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Posted: Tue 22 Jan 2013, 23:39
by RetroTechGuy
jpeps wrote:Yes, similar to what I posted. Looks like you're using some swap as well. Check out info for the browser though, which includes CPU usage. I think the kernel will take what it needs from the cache anyway, so probably it's unnecessary to clean it ? It certainly doesn't restore resources the way restarting the browser does.
Mine doesn't seem to pound the CPU too badly, it just gobbles RAM... Here is top, sorted for memory:
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26730 5756 root S 436m 46% 0 6% firefox
5648 5647 root S < 158m 17% 0 2% X :0 -br -nolisten tcp
28126 26730 root R 85236 9% 0 11% /initrd/pup_ro4/opt/firefox-16.0.2/plugin-container /usr/
5756 1 root S 40380 4% 0 0% /usr/local/apps/ROX-Filer/ROX-Filer -p /root/Choices/ROX-
27396 5756 root S 30648 3% 0 0% geany
10604 5756 root S 29680 3% 0 0% roxterm
6458 1 root S 18352 2% 0 0% fbpanel
I just ran my cache cleaner
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Initial free space
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 969868 757472 212396 0 60548
Swap: 1228964 2780 1226184
Total: 2198832 760252 1438580
clearing cache
Final free space
total used free shared buffers
Mem: 969868 310924 658944 0 576
Swap: 1228964 2780 1226184
Total: 2198832 313704 1885128
Top still shows it simmering at about 448MB RAM . Apparently "free" and "top" compute memory differently...
Posted: Wed 23 Jan 2013, 00:17
by jpeps
You can get rid of the plugin container.
Mine doesn't seem to pound the CPU too badly, it just gobbles RAM... Here is top, sorted for memory:
I loaded it up for testing. Restart clears it (also gives back additional ram beyond clearing the cache). You might have a more powerful CPU.
Posted: Thu 24 Jan 2013, 02:22
by RetroTechGuy
jpeps wrote:You can get rid of the plugin container.
Mine doesn't seem to pound the CPU too badly, it just gobbles RAM... Here is top, sorted for memory:
I loaded it up for testing. Restart clears it (also gives back additional ram beyond clearing the cache). You might have a more powerful CPU.
Yeah, I'm running an Athlon 2200. But when the RAM gets full, she's "toast"...
Posted: Thu 24 Jan 2013, 04:25
by jpeps
RetroTechGuy wrote:
Yeah, I'm running an Athlon 2200. But when the RAM gets full, she's "toast"...
Nothing any of us will need to worry about for much longer. A cheap replacement for my Dell Inspiron costs $399, retail. It's available only with 64 bit, and comes with a minimum of 4 gigs SDRAM with a 500 gig hard drive. This is just a basic starter machine for doing your homework on before you have a real job.
Posted: Thu 24 Jan 2013, 05:42
by rjbrewer
RetroTechGuy wrote:jpeps wrote:You can get rid of the plugin container.
Mine doesn't seem to pound the CPU too badly, it just gobbles RAM... Here is top, sorted for memory:
I loaded it up for testing. Restart clears it (also gives back additional ram beyond clearing the cache). You might have a more powerful CPU.
Yeah, I'm running an Athlon 2200. But when the RAM gets full, she's "toast"...
Running a pc with Athlon 2200, 1Gb ram, youtube vids crash every time with or without swap.
My old Inspiron 700m (1.6Ghz) 1Gb ram, runs great;
no swap needed.
I use Htop to watch ram and cpu usage.
Posted: Thu 24 Jan 2013, 06:55
by jpeps
rjbrewer wrote:
Running a pc with Athlon 2200, 1Gb ram, youtube vids crash every time with or without swap.
My old Inspiron 700m (1.6Ghz) 1Gb ram, runs great;
no swap needed.
For how long?
Posted: Thu 24 Jan 2013, 16:13
by rjbrewer
jpeps wrote:rjbrewer wrote:
Running a pc with Athlon 2200, 1Gb ram, youtube vids crash every time with or without swap.
My old Inspiron 700m (1.6Ghz) 1Gb ram, runs great;
no swap needed.
For how long?
I use full installs.
700m has been running 3+ days.
Using Wary5.3, Seamonkey 2.61
It does not accumulate ram use over time.
Running streaming Youtube video, a video file, radio stream
and murga forum at same time, ram use is under 400mb
according to htop.
Cpu can max to 100% without slowing the vids or
overheating.
Posted: Thu 24 Jan 2013, 16:25
by jpeps
rjbrewer wrote:
700m has been running 3+ days.
Using Wary5.3, Seamonkey 2.61
It does not accumulate ram use over time.
Running streaming Youtube video, a video file, radio stream
and murga forum at same time, ram use is under 400mb
according to htop.
Cpu can max to 100% without slowing the vids or
overheating.
Well, if you're up to 400mb and 100% CPU usage, there's not much more your computer can handle. Try some tests like opening about 20 tabs, or running some programs like Open Office (above, I ran 70 instances of java jars to watch swap management). UTubes are pretty user friendly. I test with some Vanguard webcasts that tend to stall midway through without the right setup.
Posted: Fri 25 Jan 2013, 02:49
by RetroTechGuy
jpeps wrote:You can get rid of the plugin container.
BTW, I missed this. What does that mean?
I'm running FF as a .sfs (which helped my frugal save file space a lot).
Posted: Fri 25 Jan 2013, 02:50
by RetroTechGuy
rjbrewer wrote:RetroTechGuy wrote:
Yeah, I'm running an Athlon 2200. But when the RAM gets full, she's "toast"...
Running a pc with Athlon 2200, 1Gb ram, youtube vids crash every time with or without swap.
My old Inspiron 700m (1.6Ghz) 1Gb ram, runs great;
no swap needed.
I use Htop to watch ram and cpu usage.
Is it possible that you have a bad RAM stick? Perhaps when FF (and Youtube) try to consume all your memory, you hit the bad spot and it pukes. Otherwise you don't run into it...
Posted: Fri 25 Jan 2013, 02:59
by jpeps
RetroTechGuy wrote:jpeps wrote:You can get rid of the plugin container.
BTW, I missed this. What does that mean?
I'm running FF as a .sfs (which helped my frugal save file space a lot).
Go into about:config, search for "ipc" and disable the plugins. They're resource hogs. I'm guessing the SFS saves your settings in the .mozilla folder. I run a hard copy from my HD with a /root link
Posted: Fri 25 Jan 2013, 20:19
by RetroTechGuy
jpeps wrote:RetroTechGuy wrote:jpeps wrote:You can get rid of the plugin container.
BTW, I missed this. What does that mean?
I'm running FF as a .sfs (which helped my frugal save file space a lot).
Go into about:config, search for "ipc" and disable the plugins. They're resource hogs. I'm guessing the SFS saves your settings in the .mozilla folder. I run a hard copy from my HD with a /root link
Thanks, I just turned them off. We'll see if that helps.
Yes, the SFS still saves junk in .mozilla, but it doesn't store the FF code in the save file (first time I'd had 3 green bars in a long time) -- and I also moved that out into /root/home/puppy528/ (where I store all my 5.28 junk).
I run all frugals -- and just recently got around to dumping all of the 4.31 saves, and the 5.20 saves...