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Posted: Sat 01 Aug 2009, 16:44
by sidders
I had a problem similar on a csX. I upgraded the bios from the Dell website to A13 (or sonething like that) Could be worth exploring that option first.

Posted: Sun 02 Aug 2009, 13:27
by ecomoney
If there is already windoze installed, use the new puppy installer

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=44098

You could then delete the windows program files and my documents which would essentially leave puppy installed on an ntfs partition (yes...we can install linux to ntfs now :wink: )

Another way would be to use a puppy boot floppy called wakepup, which I believe then transfers "control" of the boot process to a cd.

http://www.puppylinux.org/?q=wiki/softw ... es/wakepup

Out of the box...live!

Posted: Sat 08 Aug 2009, 01:57
by firepants-jr
Thanks, guy!

Up and running w/ a 4.2.1 Frugal install in minutes. I love it when things work. :D

Posted: Sun 09 Aug 2009, 16:02
by muklinux
i have an itronix gobook max ix550 and it has no cd drive i do have a usb can i install from a usb. also will puppy run my wireless netgear card, will puppy be faster than ubuntu 8.04...this thing is slow p3 128mb ram. i just want a surfing pc

Posted: Tue 11 Aug 2009, 15:13
by Randy Pete
My install was quick and easy.

However...grub does not work...cannot boot from HD.

Posted: Tue 11 Aug 2009, 17:30
by Randy Pete
Cancel my last comment,

I just re-installed 4.2.1 to HD as a full install.

Now everything works.

How to do a One-Click Installation of Puppy

Posted: Sat 12 Sep 2009, 08:24
by Roy
I am kinda' teetering on the edge here, wondering if this might be adaptable to provide an (any) advantage for netbook owners....

Theoretically, I should be able to boot an disc-burned iso on a full sized machine, use the Universal Installer to install Puppy onto a USB, boot from that USB onto a netbook, and (here is the theoretical part) run the USB Puppy's Universal Installer to accomplish a full install onto a netbook. All this to save the weight / burden of carrying an external CDROM drive around in my hip pocket... but I've never actually wiped everything and re-installed while I've been out on the road, so this remains theoretical to me. I have instead always returned 'home', with my head hung low, and used the external CD to correct my errant ways. (Has anybody actually done a full install to an internal hard drive, using only a normal/frugal USB Puppy as the entire source?)

Would an adaptation of this script / files provide any advantage over the theoretical procedure I've just outlined for (re)installation of a full install from a USB drive?

Maybe as an automated quick-erase security feature for a netbook's internal Solid State Drive?

Wondering/wandering minds... and all that.

-Roy

New to Puppy

Posted: Tue 22 Sep 2009, 17:01
by SaraB67217
Hello. I am really new to this. I am trying to fix, umm :?: reuse an old Dell laptop. It had Window vista on it and crashed. I was able to load an old version of Windows 98 SE that I had a disk for, but it isn't very usable for my needs. I was searching for a new OS when I came across Puppy, but I am definately not very good at all this. Can anyone simplify all this for a not too smart nurse back in school? :shock:

Re: How to do a One-Click Installation of Puppy

Posted: Tue 22 Sep 2009, 17:32
by puppyite
Roy wrote:I am kinda' teetering on the edge here, wondering if this might be adaptable to provide an (any) advantage for netbook owners....

Theoretically, I should be able to boot a disc-burned iso on a full sized machine, use the Universal Installer to install Puppy onto a USB, boot from that USB onto a netbook, and (here is the theoretical part) run the USB Puppy's Universal Installer to accomplish a full install onto a netbook. All this to save the weight / burden of carrying an external CDROM drive around in my hip pocket... but I've never actually wiped everything and re-installed while I've been out on the road, so this remains theoretical to me. I have instead always returned 'home', with my head hung low, and used the external CD to correct my errant ways. (Has anybody actually done a full install to an internal hard drive, using only a normal/frugal USB Puppy as the entire source?)
No I haven't done a full install from USB but I can't imagine how it would be different than installing from a Live disc.

As an aside these vendors sell Puppy on USB flash drive:
OSDisc, Puppy 4.3 USB
On-Disk, Puppy 4.2 USB
I’ll wager it’s available elsewhere too if you prefer to shop around.

Posted: Tue 22 Sep 2009, 18:32
by sidders
SaraB67217 . There are 2 type of install you can perform, a Full or Frugal. Which install you use depends on how much memory the dell has.

256mb ram plus = Frugal otherwise a full install.

If you need to hunt around the forums for info use the Puppy Google search:


http://wellminded.com/puppy/pupsearch.html

More info in installing here http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=29356

and the beginners help page in the forum is here
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/index.php?f=2

If you find your stuck shout up.

Posted: Mon 28 Sep 2009, 21:11
by ASRI éducation
rcrsn51 wrote:For recyclers who want to image machines quickly, the easiest solution would be a remastered Live CD with the installer folder on the CD but external to the sfs file.
Thanks for your scripts rcrsn51

The full-install interests me. So I Frenchified and added your script to remaster my Toutou Linux 4.1.2 repack (version edutainment FR, for children aged 3 to 12 years).

The beta version of this French adaptation (TL4.12-asri.edu-FULLversion_beta-1.5.5.iso) is available on http://dl.free.fr/MuYEYr/ASRI_education/login Identifiant : ASRI Mot de passe : education

After some tests, I am convince that this feature could save time for volunteers from the association that I chair (ASRI education http://asri.edu.free.fr/).

But things do not work and I don't know why. If someone can help me understand, it would be nice.

Indeed, when i use on my computer the script "fulscr", the result is a single format ext2 partition without swap (usually, I use ext3 + swap). Why ?

