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Posted: Thu 01 Apr 2010, 07:30
by nubc
I hardly used Puppy 4.3.1 because there wasn't any way to put VLC on it. There's also an issue of recognizing media file formats, which may be related to the version of Flash. Apparently Flash 9 plays some things that Flash 10 can't handle, probably because Flash 10 doesn't properly identify the format of the media file, which is a very inconvenient shortcoming.

Posted: Thu 01 Apr 2010, 07:31
by ttuuxxx
FlyingRedGoat wrote:Regarding V1.
The first time I used the new seamonkey, It crashed my network card (broadcom). I don't know why, as it also caused my computer to freeze, then reboot. Since then it has worked fine though (3x), so it may have been a fluke.

Seamonkey imports the settings from SM1 the first time. It may confuse the new people, but doesn't hurt functionality.

The flash screen for GRUB says puppy 4.31.

I'm glad to see you on Puppy 4.32. 8)

K
The crash could be because it loaded your older settings at boot which might have issues with SM2, I would try it with
puppy pfix=ram
ttuuxxx

Posted: Thu 01 Apr 2010, 08:34
by DaveS
ttuuxxx wrote:
DaveS wrote:Thread here about the horrid offset filechooser dialogue with possible fixes
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=52993
Been using this with no problems.
have you tried it with this version of 4.3 with the updated rox and plus I have the trash icon on the bottom rt corner of the screen as a placement that should help also.
All the apps listed show up fine when opened on a square 19" LCD
ttuuxxx
On my system with 1280x760 screen, offset still present placing bottom window buttons way below screen. Ran fixes mentioned and it is ok. Trah icon part obscured by bottom tray.

Posted: Thu 01 Apr 2010, 08:35
by DaveS
ttuuxxx wrote:
DaveS wrote:Is it possible to reduce the height(depth) of the tabs themselves? They take up more screen space than they need to, especially on smaller screens. I have tried to figure it out but failed. If it is just a line in userchrome, could be a simple thing to do....................
When I get some free time after I'm done this release I'll have a look, But The theme I'm using already has tiny tabs to start with, much smaller than the theme you posted. actually if you removed the bookmarks and name under icons it would be really ideal for small screens
ttuuxxx
That is great thanks, way smaller as you say.

Posted: Thu 01 Apr 2010, 08:36
by DaveS
Latest PetmakerPlus should probably be included. I tested it and its fine.

Posted: Thu 01 Apr 2010, 09:12
by ttuuxxx
DaveS wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:
DaveS wrote:Thread here about the horrid offset filechooser dialogue with possible fixes
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=52993
Been using this with no problems.
have you tried it with this version of 4.3 with the updated rox and plus I have the trash icon on the bottom rt corner of the screen as a placement that should help also.
All the apps listed show up fine when opened on a square 19" LCD
ttuuxxx
On my system with 1280x760 screen, offset still present placing bottom window buttons way below screen. Ran fixes mentioned and it is ok. Trah icon part obscured by bottom tray.
which fixes did you use that link post a lot of potential fixes, I'm not going to replace gtk if that is the fix, down grading gtk reduces apps that compile with this version like the latest gimp.
ttuuxxx

Posted: Thu 01 Apr 2010, 09:20
by ttuuxxx
DaveS wrote:
ttuuxxx wrote:
DaveS wrote:Is it possible to reduce the height(depth) of the tabs themselves? They take up more screen space than they need to, especially on smaller screens. I have tried to figure it out but failed. If it is just a line in userchrome, could be a simple thing to do....................
When I get some free time after I'm done this release I'll have a look, But The theme I'm using already has tiny tabs to start with, much smaller than the theme you posted. actually if you removed the bookmarks and name under icons it would be really ideal for small screens
ttuuxxx
That is great thanks, way smaller as you say.
also if you go to http://www.tom-cat.com/mozilla/seamonkey.html
you can enable a built in silver gradient that looks similar to your old theme, then it might just be a case of changing to your old themes icons and basically you'll have what you wanted in the first place
ttuuxxx

Posted: Thu 01 Apr 2010, 12:35
by technosaurus
Re: PuppyBrowser
There was a xulrunner browser that was posted by one of the mozilla developers back when they were still making a strong effort to have all mozilla apps be able to run on a common base. It may be easier to get working than gtkmozembed (of course that would mean seamonkey/firefox would need to be built with libxul)

Posted: Thu 01 Apr 2010, 12:46
by FlyingRedGoat
ttuuxxx wrote:
FlyingRedGoat wrote:Regarding V1.
The first time I used the new seamonkey, It crashed my network card (broadcom). I don't know why, as it also caused my computer to freeze, then reboot. Since then it has worked fine though (3x), so it may have been a fluke.
The crash could be because it loaded your older settings at boot which might have issues with SM2, I would try it with
puppy pfix=ram
ttuuxxx
All these sessions were pfix=ram. I'm hoping to get some time for an install of V1 later today.

