Installing Frugal Wary and Retro Precise - severe issues!

[rcrsn51]

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find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /wary53frugal/initrd.gz 

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root (hd0,5)

[L18L]

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My "sdb" is a floppy drive. I don't think that matters, but basically I think mine is similar to yours - please let me know if it isn't....

My sdb is a thumb drive
I do not have any floppy
... but that does not matter.

Our grub4dos versions are different.

[VictorVictor5]

rcrsn51,

Did you want me to put that root command line you posted where all of the "find" lines are? Just wanted to ask first before I did something stupid.

[rcrsn51]

Put it in the entry that you select from the menu when you boot.

[VictorVictor5]

Ok,

This is what I get when I try to load Wary frugal after I select it on the Grub4Dos Menu.


Booting Puppy wary 5.3 (sda6/wary53frugalinstall)

kernel /wary53frugal/vmlinuz psubdir=wary53frugal pmedia=atahd pfix=fsck

Error 15: File not found

Press any key to continue...

[rcrsn51]

There is something strange going on here.

On sda6, I would take the files out of the subfolder and move them to the root of the partition.

Run Grub4Dos again.

Apply the "root (hd0,5)" change.

[VictorVictor5]

No just hangs - Booting Puppy wary 5.3 (sda6).

If you give me a minute I can post the new menu.lst file. Plus I can't boot to winXP again, it changed the uuid.

Weird all around.

[VictorVictor5]

Here's the menu.lst file. Note the old entry that did work for Windows XP:

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title Microsoft Windows XP Professional (sda1:PBS)
  uuid 1C783A7B783A542C
  chainloader +1

And what worked for Full Wary

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title Wary Puppy 5.3 (sda1/boot/kernel->sda6)
  root(hd0,0)
  kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda6 ro

So now this is what I have:

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# menu.lst produced by grub4dosconfig-v1.7.2
color white/blue black/cyan white/black cyan/black
timeout 30
default 0

# Frugal installed Puppy

title Puppy wary 5.3 (sda6)
  #find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /puppy_wary_5.3.sfs
  root (hd0,5)
  kernel /vmlinuz    pmedia=atahd pfix=fsck
  initrd /initrd.gz

title Puppy wary 5.3 (sda6) RAM mode\nBoot up Puppy without pupsave
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /puppy_wary_5.3.sfs
  kernel /vmlinuz    pmedia=atahd pfix=ram,fsck
  initrd /initrd.gz

# Windows
# this entry searches Windows on the HDD and boot it up
title Windows\nBoot up Windows if installed
  errorcheck off
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd  /bootmgr
  chainloader /bootmgr
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd  /ntldr
  chainloader /ntldr
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd   /io.sys
  chainloader /io.sys
  errorcheck on

# Boot from Partition Boot Sector

title Unknown (sda5:PBS)
  uuid A29805DA9805AE3B
  chainloader +1

title Unknown (sdb:PBS)
  map (hd1) (hd0)
  map (hd0) (hd1)
  map --hook
  root (hd0,0)
  chainloader +1

# additionals

title Find Grub2\nBoot up grub2 if installed
  find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /boot/grub/core.img
  kernel /boot/grub/core.img

title Grub4Dos commandline\n(for experts only)
  commandline

title Reboot computer
  reboot

title Halt computer
  halt

[rcrsn51]

It seems like there's something wonky about your BIOS that keeps it from seeing the extended partition. So here is something to try.

1. Move vmlinuz and initrd.gz to the root of sda1, assuming that there is space.

2. Leave the sfs file in sda6.

3. Change the menu.lst entry to

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root (hd0,0)
kernel /vmlinuz pmedia=atahd pdev1=sda6
initrd /initrd.gz

[bigpup]

Just some options.

Some people have results by removing

pmedia=atahd

From the kernel line of the entry.

There is a newer version of Grub4dos. 1.8.0
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewtopic.php?t=51697

Boot with the Wary live CD.
Download and install the new pet of Grub4dos.
Run it while still running from the live CD.

A typical entry using the newer version of Grub4dos looks like this:

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title Puppy precise 5.4 (sda3/precise54)
  uuid 3f9de134-a95d-4a9d-9d42-cd5e98895ac6
  kernel /precise54/vmlinuz   psubdir=precise54 pmedia=atahd pfix=fsck
  initrd /precise54/initrd.gz

[VictorVictor5]

rcrsn51,

YES! Now we are getting somewhere.

I have 3 quick questions still:

1.) Do you want me to move my wary files back to the folder they were in, or keep them in sda6 root, or does that matter?

2.) When I am in wary frugal, it says that I only have 504M of personal storage, but I installed Wary frugal to sda6 which has 70 GB of space. Is this a bug or do I need to do something else?

3.) When I install Retro Puppy as frugal, I imagine there is going to be another vmlinuz file and initrd.gz file - so where should I put those 2? In sda1 again?

We're getting somewhere!

VV5

[VictorVictor5]

bigpup,

On installing the new Grub4Dos - I'm also trying to install Retro frugally - do I have to install the updated Grub4Dos on both installs, or just one?

Thanks!
VV5

[rcrsn51]

Do you want me to move my wary files back to the folder they were in, or keep them in sda6 root, or does that matter?

If you were only installing Wary, you could leave all the files where they are. But if you want to install another Puppy, you will need subfolders - both in sda1 and sda6. You will then need to modify your menu.lst accordingly and add the psubdir option.

When I am in wary frugal, it says that I only have 504M of personal storage, but I installed Wary frugal to sda6 which has 70 GB of space. Is this a bug or do I need to do something else?

This is a frugal install. The 504 MB refers to the space in your save file, which you created at the first shutdown. There is a Puppy utility for increasing the size of your save file.

[yorkiesnorkie]

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find --set-root --ignore-floppies --ignore-cd /wary53frugal/initrd.gz 

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root (hd0,5)

That was my suggestion as well earlier this weekend. I was puzzled why it didn't work.

What about the mapping? I noticed this in one of the menu.lst entries:

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map (hd1) (hd0)
  map (hd0) (hd1)
  map --hook
  root (hd0,0) , 

[VictorVictor5]

Oh, so since I chose 512 MB on the save file - that means I'll only have 512 MB of storage on the Wary part of the 70 GB partition, correct?

Thanks!
VV5

[rcrsn51]

Oh, so since I chose 512 MB on the save file - that means I'll only have 512 MB of storage on the Wary part of the 70 GB partition, correct?

You have two choices:

1. Make your save file bigger.

2. Save content in /mnt/home, which is the part of sda6 that is outside of your save file.

[yorkiesnorkie]

I found this reference with regard to error 15:

[quote]The error gives you a message “Error 15: File not found!

[VictorVictor5]

rcrsn51,

One more question for now (and before I make changes).

Just curious - is it possible to have a full install Puppy and a frugal install on the same partition, i.e., Wary Full on sda6, and Retro Frugal on sda6?

Given my configuration, is that possible, or is that not even advised in general?

Thanks again!
VV5

[rcrsn51]

[quote="yorkiesnorkie"]I found this reference with regard to error 15:

[quote]The error gives you a message “Error 15: File not found!

[yorkiesnorkie]

[quote="yorkiesnorkie"]I found this reference with regard to error 15:

[quote]The error gives you a message “Error 15: File not found!