I also noticed a new file "pupswap.swp" placed at the root of the drive.
I read ligne 93 of the "fulscr"

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#Create a swap file
dd if=/dev/zero of=/mnt/$HDISK/pupswap.swp bs=1M count=128
mkswap /mnt/$HDISK/pupswap.swp
What does it mean ?

Best regards,

:)

Delightfull installation on CF-card as an HDD

Posted: Wed 30 Sep 2009, 19:53
by Hubi5171
I made a frugal install to a Compact Flash Card to test an CF to PATA 2.5"(44pin) converter. All went O.K.
Desktop PC: Pentium 4 1700MHz, 768MB DRAM Memory, 1x FDD, 1x CD/DVD single side burner, no HDD (hard file).
HDD: thant's the point - using as an HDD replacement:
disconnected the only 3.5"HDD and installed instead:
mainboard - cable - 3,5" to 2,5" reduction - 44pinPATA to CF-card adapter - 256MB Compact Flash Card=sda1.
The swapfile (pupswap.swp) uses 128MB.
Red "storage full warning" appears on top of the screen - sda1 has four MB left free.
What for this exercise -
I'm planning to swap the HDD 8GB(customer replacable, W98SE and SUSE9.x) of my notebook (300MHz / 192MB Memory / USB1.2 / softmodem / CD ROM) against a 8GB 133x compactflash card (modifying an old HDD to carry the adapter with access for changing the CF card).
This entry is just to give feedback and to say MANY THANKS !
ciao Hubi
P.S.: repeated today this exercise by using an P-ATA (44pin=2,5"HDDs) to SD-card adapter, hence using a 2GB SD-Card as sda1.

ext2 partition without swap

Posted: Thu 01 Oct 2009, 20:04
by ASRI éducation
I am not lucky ...

Nobody has an idea to unlock my problem?

I studied the script installation and I do not understand what's wrong.

Thank you in advance
:)

Posted: Thu 01 Oct 2009, 20:23
by sidders
ASRI eduction- This is on my to-do list. We did experiment with it some time ago, and dropped the full install part, however i have just looked through and Technosaurus came up with some code that will look at the ammount of RAM installed and then make a decision to do a Full or Frugal install. The full install could look back on that result and then double to make the appropriate swap.
I havn't looked at it for a while and am going to do a few full install's using the PUI and see exactly what is happening in the near future. Still working on SFS icons.

Heres the link to the posts
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 751#311751

Posted: Thu 01 Oct 2009, 20:36
by ASRI éducation
Sidders, a big thank you for this information.

I immediately test the link you suggest.

:lol:

Posted: Sat 03 Oct 2009, 22:25
by rcrsn51
@ASRI: A swap file is a quick way to create swap space without having to repartition your hard drive. If you use the "free" command, you should see the swap file memory in use.

However, if you prefer to build your hard drive partitions before installing Puppy, you just need to modify the one-click scripts. For example, in the full-install script, you could:

delete lines 74-85
modify lines 89 and 90
delete lines 92-94

Posted: Sun 04 Oct 2009, 14:43
by ASRI éducation
@ rcrsn51
Thank you for this information.
:wink:

Re: How to do a One-Click Installation of Puppy

Posted: Thu 26 Nov 2009, 08:43
by inkheart
rcrsn51 wrote:...Here are the steps to do a one-click automated install.

We will assume that you already have a Live CD that works on the target machine and you are familiar with basic Puppy operations. Read here for more information. (If you want to install Puppy in a dual-boot setup with Windows, read here.)

Download and extract the package of installers below. It contains installation scripts that will do an automatic hard drive install of any official Puppy version back to 2.15. There are scripts for both frugal and full configurations. For most machines, a frugal install is the simpler, faster choice. It also gives you the flexibility to add other features to Puppy, like Open Office.

These installers will erase the hard drive, format a new partition, create a swap file, install Puppy and set up the GRUB bootloader. They should work on any machine with standard hardware.

Download and extract the "installers" folder. Copy it to a flash drive or diskette. Or, if you already have the target machine on-line with the Live CD, just download the package directly and store it in /root.

Boot the target computer off the Live CD.
If there is an existing version of Puppy on the hard drive or if you have been storing a pup_save file there, you must boot up by typing the option:

Code: Select all

puppy pfix=ram
Leave the CD in the drive.

Mount the flash drive or diskette, open the "installers" folder and click on the icon labelled "frugal-install". Before installation starts, you will get to answer a YES/NO question.

When the installation is done, finish with a shutdown/reboot and make a pup_save file. Your computer is ready to run Puppy on the next start.

...
I tried to follow the above steps. After the installation, i rebooted the computer. When puppy loaded, i tried to unmount the cd, but it said that i couldn't 'cause it was being used. I thought that if Puppy were installed on the hard disk, i won't need the cd anymore?

Custom Boot CD

Posted: Mon 30 Nov 2009, 21:34
by jamalexa
I used Browserlinux and added a .sfs and some pets, I created and renamed my pup_save file and ran this from the live cd. How can I take your "steps to make a custom boot CD for recyclers " and create my own boot cd? I want to install my customized Browserlinux for seniors in my church and community on donated computers. Please help.

Posted: Wed 16 Dec 2009, 15:13
by knuesel
following directions below. right mouse button step does not yield "window/enter path"...


directions:

Start "Menu | Filesystem | ROX-Filer file filemanager".



Click with the right mouse button and choose "Window | Enter Path" from the context menu.



Type this into the box labelled "Goto" (do not omit the slash at the end): /mnt/hda2/boot/grub/



You are now inside the /mnt/hda2/boot/grub/ folder.