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Posted: Mon 12 Mar 2007, 19:45
by rarsa
bostonvaulter wrote:and when i run fixmenus it only updates jwm and icewm. Am i missing something?
Yes, you are. And I know what your problem is.

My implementation of XDG predates Barry's implementation. Our implementations difer in some core points, the most radical being how we categorized the applications. Long story and hopefully something that will be resolved soon.

I have been scratching my head to find a way to cleanly merge both categorizations so his menu structure can work with alternative menu structures as mine does.

If you are not planning to work 100% in Xfce and not go back and forth between JWM and Xfce, you could install my xdg menu puppy structure package

Posted: Mon 12 Mar 2007, 20:51
by bostonvaulter
okay, thanks for the reply.

Maybe i can work out a way to have two menus or something. I've also been trying to work on the XDG part of the wiki, but I need to be able to wrap my head around it first.

Jason

Posted: Mon 12 Mar 2007, 20:59
by Nathan F
Could puppy auto detect installed window managers or do the unleashed build scripts write a file that defines the window managers?
Interesting you mention this, because I implemented it in Grafpup about a month ago. Basically each WM appends a line to the file /etc/wmlist, and a small gui is available to change your default desktop environment. It works with unleashed, and it works if a WM is installed after the fact.

I only mention it because you brought it up.

Nathan

Posted: Mon 12 Mar 2007, 23:22
by amish
i'm in the ice+jwm camp, i don't care which is default because the benefits of ice are such heavy ones, and yet the reason i haven't switched to it is one simple feature: two click (right then left) kill on apps in jwm. in ice it takes a bit more than that, pity.

so i stick with jwm for that single feature, and when i use grafpup 104 (ice by default) i miss it. either default, meh.
This one is interesting...

http://ozonegui.net/
i've linked to ozonegui from my website for a long time! it's a very cool gui- you can write apps for it that will then work in the same dos, linux, or windows environment without being ported.

but this is really less analogous to jwm or ice, ozonegui is more like gtk or qt, you know? the dos version at least seems to have some wm features in it, and i love it. seal or seal2 (a dos thing) by comparison, sucks. glad someone mentioned it tho. i'm not sure how big it would be in puppy, but someday an ozonepup (or a .pet for the ozone gui) would be neat to see. i care more about murgalua, however.