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Thats why they made a scrollbar sage enjoy
I really hate that 600 max thing, life was good until it was changed for a few minorities the majorities suffer. But once and awhile we sneek one in. LOL
ttuuxxx

ttuuxxx

I really hate that 600 max thing, life was good until it was changed for a few minorities the majorities suffer. But once and awhile we sneek one in. LOL

Speaking as one of the "few minorities" who still utilize a normal monitor - and as one who has problems with eyesight - which make scrolling back and forth to read extended text a pain in the ass, I consider your statement to be not only inconsiderate of others, but verging on the arrogant!

Actually I agree with fossil and sage.

I tend to avoid lists where images wider than 800 are posted. I also resize images for webpages I create to a maximum of 800 for the same reason.

And this specific thread is about utilising perfectly functional hardware that isn't state-of-the-art, actually.

So maybe if whoever posted those huge images likes to resize them it'll stop us all from abandoning Robert's thread which I personally find interesting.

That's where moderators who actually moderated could do something... redirect the links of over-sized images to be thumbnails with a click to open in another window/tab.

Just my thoughts. I am occasionally wrong, lol <grinz>

frig guys, you think I have nothing better to do then to go back to a website, download the image, resize the image, upload the image and respond to back to all your cry baby like attitudes over a stupid image size, really I have much better and productive things to do for puppy then sit around here and run when you bark.
ttuuxxx
ps your welcome and I only resize the image for ecomoney because I wouldn't want to harm any of his efforts.

your welcome and I only resize the image for ecomoney because I wouldn't want to harm any of his efforts.

Thank you for your cooperation, on behalf of all those less fortunate in one respect or another

Some of us use Puppy because of the courtesy.
It is a mark of respect

Whatever it costs.
It is worth it.
Thanks guys.

Let us bring Phoenix back from the dead
http://puppylinux.org/community/puppy-c ... ck/phoenix
Whatever it costs.
It is worth it.
Thanks guys.

This lachrymose and myopic mortal extends grateful thanks to all interested parties.

ttuuxxx wrote:frig guys, you think I have nothing better to do then to go back to a website, download the image, resize the image, upload the image and respond to back to all your cry baby like attitudes over a stupid image size, really I have much better and productive things to do for puppy then sit around here and run when you bark.

Do you think I have nothing better to do than to go through what are often pages of slide right and then left on not a 14-inch, but a 19inch monitor, while following a thread? No, I scroll directly to the bottom and remove myself from the thread.

I have better things to do with my time.

Those suggested practices (rules on some forums) are so that we can all get along, thank-you. Called courtesy. What the poster is happy doing during his or her spare time is irrelevant to the people who are browsing from the top of the page downwards.

ttuuxxx wrote:ps your welcome and I only resize the image for ecomoney because I wouldn't want to harm any of his efforts.

That's why I'm still here.

BTW thank-you for considering someone else and resizing the image. Saying thank-you is also old-fashioned courtesy.

If Firefox's handy trick of sizing images to fit the browser window also worked in phpBB forums, this problem wouldn't have occurred.

I've posted this link to the larger image I saved last night just in case.

Hi all, going by our customers, most use a 1024x800 screen, and a broadband connection of a minimum 512kb/s. I realise a lot of people in other countries are on dialup and this can be a problem to them. Im assuming most ecopup users are also broadband users (judging by the size of the ISO!). Weve had 444GB of download THIS WEEK mostly from the release so we must be doing something right - "linux newbs" very rarely post on linux forums believe it or not. "Newbs" are, in our considerable experience of them, quite superficial and like lots of pretty pictures of what they expect a computer to look like...hence the xp "teletubby" theme of Ecopup. Its what gets us paid.