K

Posted: Thu 01 Apr 2010, 13:11
by DaveS
ttuuxxx wrote: which fixes did you use that link post a lot of potential fixes, I'm not going to replace gtk if that is the fix, down grading gtk reduces apps that compile with this version like the latest gimp.
ttuuxxx
These two .pets http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 105#404105

Did that effectively change GTK?

Posted: Thu 01 Apr 2010, 13:14
by Ray MK
Hi ttuuxxx
Thanks for this -
as a regular n00bie user it's nice to know that all the little
(and maybe not so little) gremlins are being fixed.

The only obvious little something missing is - no woof woof.
Presume this is because no puppybrowser starts?
Thats ok.

Like SM2 - all seems to work as normal.

Got to work now - so catch up later.

Very best regards - Ray

Posted: Thu 01 Apr 2010, 13:37
by FlyingRedGoat
I imagine these are on your to do list, but I'm mentioning them just to be thorough.

The SFS file is called 431.
The folder the frugal install defaults to is called 431.
The title on install is "Puppy Linux 4.31 Frugal".

As for the network card crashing, it happened again. This time it was not associated with seamonkey (I hadn't started it). No errors, the card just stopped seeing any networks. This was on a second computer, with a different card (RaLink RT2561/RT61 PCI). Works fine after reboot.

I don't know what else to check for the network card. If you thinks it's important just let me know what you need done.

K

Posted: Thu 01 Apr 2010, 14:39
by jemimah
Since you're not building from Woof, you may want to comb Barry's blog and grab some of his bug fixes. For instance, the init script has a least a couple important bugfixes that I know of. Also the pup_frontend_event_d script has some nice improvements, maybe that new installer with usb bootsplash.... that sort of thing.

Posted: Thu 01 Apr 2010, 15:15
by cthisbear
I haven't had a look yet but will Seamonkey
render this site better.

http://www.stgeorge.com.au/

Top RH corner login near Corporate and a little
green block is the login...something to do with fonts right.

The last couple of Puppies...logging in is a pain.

Chris.

Posted: Thu 01 Apr 2010, 16:03
by DaveS
cthisbear wrote:I haven't had a look yet but will Seamonkey
render this site better.

http://www.stgeorge.com.au/
Er........... not great! :(

Posted: Thu 01 Apr 2010, 16:46
by ttuuxxx
cthisbear wrote:I haven't had a look yet but will Seamonkey
render this site better.

http://www.stgeorge.com.au/

Top RH corner login near Corporate and a little
green block is the login...something to do with fonts right.

The last couple of Puppies...logging in is a pain.

Chris.
hi Chris I did a site validations at w3schools and it had 92 errors on the first page!
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http% ... .com.au%2F
also have you mentioned this to seamonkey development crew? If it worked fine under SM1 then it should be the same for SM2, Westpac works fine https://online.westpac.com.au/esis/Logi ... .com.au%2F
ttuuxxx

Posted: Fri 02 Apr 2010, 00:10
by 8-bit
You already discovered that previous versions of Puppy were built with the 1.xx versions of Seamonkey because so much relied on it.
When I installed the 2.01 version, I found that the desktop MAIL icon failed to work also.
I think the upgrading of Seamonkey was never done because no one was willing to trace down all the other programs dependencies on it and fix them.
It is a monumental effort so good luck!

Posted: Fri 02 Apr 2010, 00:47
by ttuuxxx
8-bit wrote:You already discovered that previous versions of Puppy were built with the 1.xx versions of Seamonkey because so much relied on it.
When I installed the 2.01 version, I found that the desktop MAIL icon failed to work also.
I think the upgrading of Seamonkey was never done because no one was willing to trace down all the other programs dependencies on it and fix them.
It is a monumental effort so good luck!
mail,seamonkey,composer,address book all work :)
ttuuxxx

Posted: Fri 02 Apr 2010, 00:59
by ttuuxxx
21 fixes/updates so far should I build another testing release or keep moving forward?
ttuuxxx

Posted: Fri 02 Apr 2010, 01:17
by cthisbear
" should I build another testing release "

Does a horse eat hay?

And thanks 4 looking at St George.

Chris.