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Posted: Thu 05 Mar 2009, 10:37
by Lobster
esmourguit wrote:Bonjour,
@ WhoDo,
Is it possible to communicate the list of scripts that have been modified (or added) from version 4.1.2 and 4.20.
some of that info is here:
http://puppylinux.org/wiki/archives/old ... ease-notes

Posted: Thu 05 Mar 2009, 12:46
by esmourguit
Bonjour,
Thank you Lobster. I'll give a look.
Cordialement ;)

Impress presentation .odp

Posted: Thu 05 Mar 2009, 14:37
by Lobster
enclosed is a presentation in OpenOffice .odp format (impress)
for Puppy 4.2

If you modify or enhance let us know
important - rename enclosed file to 42.odp (42.zip allows posting here)

Posted: Sun 08 Mar 2009, 21:20
by Pizzasgood
To get an idea of what has changed, you could mount both of the pup_xxx.sfs files and get diff to tell you about them. For example, assuming you're running one version (but not a Full-install) and have the pup_xxx.sfs file of the other mounted at /mnt/data, you could do this:

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diff -r -q /initrd/pup_ro2/ /mnt/data/
That tells you about any files missing from either of them, in addition to any that have changed.


Alternately, you could use md5sum to find any different files.

Run this in the new version of Puppy:

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md5sum /usr/sbin/* > /root/checksums
Move the '/root/checksums' file it creates to somewhere on the harddrive where you can get to it from another version of Puppy.

Boot the old version of Puppy.
Mount the drive with the checksums file. I'm assuming that this will place the file at /mnt/home/checksums, so just adjust my example to fit your situation.
Run this command:

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md5sum -c /mnt/home/checksums | grep 'FAILED'
That won't notify you of any files in the old version missing from the new one, but it will tell you about any modified files and any files added in the new one and missing in the old one.

Posted: Tue 10 Mar 2009, 03:59
by panzerpuppy
FFmpeg 0.5 has been released (finally!)
The latest version of FFmpeg adds support for tons of new audio/video formats including QCELP/PureVoice speech, floating point PCM, Nellymoser ASAO , Electronic Arts TGQ, Speex via libspeex, MXF muxer, E-AC-3, and RealVideo 3.0 and 4.0, MLP/TrueHD, Flash Screen Video, Monkey's Audio and much more.

FFmpeg 0.5 has cleaner code, ffserver fixes, new muxers / demuxers, and various other features.
FFmpeg site wrote:* Significant work to support at least decoding of all widespread mainstream proprietary codecs, such as:
ALAC
Flash Screen Video
WMAv2 decoder fixed
Atrac3
MLP/TrueHD
On2 VP3 improvements and VP5/VP6 support
RealAudio Cooker and fixes for 14.4 and 28.8
RealVideo RV30/40
WMV3/WMV9/VC-1 and IntraX8 frame support for WMV2/VC-1

* Broad coverage of widespread non-proprietary codecs, including:
DNxHD
DVCPRO50 (a.k.a. DV50)
Floating point PCM
GSM-MS
Theora
Vorbis
AAC with ADTS support and >2x the speed of FAAD! (no HE AAC support yet)
AC-3 that is faster than liba52 in 5.1, up to 2x faster in stereo and also supports E-AC-3! Hence liba52 is now obsolete.
DCA
DVCPRO HD (a.k.a. DV100)
H.264 PAFF and CQM support, plus slice-based multithreaded decoding
Monkey's Audio
MPEG-2 video support for intra VLC and 4:2:2
Musepack
QCELP
Shorten
True Audio (TTA)
Wavpack including hybrid mode support

* Newly supported container formats:
GXF
MXF
NullSoft Video (NSV)
iPhone/iPod compatibility for MP4/MOV
Matroska
NUT
Ogg (FLAC, Theora and Vorbis only)
ShockWave Flash (SWF)
libavdevice

* ffserver is working again.

* cleaner, more consistent code

* an all new metadata API

and so much more!
Source:

http://www.ffmpeg.org/releases/ffmpeg-0.5.tar.bz2

MD5sum: be8503f15c3b81ba00eb8379ca8dcf33

Puppy 4.2 + the latest FFmpeg = awesomeness :)

Posted: Tue 10 Mar 2009, 07:17
by WhoDo
panzerpuppy wrote:Puppy 4.2 + the latest FFmpeg = awesomeness :)
No doubt, but "Where do you get it"? seems a relevant question. :P

Posted: Tue 10 Mar 2009, 10:14
by capoverde
One very minor issue, which makes me feel like a pedantic English language teacher :oops: : in some dialogs there's the wording "take affect" -- should be "take effect". See here:

http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/affect.html

Posted: Tue 10 Mar 2009, 13:23
by WhoDo
capoverde wrote:One very minor issue, which makes me feel like a pedantic English language teacher :oops: : in some dialogs there's the wording "take affect" -- should be "take effect".
I'm a great stickler for correct use of the language. After all, English is difficult enough without the native speakers changing the rules all the time. I know it's a "living" language but I'd prefer it lived by the rules! :P

If you can identify the precise dialog's I'll try to fix them.