Going even further off topic for a moment...Ive always had the philosophy that technology when used correctly can overcome any problem, and make sure that all "minorities" (i.e. the majority) are catered for. As former phpbb board designers Ive often thought that what would help the puppy community considerably is if we added some modifications to this board. I did mention this some time ago when I first joined. Phpbb message board is an open source project and like firefox can have a great many customisations added to it, including one that will allow photographs to be uploaded easily, with a setting in the users control panel to let individual users choose to see only previews of an image if they require..

Perhaps this time and effort would be better spent being put into making this happen?

I will get everyone started by starting the discussion thread here

Now...back to Ecopup!

Weve also found since then that setting up the internet to connect automatically at bootup via the internet connection wizard does not work, and the user must run the wizard each time they load. it seems the cause of this is the eth0mode file in /etc seems to be deleted at each boot. We dont know why this is happening.

We havnt had the time to implement the above updates/bugfixes to the alpha package, if anyyone would like to volunteer we would be very grateful (and perhaps even pervert the natural course of open source development by offering a small incentive for someone to do it!). We would much rather spend a few hours recycling a computer and selling it to earn the money to pay someone to fix these problems.

Currently were working on an alternative currency application for facebook which considering the current financial situation at the moment is pretty urgent

Thank you all for your interest.

I have had some computers that did not appear to save the Network config info, when in reality it does. But for whatever reason it doesn't connect back up at reboot. The way I solve this in Puppy 3 & 4 series is to find the config file for the wifi card or etho and copy it on to the /etc/rclocal file.


#Libretto100ct ADDS............
/etc/network-wizard/wireless/profiles/"my wifi card Mac address"

You just need to find where that specific file is for the wireless or ethernet card is. In another words it would have to be set for each computer. I've yet to find a universal fix, though I keep trying anyway.

Hi Libretto....I think this is what I will have to do, opy the eth0mode file to the end of etc/rc.d/rc.local. In fact, I think it might be even better to have ecopup try to connect automatically via dhcp on eth0 anyway, since this is the configuration with approx 4 out of five of our clients. I know other distros do this and it has been suggested for puppy also.
Some clients use wireless laptops (increasingly so) so I would have to set these up manually.

Increasingly Ive had to install puppy 4.1.2. for people, just because this gets them online with various problems of wireless/screen compatibility and such like. I would really like to try and upgrade ecopup's "core" to puppy (or even puppy 4.2CE when it comes out). Ive had a few attempts at doing the automatic upgrade (after renaming the eco_save.2fs pup_save.2fs) but it tends to go horribly wrong.

Eco$,

I tried visiting your website today and received "Site Attack" warnings. Any idea what's going on there? I visited your website hoping to get a better idea of what Eco$ystems is all about.

I have a e-cycling company in the States and am utilizing puppy to achieve a similary mission. I'm using Muppy 084 as a base and have customized it from there with: FF3, OO3, Compiz, etc. I had a similar idea as you and added an educational suite; however, I used KDE's Edutainment Suite instead of GCompris (after reducing KDE to about 100MB). In total, it's about the same size as Ecopup and is running on P3-500+. Still working out some bugs though...

I'm downloading your pup now and am anxious to see it. I haven't published my pup yet, but I'd be open to sharing if you're interested in comparing notes.

Jeff

A new useability bug.... powerpoint .ppt files are not opening with openoffice. Will add to the list of updates.

Flash is still causing problems, there are basically three versions of flash 9 as far as I can tell. One will do full screen, one will work better on older computers, some skip frames, another works well but crashes firefox frequently. There are other problems as sites like facebook will only accept the latest flash (9.0.114 I think). Flash has always been a royal PITA due to its closed source, resource hungry nature. Im thinking of attempting to write some sort of script that will allow ecopup to switch between the different versions with a click of a button, but I need to do some more testing and evaluation of all three versions (and maybe even beta10).

Hi anowjeff, I would definetely be interested in comparing notes. Have you tested your pup and researched it on real newbs? Having real-life access to any computer programs eventual users is critical to its success. Its also a painful fact that end-users are used to the limitations of Windows, and when they "buy" ino a new operating system they want it to be as much like their expectations as possible (the teletubby wallpaper works wonders here).

