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unicorn316386 wrote:@oui: (snip)What version did you download, and where did you find it? It's icons/layout look broken too.

That comes from changing screen res. All you have to do is right click a drive icon and click "Run Desktop Drive Icon Manager" then when the gui shows check the "Refresh / Realign existing icons" checkbox and click "OK". The drive icons are then redrawn in the correct position.

no:

01micko wrote:

unicorn316386 wrote:@oui: (snip)What version did you download, and where did you find it? It's icons/layout look broken too.

That comes from changing screen res. All you have to do is right click a drive icon and click "Run Desktop Drive Icon Manager" then when the gui shows check the "Refresh / Realign existing icons" checkbox and click "OK". The drive icons are then redrawn in the correct position.

it is not! in the picture 64 bit I did not change some resolution at all... I only did install midori, ... and look! But it is not a bug only from Slacko / Slacko64 but from ALL Puppy's, I repeat me , excepted the one build by sigmarl using Arch (as far I can remember as it is not possible any more to actualise the rolling stage and it would be needing to use the arch installer...).

unicorn316386 wrote:@oui: Is it really necessary to split your comments (3 related) into 4 posts? It is confusing to follow. I don't see midori browser in Slacko 6, or even in the PPM. What version did you download, and where did you find it? It's icons/layout look broken too.

hm, unicorn316386... I am in the 64 version, I write a first message
I reboot
I go into the 32 version, I write a second message
I reboot ...
... and verify a problem in the 2d version before
I reboot ...
--- and report it in a ...
... 3thd message!

What is wrong? Are you to old to understand it and/or follow?

(note: the bugs are also bugs in the standard versions of unicorn... that is why I did recommend to change (also) in woof so that we automatic get clean puppy's in the next times made in woof! but as woof is very split now, with woof-this, woof-that etc, I suppose that the theory of elimination of bugs in woof can not be efficient at all...)

I just installed my Slacko 32 bit. This is very good. I connect to internet by wpa_supplicant by this method: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 105#870105. My stickyjwm also still work here. My problem is, after i change wallpaper by pTheme and apply, it's not change. But when I right click, it is change, when i right click again, it is change again.
Note:
when first time, i change my hostname tobe: recobayu and do not restart x server yet.

other thematic:

the remastering offered in slacko64 6.3.0 works good

but...

a/ i did eliminate something (firefox as I am since Barry did introduce the old mozilla suite in Puppy 1.0.3 or 1.0.4 a fidel user of the suite, also if renamed Seamonkey: I use often Xombrero because secure but all my emails are matter of Seamonkey since about 10 y.! because of Puppy... but I wish, for me, no browser pre installed in Puppy: It is somewhat for an external seamonkey.sfs or iron.sfs or xombrero.sfs as the version of Mozilla become published about daily : a "slacko" can never be actual if it contains such app's )

b/ add a very little thing (links2)

c/ the slacko.sfs did grow

hm...

d/ I can write a lot in English but my comprehension of the language stay difficult in long texts... and I find the texts shown in the remastering app "heavy" or difficult to understand, about some what confusing (see and test the RHS-remaster.pet: after opening, into only once the virtual kew if you want nothing particular!)

oui,

The midori browser has settings you can change.
Having the latest version, is important to having good results.

Puppy comes with a browser for one simple reason.
Puppy has everything you need from the start

Slacko 6.3.0 ( 32bit )

My system is using an Intel i7 4770S ( Haswell ) CPU.
Because of used Intel CPU ( Sandy-Bridge or newer )
by default

scaling driver: intel_pstate
governor: powersave

is used.

Unfortunately scaling driver seems to work not correct.
Permitted CPU frequency is not detected.
In my case used CPU frequency is beyond permissible range.
Fortunately I checked this immediately after 1st boot.
So there is the danger for people using such a CPU to damage or destroy the CPU because of impermissible frequency.

Booting now by using of kernel boot parameter intel_pstate=disable.
Now Intel P-State is deactivated and

scaling driver: acpi-cpufreq
governor: ondemand

is used.
This driver is working flawless in my case.

For safety reasons it would be better to disable intel_pstate by default.
People who want to use or test intel_pstate could enable this driver nevertheless via kernel parameter.

@Billtoo
You are using an Intel Ivy-Bridge CPU ( i3 -3227U ).
Could you take a look at the used frequency scaling driver
and whether it works correctly in your case ?

@01micko and all the other helpful guys
Thanks for all you do !

norgo wrote:Slacko 6.3.0 ( 32bit )



Booting now by using of kernel boot parameter intel_pstate=disable.
Now Intel P-State is deactivated and

scaling driver: acpi-cpufreq
governor: ondemand

is used.
This driver is working flawless in my case.

I've made the change and it's working now, thanks.

Hi bigpup

bigpup wrote:oui,

The midori browser has settings you can change.
Having the latest version, is important to having good results.

Puppy comes with a browser for one simple reason.
Puppy has everything you need from the start

thank you very much. Did you try it? And you find it better after changing the settings? If yes, pls, can you explain which settings have to be changed.

I did continue to test...

I did remove ALL "everythings" what I don't need (geany, leafpad is enough and I prefer gvim or vim if gvim not available, nano, why nano and leafpad and geany and vi ? text is text and 4 editors are NOT better than only one , abiword, gnumeric, homebank, MHwaveedit, mozilla-firefox, xchat, and probably more) to have only tools and not app's I don't know and never will use!

but the size of the iso stay about constant ,,,

much better than ALL last puppy's I did use:

my printer works now in Puppy! That is good, very good...

no presentation?

why?

and magicpoint why will Puppy ignore magicpoint

vimprobable has exactly the same difficulties as midori, xombrero etc (= about all direct childs of webkit ! )

a lot of scripts of RSH works pretty in that environment. it is good to increase the field of uses...

oui wrote:I did remove ALL "everythings" what I don't need (geany, leafpad is enough and I prefer gvim or vim if gvim not available, nano, why nano and leafpad and geany and vi ? text is text and 4 editors are NOT better than only one , abiword, gnumeric, homebank, MHwaveedit, mozilla-firefox, xchat, and probably more) to have only tools and not app's I don't know and never will use!

but the size of the iso stay about constant ,,,

Yes, I think you need to remaster or re-create the folder structure of the main sfs to reduce that space (example).

