(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

Posted: **Thu 03 Mar 2011, 11:21**

oui wrote:fatdog64 works great!

only sorry about the unusual mixture of standard programs compared with puppy...

with fatdog64 I have the same problem i have with puppy5.2. When I reboot does not start the process of creating the save file.
So every time I reboot is the first time.

Posted: **Sat 05 Mar 2011, 06:00**

I've tried them all on this MSI Wind and without a doubt the best Puppy for me is Puppeee. Everything is good now

Posted: **Sat 05 Mar 2011, 11:12**

eeepuppy wrote:
oui wrote:fatdog64 works great!

only sorry about the unusual mixture of standard programs compared with puppy...
with fatdog64 I have the same problem i have with puppy5.2. When I reboot does not start the process of creating the save file.
So every time I reboot is the first time.

It isn't the best way, but I solved the problem in this way:
I booted from cd on a desktop Puppy5.2 and I created a lupusave file with nothing.
I restarted the desktop and I copied the newly created file on a pendrive.
I inserted the pendrive in the laptop and I started Puppy 5.2.
Puppy5.2 recognized the lupusave file and uploaded it, so I completed the quick start Puppy. The first time you reboot, it seems that it is not done correctly the closure procedure. On the next reboot, the changes were saved and then took over the classic procedure at the end of the session.
I solved and I hope I have helped others to solve a problem, however, shows a bug of Puppy5.2 at least in the configuration I mentioned.

Posted: **Sun 06 Mar 2011, 20:25**

racepres wrote:
theZoid wrote: Thanks....I tried that and it said "no synaptics touchpad detected"; several times. I'm looking for a more direct way to disable it as it's driving me crazy
Open/Lift the keyboard, and unplug the darn thing... I have done it... it is direct and it does work..
RP

On the MSI U100 Netbook, fn-F3 disables the touchpad

Now I need a script to do this everytime I boot up

Posted: **Mon 07 Mar 2011, 15:19**

I thought would add my old lappy to the thread...

Samsung V25 (A christmas gift in 2002, the XP Home gave of the ghost a couple of years ago.)
Pentium 4 2.8GHz, 1GB ram
Intel 82845G.GL Brookdale Graphics Chip
Intel Audio
Belkin 7010 PMCIA Wireless (RT2500 driver)
2XUSB1.0

This was a very well build laptop which was top of the line at the time. The XP installation finally got so slow it was unusable. I first tried Linux on it with live CD's in 2006, and all ran reasonably well.
However, ever since April 2010 (or the introduction of the KMS into the kernel), the graphics chip has work very, very few of the newer kernels, and even when it does work, it still intermitently crashes. On most distros with 2.6.29 or later, it just will not run stably.

I found that PCLinux)S 2010 seems to be the most stable, though it also crashes, but much less frequently. I just did a frugal install of Lupu 5.2, and it too has difficulty with this graphics chip. It DOES boot to a desktop with i915.modeset=0 as a kernel parameter, but will fail to boot to a desktop about 2 out of five boots.

However, when it does boot to a desktop, EVERYTHING works beautifully and little or no configuration is necessary.

So, for all of those laptop owners with this chipset, my condolences. It looks like it may some time soon just require that this old computer be put out to pasture. But for now, there seems to be plenty of life left in her.

Bob[/b]

Posted: **Tue 08 Mar 2011, 00:19**

I found this tool which works for the volume keys on my compaq. There are several keyboards to choose from. Does not create any entries using kdepup in the menu- you have to do that manually but there seems to be one in the applications folder. I will be trying it out on other puppies and posting back.
The debian pkg puts a entry in the system folder but you need to put a link to /usr/bin/keytouchd in the startup folder so it starts up automatically. In the /usr/bin folder you will find keytouch-keyboard-bin which allows you to select the keyboard model. I just used keytouch in 5.2.2rc

http://keytouch.sourceforge.net/dl-keytouch.php

Posted: **Fri 08 Apr 2011, 07:44**

Fujitsu Lifebook S752 4 Gb RAM (Win 7 Pro as delivered) 2012

Runs every puppy tried (lots) -Carolina, Pemasu's Upups, Waries currently run as live OS (why not?).
Everything works incl Chrome, and all wifi, sync, and output functions.
Win7 Pro not disturbed, and works when needed.