Yes, sorry about the website, our servage account got hacked (as did puppy linux's own servage site, I cant find the link in the search though). Ive cleaned the site up again but google still blacklists it. Im a bit stuck actually as to how to fix it. I did have interviews planned for linux.com and other publications, but theyve shunned me while our website is still in this state.

When I try to go to this web site: http://www.ecomoney.co.uk/ I get a page warning that it has been reported as an Attack Site.
Using Firefox 3.0.5 with NoScript and Adblock Plus and Downloadhelper and Foxmarks addons installed. Have not seen this warning before.
Is this a joke or what?

No Im afraid not...our webhosts servage got their security compromised and some links to virus websites added to invisible tags on our front webpage. Google picked it up and blacklisted our site. We do have someone looking at it for us, and Ive gone through the site and removed the links, so the site is safe to browse.....even on a windows machine.

Servage are moving us to a new server so hopefully this wont happen again...I believe it happened to a few of puppy linux's main websites too.

Sorry for any inconvenience

my account also was compromized, despite the write protection I estabished in the control panel (everything set to "555" recursively).
The index.htm on the main folder and a subfolder got compromized daily.
I finally found a new ftp user I had not created myself.
After deleting him and changing most ftp passwords, the problem disappeared.

Concerning google/firefox, you must create an account at google.
It gives you the option, to recheck your site by google, by using something called "websitetools" or similar, I don't exactly remember the name.
To confirm, that it is your site, you must upload a small certification file to your site, then you can request to rescan your site using thoose tools.
If no more suspicious links are found, your site is removed from googles blacklist, and firefox will no longer warn that it is potentially insecure.

Mark

MU wrote:my account also was compromized, despite the write protection I estabished in the control panel (everything set to "555" recursively).
The index.htm on the main folder and a subfolder got compromized daily.
I finally found a new ftp user I had not created myself.
After deleting him and changing most ftp passwords, the problem disappeared.

Concerning google/firefox, you must create an account at google.
It gives you the option, to recheck your site by google, by using something called "websitetools" or similar, I don't exactly remember the name.
To confirm, that it is your site, you must upload a small certification file to your site, then you can request to rescan your site using thoose tools.
If no more suspicious links are found, your site is removed from googles blacklist, and firefox will no longer warn that it is potentially insecure.

Mark

That would be "Webmaster tools"
I use it along with about half of the other stuff they have. I will work very well in getting your site back to go. I had checked your site with it this morning and was going to PM you but am glad to see that Mark has mentioned it to you. According to Google's tools you will just need to make a few adjustments and have them check the site again.
http://www.google.com/webmasters/

Scott

I just started to download the alpha. I will upload it to my servers tonight.
The link will be
http://www.4neo-quest.com/neoquest/iso/ ... -alpha.iso
It should be about midnight central time US +- 30min.
I hope this will be of some help. Let me know if there are any problems with this link. (In the morning)
This is a download not a mirror. Please check the hash code.

Greets noprimenumbers/MU

MU thank you very much for that walkthrough, Im going to do all the things you suggest to get my site un-blacklisted today. Its been a thorn in our side for quite some time now,

npn, I appreciate the extra mirror. Weve been getting about 700gb per week in download since we put the alpha up, which is far to near our 5tb per month allowance for comfort. Caneri has thankfully provided us with an extra mirror which takes the strain off a bit. Last time we release ecopup it downed our servers for weeks, which also took down some of the small charity and community group websites we host as well. May I ask, where is the server based? I can then put it on our list of download locations. Would you like a link to any of your sites?

Hay there ecomoney

The server is in the US.
When I learn how to set it up as a true mirror it would be better.
For any who don't know how the download can be manually mirrored by using a down-loader and adding all links as mirrors.
I use free download manager for MS

If you have an ad and a news release I would love to add them to my site.
http://www.neo-quest.org/

Your welcome
Scott