Major bugs with pMusic on this system. I am looking into it, and will release 4.7.2... I keep on digging...

I have at last got the system fully running (only missing wine). My issue with wrong resolution with my amd-card is a shameful story... After hours of trying, testing, failing, rebooting, searching, reading, more testing, it all ended up with the fact I had copied the grub-text in menu.lst from earlier installs. Removing radeon.modeset=0 made it all beautiful. - OMG, what an idiot

Maybe it's because I haven't configured video yet (hardware acceleration?), but this frugal install slowed down to a crawl after 20 hours. A reboot helped a lot.

From release notes:

There is no AMD/ATI graphics driver built for the 64 bit version

Is there a reason or just have not built one?

pMusic 4.7.2

Changelog
- Packed with xz compression
- Bugfix: Some gui-updates fails in Puppy 6.3.0 (gtkdialog checkbox: file-monitor="true" in combination with milliseconds="true")
- Bugfix: Builtin filebrowser doesn't work in Puppy 6.3.0

Manual frugal install to a 32gb SDHC card, pc is an HP mini.

video-info-glx 1.5.3 Wed 18 Nov 2015 on Slacko64 Puppy 6.3.0 Linux 4.1.11 x86_64
2.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0b)
oem: Intel(R) HSW Mobile/Desktop Graphics Chipset Accelerated VGA BIOS

X Server: Xorg Driver: intel
X.Org version: 1.14.3
dimensions: 1920x1080 pixels (508x285 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes

direct rendering: Yes
server glx vendor string: SGI
server glx version string: 1.4
OpenGL vendor string: Intel Open Source Technology Center
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) Haswell Mobile
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.1 (Core Profile) Mesa 9.1.7

Intel(R) Celeron(R) 2957U @ 1.40GHz
Core 0: @1400 1: @1400 MHz

Added applications with PPM + compiled a couple.

CPU Frequency Scaling Tool wouldn't work properly until
intel_pstate=disable was added to the kernel line in menu.lst, (thanks
norgo).

Working well.

Not a bug - only a humble suggestion for the Buntoo theme.
Since both the application menu and the app-tray is located at the left, I find it more convenient that the pager is in the neighborhood. - When I click the pager, I often are going to open a new app. In my personal Buntoo variant, I have placed the pager between the places menu and the tasklist.
Not important at all...

Should I include a Buntoo-like places-menu in jwm_config, like the bookmark/main menu?

@FeodorF has reported some problem that sound similar to one reported by me and never resolved. One suggestion was that it may be related to the kernel and it was thought that it would resolve itself as kernel development proceeded. BUT, it hasn't.

Scenario of a problem that this distro introduces on one of my PCs:
After a minute or 2 of LAN/browser use, the system stops communicating. "ip addr/ifconfig" shows connection, but no activity is exiting/entering the system via the eth0 card.

To regain communication, I must right click the LAN taskbar icon to disconnect, followed by a reconnection.

This will only get another minute/2, though. So, it is not a resolution. Saving the session and restarting does NOT change this behavior.

The uname shows that the kernel is 4.2.5.

Interesting comparison
@PeeBee's latest LxPUP which has 4.2.5 kernel by Emsee, works as all the other PUP distros do on this AIO PC. That is, no LAN/WAN issues at all.

Further, this Slacko-630 32bit version does not have the problem. It works as expected.

ideas that I can employ to provide feedback which may resolve for others who would stumble upon this behavior?

Thanks in advance
P.S. Testing on other PCs of this Slacko64 does NOT exhibit the problem. But, this Intel platform, newer than all the others, has it.

I am running Slacko64 6.3.0 in a Virtualbox (4.3.26) under Windows Vista on an HP 6930p.

Every time I set the screen resolution to 1024x800 it resets back to 1600x1200 within a minute or so. I am using JWM + Xorg. Restarting JWM does not fix it. I have to select the resolution from the Setup options again & then again...

It does this whether running from the LiveCD or when Fully Installed.

It's also a bit strange that one can only access the Universal Installer via the sidebar item "Puppy Package Manager and Universal Installer" & not via the menu system or a desktop icon. That threw me for a few minutes as I searched the menus in vain!

algol68 wrote:I am running Slacko64 6.3.0 in a Virtualbox (4.3.26) under Windows Vista on an HP 6930p.

Every time I set the screen resolution to 1024x800 it resets back to 1600x1200 within a minute or so. I am using JWM + Xorg. Restarting JWM does not fix it. I have to select the resolution from the Setup options again & then again...

I can't replicate the problem. I run the same Slacko64 under VBox 5.0.10 under Fatdog64. I changed the resolution using "xrandr -s 800x600" from whatever the original was. The change of resolution stick. How did you change the resolution?

On the other hand, I notice that Slacko64 (in VBox and qemu) spent a long time showing "welcome to slacko64 puppy", this is because wget "hangs" (network is up but the DNS resolution fails). Once I kill it, the quicksetup shows up.

With version 6.3.0 of Slacko64 the net browsing is very slow. It takes a while to load pages but version 6.1 was working finr. I did a clean Frugal install and the problem persist.
Off course we have slow internet connection 512kbps and core2duo pc but old precise still loads pages way faster.