Old Fuji (see below) still reliable after decade+ daily grind, so expecting this 2012 one to be long-lived also? Good keyboards & screens on Fuji's.

Fujitsu Lifebook S6210 1 Gb RAM (no OS except PL in recent years)
-first choice is Lupu 5.2.8+updates run as Live OS
No issues. Wireless and ethernet connections, sound, pcmcia functions (several incl flash disk use) all worked rotb (right off the bat).
Wireless even when travelling is painless (if available).
No loading or running glitches.
Chrome browser (latest puppy versions) - google apps, and g-syncing, g-drive, dropbox all work. LibreOffice reliable.

But no added bling, or swapping of window-managers etc - thus keeping it simple and useful, for these older machines (IMHO)
which really means live-CD and frugal installs
don't need complex OS choices or GRUB
and, as the gurus advise, always pfix=ram with any new version.

Swap file essential, or at least very useful for best performance.

------------------------------------------------

Compaq Armada E500 256 RAM
Compaq Armada M700 256

Wary may be best in long run but
Classic 214X -top10 is reliable for solid use on these Compaq laptops from last century, even when only 128 RAM.

live-CD and frugal installs, with swap file
run with no problems on these 10 year old laptops
with various added RAM - see above (recommend get min 256 RAM)
and do keep it simple and basic if needing a workhorse
with no added bling, or swapping of window-managers etc
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No more testing on old Compaqs will be done
(not necessary with above puppies being good enough)

Posted: **Sat 09 Apr 2011, 20:47**

I have a Compaq Presario F756NR Notebook. It's only a few years old, but it has no HDD and a broken optical drive. Puppy 5.25 runs very smoothly off of a 2GB flash drive. Everything hardware-wise seems to work fine, except for the special fn keys (volume, media buttons, etc). Although the brightness keys work, which is interesting.

I haven't tried the solution posted above for these buttons, but I really don't feel the need to.

Anyway... the nVidia card, wireless card, touchpad driver, and all of that jazz were detected beautifully.

Posted: **Mon 11 Apr 2011, 18:42**

Thinkpad T43
Puppy 4.3.2 v3 (old version)
1024x768 LCD radeon

Works for all common things tested otb

Uncommon things not working:

Wine versions of graphics intensive apps, like CAD, and wine versions of audio intensive apps like Visual Analyzer.

These problems are probably primarily due to hardware drivers for the economy Thinkpad Radeon board in this particular T43. Different T43's came with different graphics boards.

Don't know about the audio. But have never had Visual Analyzer detect the audio input or output in any puppy/wine/computer, though the program opens nicely, and says it runs in wine. So maybe not a Thinkpad problem.

(4.3.2 Operating system note: reportedly VESA is broken and devx is not currently available in this OS version. Despite good reliability experienced on the T43 above, I don't recommend any version of 4.3.2 at this time due to defacto abandonment of software version completion.)

I'm considering changing OS, and if I do, I'll report what the T43 runs on with the new OS.

Edit:

Sorry, forgot, the laptop sleep functions generally do not work correctly with this and some earlier Thinkpads I've owned using Puppy.

For instance, closing the case while running does nothing.

Posted: **Thu 09 Jun 2011, 07:08**

Here's what I have...

ASUS eeePC 701SD
4GB internal flash disk; 512 RAM
Puppeee 4.4 frugal installed onto a 256MB SD card.
Everything runs well.

COMPAQ Armada M300
Intel 600 MHz; 320 RAM; 256 SWAP; SMC2632Wv2 wireless PC Card
Wary 5.1.2 frugal installed
Everything runs well

Compaq Presario V3000
Intel Core Duo 1.83MHZ; 2G RAM
Wary 5.1.2 frugal installed
Everything runs well

SONY Vaio PCG 691P
Intel 1.75 MHz, 1.5G RAM, 1G SWAP
Wary 5.1.2 frugal installed
Everything runs well

ACER Travelmate 3002WTCi
Centrino 1,73 GHz; 512 RAM; 256 SWAP; 1280x800 WXGA
Wary 5.1.2 frugal installed
Everything runs well on 1024x768
Booting process selects 1280x800 but systems hangs after a while.
Still looking for a distro that accepts 1280x800 Intel Graphics Media Accelerator 900

Posted: **Thu 09 Jun 2011, 10:35**

Wary 5.1.2 frugal installed ...

