Slacko64 - 64 bit Puppy - 6 Feb 2014

[Ted Dog]

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jso ... 12918.html

Our families where those forced to leave in 1250 actually it was eariler up the hang on types lasted unt then our family left around 50 years before late 1190s

[Ted Dog]

ops posted in wrote topic I do not know how it ended up here.. It was reply to other thread.. strange... ingnore it was for an off topic thread

[Ted Dog]

But to be on topic it is good you have a 64 bit machine and Grub4Dos. Since G4D will call a 64bit bootloader to load windows then the workaround idea for it to call a 64 bit GRUB should work fine. But the call for kernel and initrd needs to be made after Grub4Dos hands off boot to a 64bit compiled GRUB.. Does that sound logical to you.. You could still load 32bit linuxes fine from Grub4Dos but 64bit needs a different extra step and its own grub.lst

[Jades]

TBH I didn't even know that the Pentium D is a 64-Bit CPU until relatively recently, the XP install is 32-Bit as have been all of the other versions of Puppy I have used. Slacko64 is the very first 64-bit Linux I've tried using and I only decided to do that after getting Win 7 Pro 64-bit running.

With regard to bootloaders, the main reason I'm using Grub4Dos is because I like the Grub4Dos Config util that Shinobar has written and also it seemed to work fine on the K6-2 500 setup. This is the first time I've encountered major problems, but it's also the first time I've tried to get a 64-bit Full running. I've only been using a bootloader on the Pentium D since I put Win 7 on it, previous Puppy use on that machine being exclusively via LiveCD setups.

Thinking about it, Grub4Dos Config running on a 32-Bit Puppy would automatically install a 32-Bit loader because that's the environment it finds itself running in...

Suggestions for alternative bootloaders are of course welcome, but I should point out that, while I'm happy enough tweaking the layout for the Linux stuff, the first two partitions have to stay as they are as Win 7 is the main OS for that machine. This is for an assortment of reasons, not least of which is that I'm not the only one using it.

[Edit: fixed typos]

[James C]

For whatever it's worth I've got two boxes multi-booting 64 bit Windows 7 Ultimate with both 32 and 64 bit Puppy and other Linux versions.I use good old Legacy grub (stage 1 in the MBR and stage 2 on sda3 on both boxes). sda1 and 2 are Windows 7 partitions while sda3 is for Puppy frugals and grub stage 2.Remainder of both drives are divided extended partitions.

Have had no trouble booting anything,either 32 bit or 64 bit.

I've got a few minutes so I'll do a quick full install of Slacko64 just as a test.

[James C]

The results are....... total failure.Kernel panic after kernel panic.

Tried Legacy Grub,Grub4dos........ even used the latest Fatdog to install Grub .....all kernel panics.

No problem with frugal installs....posting from Slacko64 frugal now.

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title Puppy Slacko 5.6  Frugal on sda3
rootnoverify (hd0,2)
kernel /pup01/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd pdev1=sda3 pfix=fsck psubdir=pup01
initrd /pup01/initrd.gz

title Puppy Slacko64 5.8.7 frugal in sda3 
rootnoverify (hd0,2)
kernel /pup02/vmlinuz pmedia=atahd pdev1=sda3 pfix=fsck nouveau.noaccel=1 psubdir=pup02
initrd /pup02/initrd.gz
#
title Windows 7 Ultimate on (hd0,0)
root (hd0,0)
chainloader +1

title PCLOS Mate 2013
root (hd0,5)
chainloader +1
#
title Mepis 12 on (hd0,6)
root (hd0,6)
kernel /boot/grub/i386-pc/core.img

I really love testing......

[James C]

Luckily there's no problem with frugal installs....Grub installed with Slacko 5.6 on both boxes.

Just reformatted both drives a few weeks ago so I'm starting fresh.

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title Puppy Slacko 5.6.5.2 Frugal on sda3
rootnoverify (hd0,2)
kernel /pup01/vmlinuz pfix=fsck pdev1=sda3 pmedia=atahd nouveau.noaccel=1
initrd /pup01/initrd.gz

title Puppy Slacko64 5.8.7 Frugal on sda3
rootnoverify (hd0,2)
kernel /pup02/vmlinuz pfix=fsck pdev1=sda3 pmedia=atahd nouveau.noaccel=1
initrd /pup02/initrd.gz

title Puppy Slacko 5.6.5.6 Frugal on sda3
rootnoverify (hd0,2)
kernel /pup03/vmlinuz pfix=fsck pdev1=sda3 pmedia=atahd psubdir=pup03
initrd /pup03/initrd.gz

title Puppy Slacko64 5.8.8 Frugal on sda3
rootnoverify (hd0,2)
kernel /pup04/vmlinuz pfix=fsck pdev1=sda3 pmedia=atahd psubdir=pup04 nouveau.noaccel=1
initrd /pup04/initrd.gz

title Fatdog64
root (hd0,2)
kernel /vmlinuz nouveau.noaccel=1
initrd /initrd

title Lighthouse64 Linux 602 frugal in sda3
rootnoverify (hd0,2)
kernel /pup11/vmlinuz pfix=fsck pdev1=sda3 pmedia=atahd psubdir=pup11 nouveau.noaccel=1
initrd /pup11/initrd.xz

title Puppy Raring 3.9.9.2 frugal in sda6
rootnoverify (hd0,5)
kernel /pup10/vmlinuz pfix=fsck pdev1=sda6 pmedia=atahd psubdir=pup10 nouveau.noaccel=1
initrd /pup10/initrd.gz
#
title Windows on (hd0,1)
root (hd0,0)
chainloader +1

[Jades]

With time tonight now short, I thank James C for his input - both on this particular issue, as well as the numerous other cases where I have been testing Puppy and had wondered whether it really was just me who was encountering a problem.