Posted: Tue 10 Mar 2009, 16:06
by Aitch

Posted: Tue 10 Mar 2009, 17:12
by panzerpuppy
WhoDo wrote: No doubt, but "Where do you get it"? seems a relevant question. :P
Source:

http://www.ffmpeg.org/releases/ffmpeg-0.5.tar.bz2

MD5sum: be8503f15c3b81ba00eb8379ca8dcf33

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 12:10
by tempestuous
capoverde wrote:in some dialogs there's the wording "take affect" -- should be "take effect".
Indeed. It's nice to see efforts to stop abuse of the English language.
WhoDo wrote:I'm a great stickler for correct use of the language ...
If you can identify the precise dialog's I'll try to fix them.
While we're on it, "dialog" is American English, not English. But I suppose this is the convention for IT-related terms.

More importantly, it's incorrect grammar, in most cases, to use an apostrophe before an "s" in the plural instance of a word.
Apostrophes are for the possessive instance of words, and also for abbreviations.

And please hold anyone to account on this forum for misinterpreting the phrase "should have" as "should of". The error apparently springs from the (ugly) abbreviation "should've".
This grotesque use of the English language has been committed a number of times on the forum lately ... by native English speaking members.

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 12:28
by ttuuxxx
ya I've always had that pet peeve, when your typing code and you have to type color, really these genius's who make languages up, like they couldn't hard code in 2 forms of the colour, color. It would make life more simpler.
ttuuxxx

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 12:36
by 01micko
tempestuous wrote:
capoverde wrote:in some dialogs there's the wording "take affect" -- should be "take effect".
Indeed. It's nice to see efforts to stop abuse of the English language.
WhoDo wrote:I'm a great stickler for correct use of the language ...
If you can identify the precise dialog's I'll try to fix them.
While we're on it, "dialog" is American English, not English. But I suppose this is the convention for IT-related terms.

More importantly, it's incorrect grammar, in most cases, to use an apostrophe before an "s" in the plural instance of a word.
Apostrophes are for the possessive instance of words, and also for abbreviations.

And please hold anyone to account on this forum for misinterpreting the phrase "should have" as "should of". The error apparently springs from the (ugly) abbreviation "should've".
This grotesque use of the English language has been committed a number of times on the forum lately ... by native English speaking members.
Are you an English teacher? If so, I applaud you. If not, I applaud you.

Thankyou,

Mick.

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 12:43
by ttuuxxx
Tell you the truth, I suck badly at spelling always have, Probably why I got into computers and construction, Construction you don't need spelling and computers well they come with a spell check, LOL
ttuuxxx

Posted: Wed 11 Mar 2009, 12:58
by panzerpuppy
ttuuxxx wrote:ya I've always had that pet peeve, when your typing code and you have to type color, really these genius's who make languages up, like they couldn't hard code in 2 forms of the colour, color. It would make life more simpler.
My grammar and spelling suck big time.

I've already found 3 bugs in your 'code'. Get a good debugger and clean up this mess or I'll fire you. :D

Posted: Thu 12 Mar 2009, 08:13
by capoverde
:lol: Thanks for taking the time to make some fun about language correctness... It has plunged down everywhere since the upcoming of spellchecking word processors...

Will try to locate all "un-English" files. :twisted:

* Using XVesa at 1280x1024 with Puppy 4.2RC2 on my most recent box (Celeron 2800 on Asrock775i65GV), at startup a grey bar appears at screen top and bottom (pic not "stretched") and the background seems cut in wood, no use restarting X. All icons and windows show normally.

Apparently these problems arise with the most compact backgrounds (they also take more time to be displayed, albeit badly). "Aurora australis" shows up perfectly and quickly -- and is a sure eye-catcher, let's keep it!

Had problems yesterday and today to enter the forum. Others, too?

Posted: Thu 12 Mar 2009, 08:21
by WhoDo
capoverde wrote:Had problems yesterday and today to enter the forum. Others, too?
Yep. I've PM'd John to see if he can do something about it. I would have emailed him but I've lost his email address since my old laptop crashed.

Posted: Thu 12 Mar 2009, 08:29
by Lobster
You can always use the DeepThought Chat room - I will be there till 11AM GMT

http://www.chatmaker.net/chatap/rooms/DeepThought/

Deep Thought and default wallpaper

Posted: Fri 13 Mar 2009, 03:56
by WhoDo
I've been playing around testing various wallpapers to see which ones would give us the best first impression for Puppy-4.2. I have to admit that I have two personal favourites in Zigbert's stardust and deepthought, both of which are tiny. Unfortunately, neither of them looks any good at all in 16-bit colour - they're too pixelated - and the same is true for all of the other very frugal wallpapers developed by the guys on the forum (some as small as 43 bytes!)

I don't believe that, given Puppy's focus on older hardware, we can risk our first impressions on a wallpaper that doesn't look good in 16-bit colour; hence my dilemma. Images, rather than gradient backgrounds or pixel posters, appear to be the best bet. Here are 3 such images that I'm considering. Any thoughts?

Blue-grass - 800x600 40kb

Image

Winter-wheat - 800x600 75kb

Image

Crystal-shore - 800x600 46kb

Image

Posted: Fri 13 Mar 2009, 04:36
by ttuuxxx
hey whodo you can get 7000 free wallpapers at http://www.myfreewallpapers.com/abstrac ... pers.shtml
ttuuxxx