the share on the Win98 machine as hidden@PIPKIN on the initial window, but on the login window, the Shares button discovers C (the C drive). It still won't mount the share, though; I get "No connection to C."

YASSM also won't connect to the Win2k box. Same deal as with the Win98 machine - "No connection to C."

Nor will YASSM connect to the Lucid 525 / Samba machine.

So, YASSM is a total bust here.

The old Lucid 525 Pnethood still works fine for finding and mounting shares from everything on my network.

Maybe I'll try the retro version of Precise 5.7.1, which I think has an older kernel. If that doesn't work, I might have to put off the upgrade for a while to see if this problem resolves in a later update.

Thanks again for trying!

EDIT: I tried Retro, with some progress. Pnethood 0.7.i18n in Precise 5.7.1 Retro connects smoothly and quickly to Lucid 525's samba shares, and also to the Win2k shares.

Regrettably, Retro still does NOT connect to the Win98 shares. Same error as above: "Mount: PIPKIN C failed. The server may be refusing you access ... "

Pnethood 0.7.1 installed on Precise 5.7.1 Retro acts exactly the same as Pnethood 0.7.i18n.

YASSM - same results. Works for the Lucid box and the Win2k box, fails to connect to the Win98 machine's shares.

Looks like I'll be staying with Lucid 525 for a while longer.

In all fairness, I've been spoiled a bit by Puppy and the way it "just works." Very seldom do I run into problems like this one.

Re: Still no pnethood

Posted: Wed 07 Aug 2013, 19:17
by rcrsn51
ahoppin wrote:YASSM - same results. Works for the Lucid box and the Win2k box, fails to connect to the Win98 machine's shares.
Did you see the instructions in the YASSM Help for Win98 shares?

Quick test report (desktop pc)

Posted: Thu 08 Aug 2013, 00:13
by FeodorF
Operating System: Precise Puppy 5.7.1
Kernel Version: Linux 3.9.11 (i686)
Date/Time: Thu 08 Aug 2013 01:52:03 AM GMT-1

Processor: Pentium III 850MHz (Coppermine)
Memory: 1293MB (132MB used)
Board: Gigabyte Technology 6VX7-4X / VIA694X / 686A, BIOS AMI 62710 10/03/2000

Display Resolution: 1600x900 pixels
OpenGL: radeon, Mesa DRI R100 (RV100 5159) x86/MMX/SSE NO-TCL DRI2
AGP Card: ATI RV100 QY (Radeon 7000/VE) 64MB

Audio Adapter VIA686A - VIA 82C686A/B rev20

Input Devices: Logitech USB Optical Mouse
Input Devices: LITEON Technology USB Multimedia Keyboard

eth0: RealTek RTL-8139 Fast Ethernet driver

Disks: HL-DT-ST DVD-ROM GDR8161B
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Works fine.

Precise Puppy 5.7.1

Posted: Thu 08 Aug 2013, 00:46
by Billtoo
Manual frugal install to the hard drive of a hp desktop pc.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Wed 7 Aug 2013 on Precise Puppy 5.7.1 Linux 3.9.11 i686
0.0 VGA compatible controller:
Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV530 [Radeon X1600]
oem: ATI ATOMBIOS
product: RV530 01.00
X Server: Xorg Driver: radeon
X.Org version: 1.11.3
dimensions: 1440x900 pixels (380x238 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes
direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org R300 Project
OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on ATI RV530
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.4
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
292 frames in 5.0 seconds = 58.310 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.906 FPS
300 frames in 5.0 seconds = 59.884 FPS

AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3300+
Core 0: @2411 MHz
Linksys WUSB54GC v1 802.11g Adapter [Ralink RT73]

It's working well.

for 5.7.1-retro iso

Posted: Thu 08 Aug 2013, 06:18
by scsijon
one problem with a sort of partial fix, one missing? puppy package

problem is when trying to start the gnome-mplayer:
Barry's sugestion did nothing:
So I tried starting it from the console and got a heap of errors, which all basically led back to being related to the /etc/asound.conf being corrupted or old with the 'sugestion' to remove it
I renamed it
gnome-mplayer now starts ok but still won't play DVD's out of the box.


missing
Could not find our lovely Ogle already installed. Is it deliberate or just something that was skipped?

regards

Re: for 5.7.1-retro iso

Posted: Thu 08 Aug 2013, 07:18
by Billtoo
scsijon wrote: gnome-mplayer now starts ok but still won't play DVD's out of the box.
rcrsn51 has a pet for playing DVD movies:

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=87749

Posted: Thu 08 Aug 2013, 07:22
by scsijon
thank you Billtoo, I shall d/l and try it.

With further investigation I think I have fixed it.

It seems to also need mplayer_codecs_basic2-20130718 installed to play movie dvd's.

I shall try that for a while and see if anything else fails.

Posted: Thu 08 Aug 2013, 08:06
by rcrsn51
scsijon wrote:It seems to also need mplayer_codecs_basic2-20130718 installed to play movie dvd's.
Is there something special about your DVDs? Nobody else has reported needing this additional codec pack.

Posted: Thu 08 Aug 2013, 09:50
by Karl Godt
bigpup wrote:Anyone having these problems with Burniso2 CD?
Burniso2CD program:
Burn speed setting seems to have no affect on burn speed. No matter what setting, it burns at top speed of CD disk.
Multi-session burn option does not work. It still burns a closed disk.
I recently recognized such behavior about the speed setting in Puppy-4.3 , too .
Had upgraded a lot of burning cmdline tools .
Had to disable xorriso-1.2.2 for a definition not found in libncurses .
So am using CDRECORD='cdrecord' . cdrecord might have been upgraded, too .

At least cdrecord output in the rxvt window shows a burn speed around 10, whilst a debug line I inserted
echo " $CDRECORD $BURNMULTI -data -eject -v speed=$BURNSPEED dev=$DEVDEV $ISOFILE"
shows speed=4 .

Have disabled all the -eject parts and added
done #burn-again-loop
eject $CDR
###END###
because this is annoying to me to need to reinsert all the time .

EDIT :

Code: Select all

cd-info
Can set drive speed : No
Could probably be set into burniso2cd ?

UNetbootin fails to detect USB unit...

Posted: Thu 08 Aug 2013, 14:44
by Atle
Hi there...

SO GLAD that UNetbootin is available for Precise. It installs well it seems, No missing dependencies, but it fails to detect my USB flash drive that is always detected.

That said, Precise detects it, but UNetbootin does not pick it up.

That whether its mounted or not. Filesystem is Fat32.

Hope to get some hints on this issue:-)

Best

Atle

Seamonkey and Opera Browsers Crash

Posted: Thu 08 Aug 2013, 14:59
by Montchalin
Non-Pae, retro Precise Puppy 5.7.1 on a Presario X1000

Seamonkey and Opera crash very often. I can not cause the browsers to crash at will, but the mouse seems to be the biggest culprit. Second, would be the keyboard. But I have seen it crash while not even touching the keyboard.

I have had this problem with Saluki, Carolina, Wary,.... I can not remember a time when I did not have the occasional browser crash.

I am surprised nobody else has mentioned this.

Mike