////

Wary has the best sound of any Puppy.

I adjusted the sound in PMusic under >> File>>> Retrovol
and the Mixer was also there.

//////

Well worth a look for Acer.

WPA2-PSK (Wi-Fi Protected Access 2 with Pre-Shared Key)

working great on

Acer Aspire 3620

Acer Aspire 4710Z

Acer Netbook eMachines eM350-21G16i .

Chris.

Posted: **Sun 12 Jun 2011, 10:31**

Hi All,

There is a new version of the Gecko Edubook out, with a new processor. It uses an Xcore86+ 1GHz processor; and there is an option to install 1 GB of RAM, too, which I have.

Here is a bit of the announcement dated 2011-05-16 by Michael Barnes of Norhtec:

"The new Xcore86+ is 70% faster than the previous Xcore86 Device on Chip yet consumes the same power as the original Xcore86. The new CPU uses 32bit RAM instead of 16bit RAM that allows the CPU to do more work per clock cycle. The Xcore86+ is faster than the AMD LX800, yet it uses less power, is less expensive and requires fewer components to build a device."

There are more details here: http://www.deviceonchip.com/

Anyway, I bought the new Edubook, with the intention of using Puppy as the OS. Puppy 5.2 booted from a USB flash drive, but xorg did not work so I had no GUI to work with. I then tried Wary 5.1.2 and the GUI worked fine "out of the box", but using Xvesa. I have a Belkin Wifi dongle (model F6D4050 v1) which also worked fine the first time.

On the other hand, I haven't been able to get any kind of video to work, nor even any of several video players I installed to open. Pmusic audio player opens but doesn't work.

Makropo

Posted: **Sun 12 Jun 2011, 16:12**

Hi Makropo

I don't know if the new Edubook uses the same video, but the latest for the previous is here

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 703#413703

On the previous one also, pupeee 4.2, turbopup, & puppy 4..31 all load OK
- well, to a desktop

Aitch

Posted: **Mon 13 Jun 2011, 09:45**

Got these tips on battery life from Jesse Smith and Distrowatch. Do they work on Puppy?
http://puppylinux.org/wikka/Laptop

Posted: **Mon 13 Jun 2011, 21:33**

Powertop gives estimation of laptop battery usage. And also many tips howto reduce it. Compiled in Snow Puppy.

Posted: **Thu 04 Aug 2011, 22:49**

pemasu wrote:
My laptop-001.pet works fine with this laptop and enables laptop buttons ok. Also I have acpi_call.ko for some kernels to shutdown ATI graphics with test_off.sh script placed on /root/Startup. If somebody needs those addons with this laptop, I can give spesific info.

Hi pemasu, I want to thank you for this .pet .. and as someone who hasn't yet tackled kernel modules/compiling, I'd be interested in what can be done to get all my function buttons working on this Dell D600 laptop (no hurry though, as I should really do some exhaustive Duckduckgo.com-ing for what's out there before hitting up humans in a forum..)

I forget which derivative of puppy it was, but when someone released their .iso and I dl'd for a spin, I was rather taken aback at how cumbersome Frisbee seemed-- immediately going off to turn on my wifi and try hooking up a network without notifying/asking-- worst thing being that the whole system would basically hang in the meantime, so that I couldn't even fire up a terminal and do "kill -9 `pidof frisbee`" or such. I'm always on a laptop, and such blasting out of my MAC address in potentially hostile territory is a dealbreaker for me. So I recall manually plowing through to strip out everything frisbee.. I'm thinking it was Lighthouse Pup, actually.. so imagine my dismay upon finding that this otherwise-nifty laptop001.pet had this cruddy (IMO) frisbee inside.
It has enabled me to suspend my Dell D600, which I hadn't been able to do in Puppy previously (I had even formatted a partition and installed Mandriva to have something full-featured, which was a cool distro, until I broke it.. long story..) and with battery life at a premium, it's spendid I must say. So I've stripped all the Frisbee out of this .pet for my own use-- 1st thing I install on every new Pup-- and present it here in case it is useful for someone. So small, seems it oughta ship inside the next major .iso (frisbee should NOT!) Barry's old net setup scripts work just fine still.
(Be nice, it's the first .pet I'm uploading-- surely it could use some touching up, so let me know. Thanks.)