[James C]

Slacko64 5.8.8 live w/ save on usb flash on another old box.....no hdd so I can't try any installs.Working well though.

# report-video
Report Video 1.3 - Tue 25 Feb 2014 on Slacko64 Puppy 5.8.8 - Linux 3.13.1 x86_64

Chip description:
5.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS480 [Radeon Xpress 200 Series]
oem: ATI RADEON Xpress 200G Series

X Server: Xorg Driver used: radeon

X.Org version: 1.12.4
dimensions: 1024x768 pixels (270x203 millimeters)
depth of root window: 24 planes


...the above also recorded in /tmp/root/ as report-video,
and archived with xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log as report-video-full.gz
# glxgears
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
354 frames in 5.0 seconds = 70.711 FPS
375 frames in 5.0 seconds = 74.826 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.005 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.026 FPS
376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.026 FPS


-Computer-
Processor : AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 3400+
Memory : 958MB (389MB used)
Machine Type : Physical machine
Operating System : Slacko64 Puppy - 5.8.8
User Name : root (root)
Date/Time : Tue 25 Feb 2014 05:40:01 PM CST
-Display-
Resolution : 1024x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Gallium 0.4 on ATI RS480
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : ATIIXP - ATI IXP
-Input Devices-
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
ImPS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse
-Printers (CUPS)-
CUPS-PDF : <i>Default</i>
-SCSI Disks-
HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8483B
Kingston DataTraveler 2.0

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# free
             total         used         free       shared      buffers
Mem:        958672       884760        73912            0        66756
-/+ buffers:             818004       140668
Swap:            0            0            0
# 

[Ted Dog]

THERE DOES look like a sbort coming with slaco both 32 and 64 bit seem to suffer same issue with Grub4Dos there is same error on another thread.

[gcmartin]

Hi @James C

Don't know if this will help via GRUB, but try Chainload of your FULL Slacko64 partition.

Let us know

[Jades]

OK, I've set up a Frugal install of 5.8.8 on the Pentium D, using Universal Installer and having booted into the LiveCD install. Installed to a sub directory on the same partition that I'm trying to get the Full working on (sda5, see my earlier post). Copied and pasted the recommended text that was suggested by PUI into the existing menu.lst on sda1.

Been through a number of boots, and am typing this on it right now. Working fine, so it's just the Full that won't boot. This seems to go along with James C's earlier tests on a similar partition layout to mine.

[bigpup]

Slacko64 5.8.8
Live CD first boot.
New Netgear WNA1100 USB wireless adapter
Atheros AR9271

This Wireless adapter was not detected and manually loading the driver did not work.

Had the same problem trying to use it with Lupusuper-5.2.8.6-k3.0.25-2131124, but a fix was found.

The Linux driver is ath9k_htc for USB.

The problem seems to be that the name of the firmware files changed at some point.

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Older firmware map:

AR9271 - ar9271.fw
AR7010 - ar7010.fw or ar7010_1_1.fw

Newer firmware map:

AR9271 - htc_9271.fw
AR7010 - htc_7010.fw

A pet was made to correct this for Lupusuper.
I installed this pet in Slacko64 5.8.8.
It worked.
This wireless USB adapter now works with no problem. Now detected at bootup. Wireless setup works with no problem.

The problem and firmware pet fix is posted here:
http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 834#739834

[01micko]

Thanks bigpup

That firmware is in there but in the wrong spot. Fixed at woof level. In a few days I'll bring out a 32 bit slacko with the change.. can you give that a test with that wireless device please. Tia.

[gcmartin]

Has anyone had any corruption issues with HDD data partitions accessed by Slacko64?

Curious.

[LateAdopter]

I did post about a minor FAT32 filesystem problem earlier, on alpha 1, and alpha 2 is the same. But they are ALPHA!

Slacko64 leaves the partition in a state that win2k complains about, and runs the disk check on startup, but finds no problem.

I've not noticed any problem with data corruption, but I haven't mounted any other partitions with Slacko64.

[gcmartin]

Thanks. I had noticed couple problems last month and have not booted since.

[Ted Dog]

Thanks. I had noticed couple problems last month and have not booted since.

Same here unusable releases. Please start a new thread if you fixed the blackscreen only interface... to minimalist for me..
I have avoided slacko for a while hope it is not going to be a trend.

[James C]

Hi @James C

Don't know if this will help via GRUB, but try Chainload of your FULL Slacko64 partition.

Let us know

Yes, tried chainloading as well.... still failed.

[James C]

Has anyone had any corruption issues with HDD data partitions accessed by Slacko64?

Curious.

Haven't noticed any problems yet...... with the disclaimer that I only occasionally access any NTFS/FAT partitions....no installs or savefiles on anything other then ext3.