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Posted: **Wed 14 Dec 2005, 06:21**

could u share some of your icons? they are beautiful...

Posted: **Wed 14 Dec 2005, 08:20**

could u share some of your icons?

http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/icons.xml

Note: A tarball of all of these icons may be downloaded here (5922kb)

Posted: **Wed 14 Dec 2005, 12:20**

Pizzasgood wrote: But I see where it's good for newcommers and lazy people because it makes it faster to find stuff. Really, the wallpaper-lovers and minimal-desktop people are the ones being wierd, because they are sacrificing functionality for looks.

I disagree with that. When you've got windows open your desktop is covered so you can't access the icons! (unless you switch to another desktop)

Having your "icons" on a panel makes them most easy to access. (and being able to click anywhere on the screeen for the menue makes the rest of the applications more easy to access than the icons.
That's how I see it, anyway.

Posted: **Wed 14 Dec 2005, 14:00**

Dougal wrote:I disagree with that. When you've got windows open your desktop is covered so you can't access the icons! (unless you switch to another desktop)

True Enough In Windows i eliminated my icons on the desktop and used My Quick task bar. Ive been trying to do the same in puppy only i cant seem to make my entries work.

Posted: **Wed 14 Dec 2005, 15:59**

Very nice puppy screenshots in this thread

Don't forget to add yours to this page too!

http://puppylinux.org/user/photogallery.php?album=3

Posted: **Wed 14 Dec 2005, 19:03**

Alucard_the_dex wrote:True Enough In Windows i eliminated my icons on the desktop and used My Quick task bar. Ive been trying to do the same in puppy only i cant seem to make my entries work.

Try this:
http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.php?t=4632

I just updated the Dotpup, now it has an additional icon to launch mozilla, dillo and sylpheed.

Mark

Posted: **Thu 15 Dec 2005, 00:08**

I disagree with that. When you've got windows open your desktop is covered so you can't access the icons! (unless you switch to another desktop)

Yes, but unless you have something launch on boot, you will have immediate access to your stuff. Also, if you don't run everyting maximized (like listening to music), you can still get to them. Look at it this way: Having them there doesn't remove functionality, and it gives a boost right after booting.

As for the toolbar, that's my preffered method too. As I said, I'm one of the minimal-desktop crowd.

Posted: **Thu 15 Dec 2005, 03:49**

http://puppywar.com/

Posted: **Fri 16 Dec 2005, 11:45**

fluxbox + xp theme
rox pinboard + gentoo icons
tux wallpaper
qtcurve gtk engines.
good fonts by recompiling freetype (available as dotpup in additional software ), gdkxft, using bitstream vera fonts.

Posted: **Fri 16 Dec 2005, 12:49**

hey Bombay, the fonts look real good

Posted: **Fri 16 Dec 2005, 20:22**

freetype-6.3.8.pup and bitstream.pup are available in the additional software forum if you want to try. To get the fonts in gtk apps you will have to edit you gtkrc files.

Posted: **Sat 17 Dec 2005, 04:13**

Thanks Bombay.
hmmm... different,but not perfect.

Must play around with the settings a bit.
I think the freetype has the most important effect.

I personally prefer non-Antialiased fonts, how they are used by Gtk1.
On my old Mandrake I once had found a way, to activate AA only for large fonts.
must find out again, how that works.

Mark

Posted: **Sat 17 Dec 2005, 05:52**

i recompiled gdkxft and it produced a gtkrc file. I merged the contents of this with my gtk theme. However qtcurve does this by itself no need to edit the gtkrc. I will upload these files later.

Posted: **Sat 17 Dec 2005, 06:18**

I once had found a way, to activate AA only for large fonts

/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/XftConfig

match
any size < 14
edit
antialias = false;

Posted: **Sat 17 Dec 2005, 06:28**

Guest, no, this is for xft1 only, but puppy uses xft2 I think?

I get no effects on gtk2 and Mozilla.

Posted: **Sat 17 Dec 2005, 07:47**

Code: Select all

# This file created by gdkxft_sysinstall.
# A simple theme that uses anti-aliased fonts with many gtk widgets.

style "lil-tt" 
{
  font="-b&h-lucidux mono-medium-r-normal-*-12-*-*-*-m-*-iso8859-1"
}

style "lil-noaa" 
{
  font="-adobe-times-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1"
}

style "lil-serif" 
{
  font="-urw-times-medium-r-normal-*-14-*-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1"
}

style "lil-sans" 
{
  font="-urw-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-13-*-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1"
}

style "big-sans" 
{
  font="-urw-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-15-*-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1"
}

style "llil-sans" 
{
  font="-urw-helvetica-medium-r-normal-*-10-*-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1"
}

widget_class "*" style "lil-noaa"
widget_class "*Entry*" style "lil-serif"
widget_class "*Label*" style "lil-sans"
widget_class "*Button*" style "lil-sans"
widget_class "*Menu*" style "lil-sans"
widget_class "*MenuBar*" style "big-sans"
widget_class "*Toolbar*" style "lil-sans"
widget_class "*Frame" style "llil-sans"

gtkrc created by gdkxft recompile. edit it to your liking. I have edited it to use one font for all bitstream vera. details on how to get bitstream vera in x are available here http://www.murga.org/~puppy/viewtopic.p ... highlight=. you will also have to recompile gdkxft. I dont know waht all files have been changed by it, so I have not been able to make a dotpup out of it.

Posted: **Sat 17 Dec 2005, 09:21**

ok, thanks.

I found a setting now, that is ok for me.
In Mozilla I chose Bitstream Vera, and I installed your freetype.pup.
Then I deleted all files in /etc/fonts.
I did this just for testing, and was quite astonished then that it looks good

http://dotpups.de/pics/puppy/fonts.jpg

This throws an errormessage when starting leafpad from a console:
Fontconfig error: Cannot load default config file
But leafpad starts without problems

Mark

Posted: **Sat 17 Dec 2005, 09:54**

MU wrote:Guest, no, this is for xft1 only, but puppy uses xft2 I think?

I get no effects on gtk2 and Mozilla.

Yes, xft2.
You have to edit /etc/fonts/local.conf.

Put something like this in it:

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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<!DOCTYPE fontconfig SYSTEM "fonts.dtd">
<!-- /etc/fonts/local.conf file for local customizations -->
<fontconfig>

        <match target="font">
            <test name="size" compare="less">
                <double>11</double>
            </test>
            <edit name="antialias" mode="assign">
                <bool>false</bool>
            </edit>
        </match>
        <match target="font">
            <test name="pixelsize" compare="less" qual="any">
                <double>11</double>
            </test>
            <edit mode="assign" name="antialias">
                <bool>false</bool>
            </edit>
        </match>

</fontconfig>

Posted: **Sat 17 Dec 2005, 10:53**

I think maybe the last few messages should be moved into a thread of their own with an appropriate title. This info could be useful to people who might not look in the Misc part of the forum (especially in this thread...).
It's a shame to have useful discussions buried in irrelevant threads.

Posted: **Sat 17 Dec 2005, 12:29**

Yes I agree, This is a request to the admin to cut the the last few post irrelevant to the topic and move them to new topic 'freetype, xft & gdkxft tweaks for better fonts'.

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