The original laptop001.pet was I think 1st posted here: http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 993#484993

Plus, I just discovered http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... 7&start=30 which mentions at least 2 others having put out acpid functionality .pets. (Thanks for the tip pemasu!) So perhaps this post can also serve to sew these related but disconnected threads together somewhat.. "more than 1 way to skin a cat"?

Posted: **Sun 18 Sep 2011, 16:21**

Acer Aspire 5534

Specs

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sh-4.1# inxi -F
Resuming in non X mode: glxinfo not found. For package install advice run: inxi --recommends
System:    Host: puppypc Kernel: 2.6.33.2 i686 (32 bit) 
           Desktop Enlightenment 0.16.999.62861 Distro: macpup Linux
Linux 2.6.33.2 [i686 arch]
Machine:   System: Acer (portable) product: Aspire 5534 version: V1.10 serial: LXPJV0200293721BAE1601 
           Mobo: Acer model: Aspire 5534 version: V1.10 serial: LXPJV0200293721BAE1601
           Bios: Acer version: V1.10 date: 08/26/2009
CPU:       Dual core AMD Athlon X2 L310 (-MCP-) cache: 1024 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 svm) 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 1197.032 MHz 2: 1197.032 MHz
Graphics:  Card: ATI RS780M/RS780MN [Radeon HD 3200 Graphics] 
           X.org: 1.7.6 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: vesa) tty size: 80x24 Advanced Data: N/A for root 
Audio:     Card: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) driver: HDA Intel Sound: ALSA ver: 1.0.21
Network:   Card-1: Atheros AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) driver: ath9k 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filtered>
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: down speed: 10 Mbps duplex: half mac: <filtered>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 258.1GB (0.7% used) 1: /dev/sda TOSHIBA_MK2555GS 250.1GB 
           2: /dev/sdb SanDisk_Cruzer 4.1GB 3: /dev/sdc Multi 4.0GB 
Partition: ID: / size: 1.8G used: 56M (4%) fs: rootfs 
Sensors:   Error: You do not have the sensors app installed.
Info:      Processes: 97 Uptime: 1:24 Memory: 236.2/3547.1MB Runlevel: 5 Client: Shell inxi: 1.7.23 
sh-4.1# cat /etc/issue
macpup Linux
Linux 2.6.33.2 [i686 arch]
sh-4.1# cat /etc/puppyversion
528

Tap on touchpad works.
Wifi Works.
Sound works including Microphone (after alsa mixer adjustements)
Good screen resolution

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sh-4.1# xrandr
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1366 x 768, maximum 1366 x 1366
LVDS connected 1366x768+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 345mm x 194mm
   1366x768       60.0*+
   1280x720       59.9  
   1152x768       59.8  
   1024x768       59.9  
   800x600        59.9  
   640x480        59.4  
VGA-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)

Running off of Pendrive with save file. I used Well Minded search for this model number of Acer Aspire Laptop. No hits. So I figured I'd at least post this one. Wifes Laptop, Not mine.

Edit 6_January_2012 : It's mine now and runs Racy 5.2.2 off of Pendrive just fine and shows all 4 gig of ram , I gave her a Compaq Black 15.6" CQ57-319qm for Christmas present.

Edit: June 2, 2012

I consider those that recommend "well minded search" to be
the same as someone who says "RTFM".

Just Google: aspire 5534 puppy linux

Just did that rjbrewer . The only hits I saw were mine.

Here is Racy 5.2 running on same laptop

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# inxi -z -F
System:    Host: puppypc2751 Kernel: 3.0.7 i686 (32 bit) 
           Desktop: JWM sn-505 Distro: Racy Puppy Linux
Linux 3.0.7 [i686 arch]
Machine:   System: Acer (portable) product: Aspire 5534 version: V1.10
           Mobo: Acer model: Aspire 5534 version: V1.10 Bios: Acer version: V1.10 date: 08/26/2009
CPU:       Dual core (AMD Athlon X2 L310,1196.772,512 KB,fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp lm 3dnowext 3dnow extd_apicid pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy 3dnowprefetch lbrv,2394.27,amd) (-MCP-) cache: unknown  flags: (-) 
           Clock Speeds: 1: 1196.772 MHz 2: 1196.772 MHz
Graphics:  Card: ATI RS780M/RS780MN [Radeon HD 3200 Graphics] 
           X.org: 1.11.0 drivers: ati,radeon (unloaded: vesa) tty size: 79x23 Advanced Data: N/A for root 
Audio:     Card: ATI SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) driver: HDA Intel Sound: ALSA ver: 1.0.24
Network:   Card-1: Atheros AR928X Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express) driver: ath9k 
           IF: wlan0 state: up mac: <filter>
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller driver: r8169 
           IF: eth0 state: down mac: <filter>
Drives:    HDD Total Size: (254.1GB,1.3% used) () 1: id: /dev/sda model: TOSHIBA_MK2555GS size: 250.1GB 
           2: id: /dev/sdb model: SanDisk_Cruzer size: 4.1GB 
Partition: 
RAID:      No RAID devices detected - /proc/mdstat and md_mod kernel raid module present
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 38.0C mobo: 0.0C 
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A 
Info:      Processes: 89 Uptime: 2 min Memory: 83.1/3796.1MB Client: Shell inxi: 1.8.5 
sh-3.00# glxgears
720 frames in 5.0 seconds = 143.901 FPS
626 frames in 5.0 seconds = 125.174 FPS
700 frames in 5.0 seconds = 139.815 FPS

Running TOR browser AND Hulu Desktop also on this install to Sandisk Cruzer 4 gig Pendrive frugal install with personal save file ,with a backup personal save file on Windows 7 NTFS partition also.

Posted: **Sun 18 Sep 2011, 16:40**

rokytnji wrote:
Running off of Pendrive with save file. I used Well Minded search for this model number of Acer Aspire Laptop. No hits. So I figured I'd at least post this one. Wifes Laptop, Not mine.

I consider those that recommend "well minded search" to be
the same as someone who says "RTFM".

Just Google: aspire 5534 puppy linux

Posted: **Sat 01 Oct 2011, 19:32**

rjbrewer Sure you can be right but I think it can be how one say it too.

My experience of RTFM is that them would say that even if them new the answer and it would take less time to give it and them say it on principle.

While here in the forum many refer to it when them know one can find one or two threads but don't remember what exact search to use and then them realize that the OP can also make use of it so them kindly suggest that the OP look first and get back if these threads was not enough to solve it.

Attitude can differ much. Make use of well minded can be a friendly suggestion while RTFM can be very mean spirited and condescending.

Posted: **Sun 02 Oct 2011, 02:00**

I regularly use an IBM Thinkpad T43 with Radeon graphics, and the only way I have found to get hardware acceleration is to run MU's NewYearsPuppy.

http://www.murga-linux.com/puppy/viewto ... &start=434

That puplet alone allows this computer to run windows CAD, CAM and other graphics intensive programs in WINE without crashing, including Google Sketchup.

Otherwise I have used extensively and liked Puppy 4.3.2 v3 Test (the first 4.3.2) But because the advanced graphics features did not work there, I gave it up.

Thanks to MU, for that, and much else, even though no longer here on the forum.

(old)Puppy Linux Discussion Forum

Puppy On Laptops

Puppy 5.2 don't create the lupusave file

Re: Puppy 5.2 don't create the lupusave file

keyTouch

Fujitsu Lifebooks and ancient Compaq laptops

eeePC 701SD; Armada M300; Travelmate 3002WTCi

Gecko Edubook Xcore86+

laptop001x.pet = laptop001 - Frisbee

Acer Aspire 5534

Re: Acer Aspire 5534

Thinkpad T43 Radeon Graphics & NewYearsPuppy